Misconception about kamui

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Minato has no information about who Tobi was, or what his technique was. It's only natural that you wouldn't let your opponent suck you in.

Minato is slightly different as he is able to teleport to markings, which would indicate that he might the ability to teleport out.
Only if he prepared markings in advance. Then again, Minato is the only known character besides Obito and Kakashi who can use S/T ninjutsu. Kamui is essentially a win if it hits anyone (besides Minato.)
 

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I believe differently, but whatever you believe is cool.
Everything is just assumption, and i just don't think that it would just randomly stop him from teleporting.

Minato basically enters a dimension when he teleports. He destroys his body and then it reconstructs itself in a different place that is withing the certain perimeter. That's essentially how i believe it works.

Thus, why it's different from just Physically moving from one place to another.
 

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They cant do anything, they're helpless. Look at fu and torune
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Once you're in the kamui dimension its GG
That doesn't suggest that it's "GG" at all... That proves that in the dimension they have the ability to stay alive. Minato has the ability to destroy himself and reconstruct himself else were, e.g "Flying Thunder God".

That doesn't prove that they can't break out of the illusion. The illusion might be bounded to the dimension only, although that wouldn't stop him from Teleporting out of the dimension.

It may and sounds like a genjutsu, which is any case Minato could break out of as he's shown great chakra control and the fact he created the rasengan would indicate and demonstrate that he has fantastic chakra control, which is a vital part of breaking genjutsu.
 

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Kakashi can warp parts of people. So he can warp somebody's head then they will die. I don't think other ST jutsu would get people out of the dimension due to Minato avoiding going at all costs.
I find that hard to believe. Since he actually teleports to his Kunai no matter what. But in the least, you have to ask yourself, why would Minato want to be hit by an opponent's attack in the first place?
 

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Obito can also warp body parts because that's what he is doing to himself so he can't be hit from an opponent, and it warps a person into another dimension which isn't connected to there current time/world which would make it unexceptionable unless you have kumi to leave the dimension and if your trapped you will slowly die, if they only focus on one point for long distance (which is how Kakashi used it) attacks which works best on smaller object but can rip limbs off an opponent which would kill them.
 

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They cant do anything, they're helpless. Look at fu and torune
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Once you're in the kamui dimension its GG
the key part in that manga scan is that he said AFTER he captured them he put them in genjutsu. dont recall Sasuke or Karin being under genjutsu when they were there.
 

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What's your answer to this Miraclejoe?
Nice point but the user still has to hit the oponent with kamui, if it was as simple as 1,2,3 then obito or kakashi would have done it multiple times my now.(besides w/Deidara)
Reread manga chapter 274-280
When kakashi and naruto vs deidara. First time kakashi show kamui.
yes, i viewed this when making my opinion.
That's true! However, they do have the ability to wrap specific parts of their body, which is some cases could be vital parts of the human body, such as the head.

Even if Kakashi or obito were to wrap someone in to the other dimension, they wouldn't be able to return without having Kumai, meaning that they would be stuck there unable to fight.

This is essentially a win...
True, it just seems unlikely that kishi would put a one shot jutsu in the narutoverse, even itachi said every jutsu has its weakness.
 

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Kakashi kamui is said to be a one shot kill move. Only problem is he never killed anybody with it. His kamui has been used for defence more then offence
 

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That doesn't suggest that it's "GG" at all... That proves that in the dimension they have the ability to stay alive. Minato has the ability to destroy himself and reconstruct himself else were, e.g "Flying Thunder God".

That doesn't prove that they can't break out of the illusion. The illusion might be bounded to the dimension only, although that wouldn't stop him from Teleporting out of the dimension.

It may and sounds like a genjutsu, which is any case Minato could break out of as he's shown great chakra control and the fact he created the rasengan would indicate and demonstrate that he has fantastic chakra control, which is a vital part of breaking genjutsu.
What the hell are you going on about? This isnt a vs thread...........If it was then kamui would be the least of minatos worries..........:|

the key part in that manga scan is that he said AFTER he captured them he put them in genjutsu. dont recall Sasuke or Karin being under genjutsu when they were there.
Why would obito put sasuke and karin under genjutsu? please tell me
 

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There's an obvious connection between Minato and his tags. He doesn't just decide to teleport to tag at random. There's a process to it. He probably must first sense the kunai. Saying Minato can escape is just an assumption. When Obito goes intangible, his chakra is erased. Think of it the other way around, Minato will not be able to sense anything outside of the dimension. The connection will be severed.

In theory, reverse summoning could work, but it's inconclusive given we don't know the full connection between Minato and the toads. Its relying on an outside force. Hopefully you're not implying Minato will summon a toad, and they'll waltz right the **** out of there using the toads magical S/T technique. More than likely, the contract between the toads and Minato will be severed as well.
 
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no
no one can get out from the other dimension except for obito and kakashi even other kamui user can't even minato can't
here obito said that kakashi wasa able to come as he has the same eye not because he has kamui
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that mean even an other kamui's user can't go out from obiot and kakashi's other dimension
kakashi can warp parts of thi9ngs as he did with didra and the gedo
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kakashi would have killed the gedo which has 7 biju if obito hadn't protected the gedo
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kakashi can warp minato too or his neck as kakashi warped naruto without obito who has sharingan note that mean kakashi's kamui highest speed is above the reaction ,minato won't feel to use his ftg
don't try to get ride of this ability kakashi can kill anyone with it if he start the fight with it even madara if obito doesn't protect him
even if kakashi or obito warped all body that can be considered as a seal no one can break it
 

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That's true! However, they do have the ability to wrap specific parts of their body, which is some cases could be vital parts of the human body, such as the head.

Even if Kakashi or obito were to wrap someone in to the other dimension, they wouldn't be able to return without having Kumai, meaning that they would be stuck there unable to fight.

This is essentially a win...
This is very tru
 

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minato shud be able to get out due to ftg since his teleportation takes him to his markings. also any shinobi that has a conract seal with animals has a chance of getting out with reverse summoning, just like when pa summoned naruto from ichiraku
 

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What the hell are you going on about? This isnt a vs thread...........If it was then kamui would be the least of minatos worries..........:|



Why would obito put sasuke and karin under genjutsu? please tell me
exactly my point. When he captured Fuu and Torune its safe to say that he went into that dimension and then put them under genjutsu, its not like they could go anywhere
 

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There's an obvious connection between Minato and his tags. He doesn't just decide to teleport to tag at random. There's a process to it. He probably must first sense the kunai. Saying Minato can escape is just an assumption. When Obito goes intangible, his chakra is erased. Think of it the other way around, Minato will not be able to sense anything outside of the dimension. The connection will be severed.

In theory, reverse summoning could work, but it's inconclusive given we don't know the full connection between Minato and the toads. Its relying on an outside force. Hopefully you're not implying Minato will summon a toad, and they'll waltz right the **** out of there using the toads magical S/T technique. More than likely, the contract between the toads and Minato will be severed as well.
its all speculation with you saying Minato would have to sense his Kunai
 
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