Bogard
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Before Itachi fans flame me, i would like you to read the thread entirely please. U_U Like the title say, i believe Obito has always been stronger than Itachi even before taking the Rinnengan. I personally thought it was obvious, but i saw people thinking otherwise. It's for that reason that i wanted to create this thread to clear up some misconceptions
Misconception number1: Obito said Itachi could have killed him if he knew his secret
"Fortunately, i managed to keep a few secrets even from him... If i had not, i'd be dead right now"
Why are people missing the right now Obito said? right now = at the present situation, so Obito obviously talking about what just happened at the moment, he was talking about the amaterasu trap, it's that he thought could have killed him had Itachi knew his secret. It had no relation with a battle situation
Secondly, why people forget the if he knew my secret? The fact remain that Itachi didn't know his secret and because of that his plan failed. This is a comparable situation to what Pain said about Jiraya. If Jiraya knew his secret, he would have won, but the fact remain that Jiraya didn't know and it's for that reason he lost
Misconception number2: Obito couldn't attack Konoha because of Itachi, so Obito feared Itachi
1- For those who really believe this, i would ask you something. What makes you believe Obito even wanted to attack the leaf at that moment to begin with? He spent 7years before even meeting Itachi. Why didn't he attack the leaf during that period? And suddenly after meeting Itachi, he would want to attack the leaf, but couldn't because of his fear?
2- It's said in the manga by Itachi himself that Akatsuki needed to seal the Kyubi at last for the stability of the demonic statue. Obito's goal is to complete the moon eye plan by using the fully reformed Juubi, so for that he needed to seal the Kyubi at last. It's for that reason that attacking the leaf or obtaining the Kyubi at that moment was unnecessary. He had other plans, he was even already working on other stuffs like taking control of the Yondaime Mizukage and perfect Jinchuriki(Yagura) to make kirigakure and the Sanbi his. His plan was going well since Akatsuki on the other side could do the job of capturing all the tailed beast up to the 9tails while himself was hiding himself in the shadow and waiting
Misconception number3: Obito never tried to kill Itachi
Obito had no reason to kill Itachi and the manga made it clear, but apparently some people missed a great part of this manga. He had no reason to kill Itachi because:
- He needed Itachi alive for Sasuke when the time come and take his revenge, awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan after killing Itachi himself, and manage to manipulate him to serve his own purposes. He was always waiting Sasuke patiently because he saw greater power in him and i suppose was easier to manipulate from his point of view. It's said
Now that i think i cleared some misconceptions, i would like to ask those who believe Itachi was stronger something like this
- Why didn't Itachi never try to kill someone like Obito when he probably knew he was a danger for the world?
- Why did he wait his death to create a Amaterasu trap as a fail safe to kill Obito?
The reason for me is simple. He wanted to save the world, but knew he wasn't strong enough to make a difference had a battle between the 2 had been, but since he knew he was going to die at some point, he tried with that amaterasu trap as a fail safe. Trying is always better than doing nothing anyway. Itachi knew however that Obito would try to manipulate Sasuke and serve his purposes and it's for that reason that he absolutely had to do something about it, reason why he wanted to use Kotoamatsukami to make him obey the leaf instead, unfortunately it also failed
Misconception number1: Obito said Itachi could have killed him if he knew his secret
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"Fortunately, i managed to keep a few secrets even from him... If i had not, i'd be dead right now"
Why are people missing the right now Obito said? right now = at the present situation, so Obito obviously talking about what just happened at the moment, he was talking about the amaterasu trap, it's that he thought could have killed him had Itachi knew his secret. It had no relation with a battle situation
Secondly, why people forget the if he knew my secret? The fact remain that Itachi didn't know his secret and because of that his plan failed. This is a comparable situation to what Pain said about Jiraya. If Jiraya knew his secret, he would have won, but the fact remain that Jiraya didn't know and it's for that reason he lost
Misconception number2: Obito couldn't attack Konoha because of Itachi, so Obito feared Itachi
1- For those who really believe this, i would ask you something. What makes you believe Obito even wanted to attack the leaf at that moment to begin with? He spent 7years before even meeting Itachi. Why didn't he attack the leaf during that period? And suddenly after meeting Itachi, he would want to attack the leaf, but couldn't because of his fear?
2- It's said in the manga by Itachi himself that Akatsuki needed to seal the Kyubi at last for the stability of the demonic statue. Obito's goal is to complete the moon eye plan by using the fully reformed Juubi, so for that he needed to seal the Kyubi at last. It's for that reason that attacking the leaf or obtaining the Kyubi at that moment was unnecessary. He had other plans, he was even already working on other stuffs like taking control of the Yondaime Mizukage and perfect Jinchuriki(Yagura) to make kirigakure and the Sanbi his. His plan was going well since Akatsuki on the other side could do the job of capturing all the tailed beast up to the 9tails while himself was hiding himself in the shadow and waiting
Misconception number3: Obito never tried to kill Itachi
Obito had no reason to kill Itachi and the manga made it clear, but apparently some people missed a great part of this manga. He had no reason to kill Itachi because:
- He needed Itachi alive for Sasuke when the time come and take his revenge, awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan after killing Itachi himself, and manage to manipulate him to serve his own purposes. He was always waiting Sasuke patiently because he saw greater power in him and i suppose was easier to manipulate from his point of view. It's said
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that he was watching Sasuke's evolution and even in his databookNow that i think i cleared some misconceptions, i would like to ask those who believe Itachi was stronger something like this
- Why didn't Itachi never try to kill someone like Obito when he probably knew he was a danger for the world?
- Why did he wait his death to create a Amaterasu trap as a fail safe to kill Obito?
The reason for me is simple. He wanted to save the world, but knew he wasn't strong enough to make a difference had a battle between the 2 had been, but since he knew he was going to die at some point, he tried with that amaterasu trap as a fail safe. Trying is always better than doing nothing anyway. Itachi knew however that Obito would try to manipulate Sasuke and serve his purposes and it's for that reason that he absolutely had to do something about it, reason why he wanted to use Kotoamatsukami to make him obey the leaf instead, unfortunately it also failed
