Misconception about Edo Madara

[Lucci]

Well firstly I guess I'd better introduce myself to y'all sooo ermm Hi?

I been reading around for a while so I pretty much know how things run on the base, and I don't really have a favourite character so if I do post in threads about certain characters, I will try to share an unbiased view (hopefully).

Now this discussion will be focused around Edo Madara. Whilst he is very powerful, every time I see a vs thread or a top 10 thread, people tend to say "Edo Madara wins" without putting much thought into it all.

So I was discussing with a few friends, and they kept saying there's no ninja in the manga that can defeat Edo Madara and he will only be defeated due to plot. Now, I will agree that in terms of power, he by far has the most OP techniques in the manga. But if we include all ninja's and Edo's, couldn't you argue that Edo Itachi and Edo Nagato stand a chance in defeating him. I solely make this claim because they both possess high level sealing techniques capable of sealing Edo Madara (whom we haven't seen show any sealing techniques thus far). Madara does have the rinnegan so you could argue that he should be able to use human path, but even then, as long as those two have those techniques, there is a chance of them sealing the guy and thus defeating him. They are both armed with powerful jutsu themselves and possess enough intelligence and strength to formulate a plan to capture and seal him. There is the problem that Madara is immortal and has unlimited chakra, but then again that benefit is shared by all Edo's so that should enable them to last in battle against him.

What do you guys think of this? accurate or a baseless assumption?

(apologise in advance if any of the contents of this thread have already been previously mentioned)

 

[Kages]

Welcome to base and I agree

 

[Axten]

Welcome to the Base
i have to agree in an way

 

[MickNerks]

Yeah.. Edo nagato could solo edo madara.. Madara has no counter for this

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[Q of the Sharingan]

They could defeat him if he doesn't start the battle with PS. Even with Susanoo up, human path wouldn't work on him and the Totsuka blade has to actually pierce its target to seal, which I doubt it can easily piece a full Susanoo. Edo Madara is just op with PS, mokuton, and invincibility.

 

[Rike Senju]

Individually he rapes itachi and beats nagato.

 

[Lucci]

Welcome to base and I agree

Welcome to the Base
i have to agree in an way

cheers! glad I'm not the only one to think so lol

 

[Typhon Uchiha]

Yeah I agree.

Madara is way too arrogant, vsing Itachi he most likely do it like oro and not bother with defense and wouldnt bother putting up his susanoo....Sealage.

Vsing Nagato well the scan MickNerks put up speaks for itself.

 

[Samoan Ninja of the Cloud]

True true, but if madara had the Human Path, would he be able to take on the sword of totsuka?

and if he uses the rinnegan, he would be at a disadvantage towards any genjutsu itatchi may throw at him, i mean, itatchi is the only other person known to use Tsukiyomi

good thread

 

[The Alchemist]

Hola, Como Esta?
I think Edo Tensei is too overrated and too OP. Kishi kinda pissed me off with making the manga into a OP DBZ type of war. But he continues to implement strategy and intellect. I don't deny Edo Madara is the most powerful but that in no way means he'll dominate everyone. Kushina would probably give him a run for his money because her chakra chains were strong enough to restrain the full might of the Kyuubi, so her sealing abilities are perfect...
Just had a brain storm, I think Madara is the reason Uzushiogakure was wiped out, they were the biggest threat to him what with their super sealing techs.
I think I'm cooking up a new theory!
*Runs off to try to make my point*

 

[frbro82]

Edo Minato wins

 

[Kurama2012]

i agree with you i only place edo madara as number 1 as he is to op but to say he cant be beat is just overrating him

 

[Omnipotent]

Well firstly I guess I'd better introduce myself to y'all sooo ermm Hi?

I been reading around for a while so I pretty much know how things run on the base, and I don't really have a favourite character so if I do post in threads about certain characters, I will try to share an unbiased view (hopefully).

