Misconception, Mitsuki is the moon and Boruto is the sun

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I think it's like this :-

Boruto - Sun - Good - Yang

Sarada - Crescent Moon - Good - Yin

Mitsuki - Full Moon - Evil - Chakra

Kishi did make a distinction between the Crescent Moon and the Full Moon at the closing of Part 2 but it was in this oneshot that Kishi drew a line between the two.

The reasoning for my assumption is simple.

The Sun Seal and the Crescent Moon Seal are on the side of Good : Yin and Yang and they seal away the Evil, The Full Moon, The Juubi, the manifestation of Chakra.
 
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I think it's like this :-

Boruto - Sun - Good - Yang

Sarada - Crescent Moon - Good - Yin

Mitsuki - Full Moon - Evil - Chakra

Kishi did make a distinction between the Crescent Moon and the Full Moon at the closing of Part 2 but it was in this oneshot that Kishi drew a line between the two.

The reasoning for my assumption is simple.

The Sun Seal and the Crescent Moon Seal are on the side of Good : Yin and Yang and they seal away the Evil, The Full Moon, The Juubi, the manifestation of Chakra.
Can I get the reference?
 
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Curse Mark
Itachi's eyes
Rinnegan
Rikudou Chakra

Free power ups are things that the character didn't work for to achieve. In example:

Chidori
Sharingan control
Kenjutsu
Fire Style

Are abilities that Sasuke worked hard to achieve.
Ok so you were being serious.

-> Curse Mark was the only think you could call a free powerup but it wasn't exactly a power up. He was given the seal to erase his mind so orochimaru could take over his body and it unexpectedly became a power up. That's equivalent to someone intentionally giving you poision and instead of it killing you it gave you special abiliites. Doesn't mean it was free of cost.

-> Itachi's eyes are not a free power up because Sasuke had to work to achieve that. He had to kill Itachi and exhaust his own eyes before he acquired Itachi's.

-> The Rin'negan wasn't free either. If Sasuke didn't have a near death experience as Madara then he would not have been given it by Hagoromo. You don't hear people going around saying Madara's rin'negan was a free power up. "Awakening" an eye technique isn't the same as being given an eye technique. Hagoromo gave Sasuke Indra's power, Indra never had the Rin'negan so he awakened it on his own.

-> Rikudo Chakra wasn't exactly a free powerup. Something that was entitled to you from the very moment birth can't be free because Sasuke is Indra's transmigrant which means he was destined to acquire this power. it's different than lets say Naruto who was GIVEN the 9 tails AFTER birth.
 

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-> Curse Mark was the only think you could call a free powerup but it wasn't exactly a power up. He was given the seal to erase his mind so orochimaru could take over his body and it unexpectedly became a power up. That's equivalent to someone intentionally giving you poision and instead of it killing you it gave you special abiliites. Doesn't mean it was free of cost.
A free power up is an ability that you didn't work hard to achieve, what it does to your person doesn't make it any different.

-> Itachi's eyes are not a free power up because Sasuke had to work to achieve that. He had to kill Itachi and exhaust his own eyes before he acquired Itachi's.
Itachi was already on his death bed and he was running the entire battle with a plan in mind, to remove Orochimaru from his body. What Sasuke actually achieved was something that his brother gave him instead. Still whether you classify this as a free power up is based on yourself, it doesn't bother me.

The Rin'negan wasn't free either. If Sasuke didn't have a near death experience as Madara then he would not have been given it by Hagoromo. You don't hear people going around saying Madara's rin'negan was a free power up. "Awakening" an eye technique isn't the same as being given an eye technique. Hagoromo gave Sasuke Indra's power, Indra never had the Rin'negan so he awakened it on his own.
Is this guy serious? Hagoromo awakened Sasuke's Rinnegan for him, which is indirectly a free power up. That's like saying Naruto obtaining RSM isn't :lol

Rikudo Chakra wasn't exactly a free powerup. Something that was entitled to you from the very moment birth can't be free because Sasuke is Indra's transmigrant which means he was destined to acquire this power. it's different than lets say Naruto who was GIVEN the 9 tails AFTER birth. [/COLOR][/FONT]
And ... I'm done here. Anyone who thinks receiving another chakra SUBSTANCE from another being which heightens all of your abilities, isn't a free power up, they are truly lost.
 

