[Misconception] Naruto can counter Tsukuyomi

[BAS3D]

That was Ephermeral, not Tsukuyomi.

You need eye contact for Tsukuyomi.

That was a simple genjutsu since that was his fake body, he can't cast Tsukuyomi with that level of chakra

I would completely agree......If Naruto wasn't a sensor. Naruto will indeed sense the chakra amassing in Itachi's eye, He has fought enough Uchiha to know when they are about to perform and Ocular jutsu, just as he did moments before Edo itachi performed Amateratsu during their fight.

But we know Itachi is smarter than Naruto and if he discovers naruto has sensing abilities before he is defeated then he could possibly bait Naruto into an opening allowing him to perform and catch him in Tsukuyomi. But it's a big gamble.

As I mentioned. Naruto is well versed in fighting doujutsu at this point. and is pretty bright when it comes to battle, So catching Naruto in genjutsu, even Tsukuyomi would be a challenge even for Itachi.

Kabuto is a much smarter when it comes to genjutsu, he trained to completely avoid it, yet Itachi still produced a successful strategy to lure in into Izanami

Wouldn't be hard for Naruto, plus he can't sense genjutsu since even with rikudo mode he didn't sense IT till Sasuke told him

 

[Sennin of Logic]

That moment when you realize that Kurama also has the ability to manipulate Naruto's time perception, and would not be hindered by the time perception of Tsukyomi.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

That was a simple genjutsu since that was his fake body, he can't cast Tsukuyomi with that level of chakra

Yes, I'm well aware of what Ephermeral is, and that he couldn't use the MS in that fight.

This thread is entitled "Naruto can't counter Tsukuyomi". I said that he can avoid eye contact, which he has already know to do/done in canon. You replied to me saying " he doesn't need eye contact", with that scan of an entirely different jutsu.

So, again, are you saying he is able to cast Tsukuyomi without eye contact?

 

[bencoby]

I see so this boards still dont lack for idiots. Naruto became immune to any for of sharingan genjutsu when he became a super perfect Jin. Add rikudou and naruto may even resist Reni genjutsu.

Also what's that fodder Itachi going to do against KCM Naruto let alone Rikudou Naruto.

 

[BAS3D]

Yes, I'm well aware of what Ephermeral is, and that he couldn't use the MS in that fight.

This thread is entitled "Naruto can't counter Tsukuyomi". I said that he can avoid eye contact, which he has already know to do/done in canon. You replied to me saying " he doesn't need eye contact", with that scan of an entirely different jutsu.

So, again, are you saying he is able to cast Tsukuyomi without eye contact?

Eye contact isn't needed, he can use his crow to cast it or physical contact

Itachi can also outsmart Naruto and lure him in, like he did to Kabuto

I see so this boards still dont lack for idiots. Naruto became immune to any for of sharingan genjutsu when he became a super perfect Jin. Add rikudou and naruto may even resist Reni genjutsu.

Also what's that fodder Itachi going to do against KCM Naruto let alone Rikudou Naruto.

That's why he was sh*tting his pants when he saw Itachi activate his MS

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[Lord Tywin]

Lol let's say he lands tsukoyomi, then what? Kurama can easily heal the damage done. You could say tsukuyomi can kill Naruto, but where are the feats? Yes it could kill a person like kakashi, who is far weaker than Naruto, mentally and physically, but at best tsukuyomi delays the inevitable, which is itachi getting shit for the result.

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

Eye contact isn't needed, he can use his crow to cast it or physical contact

1) Show me a scan of any of his crows with his MS (not Shisui's). And I do mean MS (required for Tsukuyomi), not 3T.

2) Show me a scan where it says Tsukuyomi can be done through physical contact. Please, I'd love to see it. It would be great for debates.

 

[bencoby]

Eye contact isn't needed, he can use his crow to cast it or physical contact

Itachi can also outsmart Naruto and lure him in, like he did to Kabuto




That's why he was sh*tting his pants when he saw Itachi activate his MS

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He may say so, this naruto >>>>>> that fodder Naruto itachi soloed beginning of shippuden. He already knew how to break out of it before just didn't have the chakra to do so.

However in KCM, he would overload itachi and break out.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

5 reasons Naruto beats Itachi to the f***ing ground. In fact, he probably breaks it the same way Sasuke did.

1. He breaks out of it easily since his chakra control is the best and has Kurama + 8 others.
2. Closes eyes, senses chakra/intent. Won't even get caught in Tsukuyomi
3. Naruto's will > Tsukuyomi's effect. He'll still be conscious and on his knees
4. Naruto will have recovered before Itachi after his use of MS, FACT. U_U
5. If chidori can't stab him what will Itachi do if he somehow caught Naruto under the genjutsu lol

Naruto's will + healing + chakra control > Tsukuyomi x 100

 

[Apêx1]

Yes, Tsukiyomi would one shot since Kurama cannot react that fast. Unfortunately it's not landing since Itachi cannot perceive RM Naruto. Otherwise I agree.

