Misconception clear up: Black orbs are a nature release not yin-yang release

[Sennin of Logic]

Many people say that the orbs are what delete ninjutsu. However, that's not the case. Here's what Hiruzen said.

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It's a nature release. It does not by itself have ninjutsu deleting capabilities. This is proved by Hiruzen being regenerated even after being hit by the orbs straight on, and the fact that Naruto and co were shocked that Obito survived being hit by amaterasu without defending himself with the orbs.

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The real deleting jutsu is connected to his body. However, he can carry the effect to the orbs. However, the orbs are not yin-yang by themselves, just nature transformation. They do not get any weaker just because an attack is senjutsu.

 

[paratise]

It includes earth, wind and fire along with water i suppose?

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

You do realize the one FULL juubito uses deletes jutsu right? It was stated and shown numerous times.

 

[Bronze]

Hiruzen's interpretation of functions of black orb is incorrect. Tobirama made it clear that they utilize In'Youton. BTW, I like your sig.

 

[kunde]

I dont know what you are getting at but i can assure you that what obito used was much stronger than what madara is using right now now and Onmyoudon is not an ordinary jutsu which can be used used by anyone it can only be used by those who have control over six paths of rinnegan and as well as juubi's chakra which obito succeeded in controlling them. .

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Hiruzen's interpretation of functions of black orb is incorrect. Tobirama made it clear that they utilize In'Youton. BTW, I like your sig.

Thanks, it's essentially what Madara was saying lol.


on topic: Why was Sasuke surprised a ninjutsu that didn't touch the orbs worked then?

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You do realize the one FULL juubito uses deletes jutsu right? It was stated and shown numerous times.

Yes, but it's not the nature of the orbs themselves. The power comes from Obito himself, and he can apply it to his orbs. The ability to delete jutsu is an extra for the orbs. Otherwise, it would have been completely useless against Naruto and Sasuke.

 

[kunde]

Thanks, it's essentially what Madara was saying lol.


on topic: Why was Sasuke surprised a ninjutsu that didn't touch the orbs worked then?

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See right now it's not just about ninjutsu only it's about whos has more stronger WILL. . sasuke is trying to figure out that but the problem is madara is too strong and experienced in that dept.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

See right now it's not just about ninjutsu only it's about whos has more stronger WILL. . sasuke is trying to figure out that but the problem is madara is too strong and experienced in that dept.

Since when were we talking about Madara? I'm talking about Obito's orbs.

 

[Sir Blades]

In the second scan he did use the orbs to defend himself, as you can see the orbs are pushing the amaterazu, but i agree on the latter.

 

[kunde]

Since when were we talking about Madara? I'm talking about Obito's orbs.

1st of all do you have any proof to say that orbs are not yin-yang?. .have you ever seen anyone using orbs before? NO. . Anyway what obito used against hiruzen was before taking control over juubi. .we can clearly see he used onmyoudon only after gaining control over juubi but not before. .Onmyoudon deletes every ninjutsu but not senjutsu. .

 

[From the Dark Spire]

Hiruzen's interpretation of functions of black orb is incorrect. Tobirama made it clear that they utilize In'Youton. BTW, I like your sig.

This right here, Tobirama described it to be called Omnyoudon or something like that.... I think the reason Hiruzen regenerated was because of the fact Obito wasn't able to really focus on his attacks, because at first he was just a killing machine. Pretty much he was the Juubi itself at that point, it was only when Obito fought back and his will overpowered the juubi's, was he able to truly harness his power.

 

[Xāvî1]

Hiruzen's interpretation of functions of black orb is incorrect. Tobirama made it clear that they utilize In'Youton. BTW, I like your sig.

This exactly

 

[Henrik]

It is called Omnyoudon. And that is something Obito adds into the black orbs.

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[Sennin of Logic]

It is called Omnyoudon. And that is something Obito adds into the black orbs.

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That's kind of what I'm saying. The orbs themselves aren't Omnyoudon though. Nor is Obito restricted to using it through the orbs.

 

[Scryed]

Orbs= 4-5 elements fusion.

Omnyoudon= was added to the orbs to be able to nullify all jutsu. After he regained control.

The difference between his V1 and V2 as I call his Juubi forms is that despite having the black orbs in V1, they didn't stop Hiruzen from regenerating which means Omnyoudon wasn't added to them at the time. They were like a liquid Jinton that was used for offence and defence.

Atleast that's how I see it.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Orbs= 4-5 elements fusion.

Omnyoudon= was added to the orbs to be able to nullify all jutsu. After he regained control.

The difference between his V1 and V2 as I call his Juubi forms is that despite having the black orbs in V1, they didn't stop Hiruzen from regenerating which means Omnyoudon wasn't added to them at the time. They were like a liquid Jinton that was used for offence and defence.

Atleast that's how I see it.

Same here.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Very much agreed

 

[VongolaX]

Those orbs in the second panel just erased amatersu, and obito healed up as well