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Can I get the reference?
To answer your question, I will just give my thoughts on the Mitsuki One Shot :-

My First Interpretation :-

Boruto is the son of Naruto who is the heir to Hagoromo's Sun Seal. Boruto will be the next in line and as such is associated with the Sun.

Sarada is the daughter of Sasuke who is the heir to Hagoromo's Cresent Moon Seal. Sarada will be the next in line and as such will be associated with the Crescent Moon.

But that Leaves the Full Moon as a blank symbol.

However Kishi has always drawn a line between the Crescent Moon and the Full Moon.

The Crescent Moon is always associated with Good. This is because it forms the basis of the Crescent Moon seal which when combined with the Sun Seal seals all evil away (Chibaku Tensei). Thus both the Sun and the Crescent Moon represent the two opposing forces of Good.

However the Full Moon is the sealing stone of the Juubi, an incarnation of pure evil. The full moon appears whenever evil is unleashed : Garra's Corruption, Obito's corruption, Juubi's revival, Mugen Tsukuyomi are a few examples. When evil is sealed it takes the form of the Full Moon. Mitsuki is now free and he carries the banner of the Full Moon.

The Juubi which is sealed in the Full Moon is the source of all chakra (Again Yin + Yang does not create chakra this was a misconception and the argument was debunked by the Manga and the Fourth Databook) is where all evil comes from. It was the source of Humanity's downfall (Through countless wars) and turns them into mindless Demons (White Zetsus).

My Second Interpretation :-

Thus, the full moon represents Pure Evil and Mitsuki is hunting down Boruto the Sun. This confirms that Mitsuki is a spy working for Orochimaru and also the source of his DNA comes from Boruto himself (Hint : Boruto's picture coming out of the embryo box is not just a throwaway reference).

In the end, Orochimaru has his eyes on Boruto. He is an important plot device as the human incarnation of the Fruit of the Shinju along with Himawari (I made a theory on this a long while back).

My Third Interpretation :-

Mitsuki means Snake Empty Vessel or Snake Sake cup (The Sake cup is the empty vessel). This means the Snake, Orochimaru is in an empty vessel, the sake cup.

The other reference is Snake in the Moon as an empty vessel. Here the Sake Cup is replaced with the Moon. Now What was sealed in the Full Moon as a shell ? The Juubi.

Perhaps Kishi indirectly referenced Orochimaru as the Juubi ?

The material supporting Orochimaru as the Final Villain of the manga is continuously building. :th:

Anyways these are the main three interpretations I got from the Mitsuki Oneshot. Best Chapter yet by Kishi for those who get the references cause all the Plot points made by Rabbit Teth (If you have read his Demon theories) connect.
 

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To answer your question, I will just give my thoughts on the Mitsuki One Shot :-

My First Interpretation :-

Boruto is the son of Naruto who is the heir to Hagoromo's Sun Seal. Boruto will be the next in line and as such is associated with the Sun.

Sarada is the daughter of Sasuke who is the heir to Hagoromo's Cresent Moon Seal. Sarada will be the next in line and as such will be associated with the Crescent Moon.

But that Leaves the Full Moon as a blank symbol.

However Kishi has always drawn a line between the Crescent Moon and the Full Moon.

The Crescent Moon is always associated with Good. This is because it forms the basis of the Crescent Moon seal which when combined with the Sun Seal seals all evil away (Chibaku Tensei). Thus both the Sun and the Crescent Moon represent the two opposing forces of Good.

However the Full Moon is the sealing stone of the Juubi, an incarnation of pure evil. The full moon appears whenever evil is unleashed : Garra's Corruption, Obito's corruption, Juubi's revival, Mugen Tsukuyomi are a few examples. When evil is sealed it takes the form of the Full Moon. Mitsuki is now free and he carries the banner of the Full Moon.