 

[BAS3D]

5 reasons he beats Itachi to the f***ing ground. In fact, he probably breaks it like Sasuke did.

1.RSM Naruto > Taka Sasuke
2.Close eyes, sense chakra/intent
3.Naruto's will overcomes Tsukuyomi effect.
4.Naruto's healing/recovery won't give Itachi a chance to do anything serious. Bee recovered when Sasuke was still having a breather. Naruto heals quicker than Bee and Itachi needs more recovery since he's using the jutsu on a strong opponent with his weak ass stamina. U_U
5. If chidori can't stab him what will Itachi do if Naruto is unconscious

Naruto's will + healing > Tsukuyomi x 100

Sasuke could break out because his a sharingan user plus full blooded uchiha

How can Naruto overcone psychological problems in the middle of battle?

Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi, just a standard genjutsu

Your post is completely irrelevant, Sasuke was in coma for weeks after being hit by Tsukuyomi while kakashi was out for days even though he beared a sharingan

Lol let's say he lands tsukoyomi, then what? Kurama can easily heal the damage done. You could say tsukuyomi can kill Naruto, but where are the feats? Yes it could kill a person like kakashi, who is far weaker than Naruto, mentally and physically, but at best tsukuyomi delays the inevitable, which is itachi getting shit for the result.

Since when can kurama heal psychological problems? Kurama can break Naruto out, but the damage will already be done

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Naruto couldn't survive Itachi's standard genjutsu casted by his fake body

 

[bencoby]

Yes, Tsukiyomi would one shot since Kurama cannot react that fast. Unfortunately it's not landing since Itachi cannot perceive RM Naruto. Otherwise I agree.

Killer bee says hi.

 

[Apêx1]

Killer bee says hi.

Did he counter Tsukiyomi? Nope.
Tsukiyomi sais hi.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

1) Show me a scan of any of his crows with his MS (not Shisui's). And I do mean MS (required for Tsukuyomi), not 3T.

2) Show me a scan where it says Tsukuyomi can be done through physical contact. Please, I'd love to see it. It would be great for debates.

It's there somewhere, I also remember him saying that. I think it's during the time they're chasing after Sasuke before he fights Deidara.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Did he counter Tsukiyomi? Nope.
Tsukiyomi sais hi.

He recovered before Sasuke could do anything..

 

[bencoby]

Did he counter Tsukiyomi? Nope.
Tsukiyomi sais hi.

He quickly broke out of it, so ....

 

[Magatsu Izanagi]

It's there somewhere, I also remember him saying that. I think it's during the time they're chasing after Sasuke before he fights Deidara.

No, no it isn't.

Tsukuyomi works through the eyes, and no other way.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Sasuke could break out because his a sharingan user plus full blooded uchiha

How can Naruto overcone psychological problems in the middle of battle?

Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi, just a standard genjutsu

Your post is completely irrelevant, Sasuke was in coma for weeks after being hit by Tsukuyomi while kakashi was out for days even though he beared a sharingan



Since when can kurama heal psychological problems? Kurama can break Naruto out, but the damage will already be done

Spoiler

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Naruto couldn't survive Itachi's standard genjutsu casted by his fake body

i think you missed it when Tsunade healed its side effect on kakashi and Sasuke with a touch.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Sasuke could break out because his a sharingan user plus full blooded uchiha

How can Naruto overcone psychological problems in the middle of battle?

Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi, just a standard genjutsu

Your post is completely irrelevant, Sasuke was in coma for weeks after being hit by Tsukuyomi while kakashi was out for days even though he beared a sharingan



Since when can kurama heal psychological problems? Kurama can break Naruto out, but the damage will already be done

Spoiler

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Naruto couldn't survive Itachi's standard genjutsu casted by his fake body

The full blooded Uchiha excuse is pointless. Both Itachi and Naruto have the same blood because they come from Hagoromo. Indra = Ashura remember ? He meant full blooded Uchiha as in "Uchiha Mangekyo user". Because only someone on the level of an original wielder of Mangekyo can beat him.

Sasuke's will broke Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Naruto's will is stronger than Sasuke's. His chakra control is also better. Anything genjutsu/mind-related can be broken with a strong will and Indra/Ashura level chakra control.

And Naruto isn't like Sasuke or Kakashi, he has Ashura's body, I doubt the sensation of stab wounds will do anything to him. Itachi will still be catching his breath after using his MS, Naruto will have already healed and speed blitz him. U_U

 

[Apêx1]

He recovered before Sasuke could do anything..

He quickly broke out of it, so ....

What the hell? Each Mangekyo can have one Doryoku (eye power). Itachi has Amateratsu in one eye and Tsukiyomi in the other. Sasuke has Amateratsu in one eye and Enton in the other. Tsukiyomi is not there, he doesn't have Tsukiyomi, end of story. Black background is merely how he chose for his Genjutsu to look, it doesn't imply Tsukiyomi in any way.