Now this discussion will be focused around Edo Madara. Whilst he is very powerful, every time I see a vs thread or a top 10 thread, people tend to say "Edo Madara wins" without putting much thought into it all.

So I was discussing with a few friends, and they kept saying there's no ninja in the manga that can defeat Edo Madara and he will only be defeated due to plot. Now, I will agree that in terms of power, he by far has the most OP techniques in the manga. But if we include all ninja's and Edo's, couldn't you argue that Edo Itachi and Edo Nagato stand a chance in defeating him. I solely make this claim because they both possess high level sealing techniques capable of sealing Edo Madara (whom we haven't seen show any sealing techniques thus far). Madara does have the rinnegan so you could argue that he should be able to use human path, but even then, as long as those two have those techniques, there is a chance of them sealing the guy and thus defeating him. They are both armed with powerful jutsu themselves and possess enough intelligence and strength to formulate a plan to capture and seal him. There is the problem that Madara is immortal and has unlimited chakra, but then again that benefit is shared by all Edo's so that should enable them to last in battle against him.

What do you guys think of this? accurate or a baseless assumption?

(apologise in advance if any of the contents of this thread have already been previously mentioned)

Sealing = defeating?
So apparently Mito defeated Kurama

But I agree. Except for the part where you say they could defeat him. Sealing is sealing. Nobody says Mito defeated Kurama, they say that Mito sealed Kurama.

 

[Lucci]

True true, but if madara had the Human Path, would he be able to take on the sword of totsuka?

and if he uses the rinnegan, he would be at a disadvantage towards any genjutsu itatchi may throw at him, i mean, itatchi is the only other person known to use Tsukiyomi

good thread

You do raise some good points, but I was just thinking that sword of totsuka gives edo itachi a huge advantage because all that is required is for him to pierce Edo Madara. Now I'm very sure that he has enough speed and intelligence therefore he should be able to execute a move to high precision in order to pierce and seal him.

Thanks

 

[Lucci]

Sealing = defeating?
So apparently Mito defeated Kurama

But I agree. Accept for the part where you say they could defeat him. Sealing is sealing. Nobody says Mito defeated Kurama, they say that Mito sealed Kurama.

It depends on how you personally interpret the word I guess. To defeat can be considered as to overcome a difficult situation by a sort of means. So I guess it's hard to take just one application for the word. But yeaa I guess I could have chosen a better word to describe what I meant.

 

[Samoan Ninja of the Cloud]

You do raise some good points, but I was just thinking that sword of totsuka gives edo itachi a huge advantage because all that is required is for him to pierce Edo Madara. Now I'm very sure that he has enough speed and intelligence therefore he should be able to execute a move to high precision in order to pierce and seal him.

Thanks

That is a good point too, but as we had seen, Madara can switch with ease when it comes to the Sharingan and the Rinnegan. he has shown to use the human path, when he absorbed the Rasenshuuriken thrown at him.

thats all.

 

[Lucci]

That is a good point too, but as we had seen, Madara can switch with ease when it comes to the Sharingan and the Rinnegan. he has shown to use the human path, when he absorbed the Rasenshuuriken thrown at him.

thats all.

Wait, isn't it preta path that is used to absorb chakra attacks, and human path seals the soul of the person? He must have used preta to absorb that attack, but yeaa other than that you do have a point. The ease at which he can switch between both dōjutsu makes it more difficult to actually hit the guy.

 

[Omnipotent]

It depends on how you personally interpret the word I guess. To defeat can be considered as to overcome a difficult situation by a sort of means. So I guess it's hard to take just one application for the word. But yeaa I guess I could have chosen a better word to describe what I meant.

Indeed

 

[KidGamer65]

Edo Madara would man handle Itachi and Nagato at the same time.

 

[Lucci]

Edo Madara would man handle Itachi and Nagato at the same time.

A normal Itachi and Nagato, without a doubt. However, an Edo Itachi and Edo Nagato, not so easy to man handle.