The Juubi which is sealed in the Full Moon is the source of all chakra (Again Yin + Yang does not create chakra this was a misconception and the argument was debunked by the Manga and the Fourth Databook) is where all evil comes from. It was the source of Humanity's downfall (Through countless wars) and turns them into mindless Demons (White Zetsus).

My Second Interpretation :-

Thus, the full moon represents Pure Evil and Mitsuki is hunting down Boruto the Sun. This confirms that Mitsuki is a spy working for Orochimaru and also the source of his DNA comes from Boruto himself (Hint : Boruto's picture coming out of the embryo box is not just a throwaway reference).

In the end, Orochimaru has his eyes on Boruto. He is an important plot device as the human incarnation of the Fruit of the Shinju along with Himawari (I made a theory on this a long while back).

My Third Interpretation :-

Mitsuki means Snake Empty Vessel or Snake Sake cup (The Sake cup is the empty vessel). This means the Snake, Orochimaru is in an empty vessel, the sake cup.

The other reference is Snake in the Moon as an empty vessel. Here the Sake Cup is replaced with the Moon. Now What was sealed in the Full Moon as a shell ? The Juubi.

Perhaps Kishi indirectly referenced Orochimaru as the Juubi ?

The material supporting Orochimaru as the Final Villain of the manga is continuously building. :th:

Anyways these are the main three interpretations I got from the Mitsuki Oneshot. Best Chapter yet by Kishi for those who get the references cause all the Plot points made by Rabbit Teth (If you have read his Demon theories) connect.

Yeah I already read his Theory before.

I know exceptionally well about Full Moon symbolism or it relation with evilness in some believe but when people saying "bcus it being a sealing stone for juubi, thats why it represent evilness". I couldnt agree more but if it natural symbolism of Evilness, I could agree
 

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Yeah I already read his Theory before.

I know exceptionally well about Full Moon symbolism or it relation with evilness in some believe but when people saying "bcus it being a sealing stone for juubi, thats why it represent evilness". I couldnt agree more but if it natural symbolism of Evilness, I could agree
Seals are Ninjutsu and it also increases the spark of evil. This has been referenced in the manga countless times through Naruto and Kuruma's interaction.

However it is Ninshu that can actually erase evil completely as it was with Ninshu that Naruto conquered Kuruma's Hatred (The Hatred is a part of Evil) and befriended him.

The common relation is : Ninshu is Good.
Ninjutsu is Evil.

Even Madara explained why it was so.

Now the Moon is created by a Ninjutsu seal. Most of the time the seal is not able to contain the Juubi's chakra and it leaks out. So it makes sense why the Full Moon is a symbol of Evil. It's because it represents Ninjutsu which is evil by nature.
 

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Seals are Ninjutsu and it also increases the spark of evil. This has been referenced in the manga countless times through Naruto and Kuruma's interaction.

However it is Ninshu that can actually erase evil completely as it was with Ninshu that Naruto conquered Kuruma's Hatred (The Hatred is a part of Evil) and befriended him.

The common relation is : Ninshu is Good.
Ninjutsu is Evil.

Even Madara explained why it was so.

Now the Moon is created by a Ninjutsu seal. Most of the time the seal is not able to contain the Juubi's chakra and it leaks out. So it makes sense why the Full Moon is a symbol of Evil. It's because it represents Ninjutsu which is evil by nature.
But CT is not a ninjutsu even though Wiki said so(cant be trusted). Its not even being invented by Hagoromo or Hamura. It just a natural ability of Rinnegan. Even the user(Hago maybe Hamura also) was not a fan of Ninjutsu and how is Six Path CT can be classified as Ninjutsu.

Seal that being used to cage and stripped down the power of Evilness cant be said as Evil.

Juubi chakra never leaked out from moon as it turned into Bijuu. Ony GM was inside the moon and to summon it, not by using any Ninjutsu but Rinnegan that is KKM or KKG. Also doujutsu is not Ninjutsu

Ninjutsu mean/in English words is Ninja art and Hago or Hamura sure is not a Ninja at all.
 
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