[Question] Mingos ability? Oo

[ILikeChicken]

Uhmm just some questions about Flamingos abilities because I still don't understand his limits

The "Bird Cage" seems to be one of his most powerful ability.
But how far does his "controlling-ability" goes? I mean he could control the kingdom back then but he cannot control stronger persons like Ruffy, Zoro, Fujitora etc.. can he?
Flamingo also cut all ways to stay in contact with the rest of the world, so the marine is not able to contact the hq but how does he think will Fujitora react? He is obviously a kind person who does not want to hurt persons without reasons so he might punish Flamingo for his past actions. Flamingo says that he wants to get rid of the admiral once he has used him Oo Is he serious? He appears pretty arrogant is he means he can control him like he want to.

So do you think Mingo > Fujitora and do you think Mingos controlling has a limit, like the conquerers Haki has ( stronger persons don't get affected that much)?


Nice day everyone

 

[Prog]

Ok, first of all, I also like Chicken. Tambien, I haven't reached that far in OP.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

It's mainly plot why he can't control Luffy and co. Although we may see him take control of either Luffy or Law for a while while they are fighting him?

I think Doflamingo > Issho U__U

 

[Black Mamba]

i dunno he was able to stop Jozu, but I do think his controlling does have limits like no way he would be able to control yonkos.

I think fujitora > doflamingo very high diff.

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[Tomato God]

Most people he controlled dont possess the ability to detect the strings and get out of the way.
Sanji being stronger than some of the contestants that are running a muck got caught. But he didnt see it coming.
And sanji specailizes in CoO but in the heat of battle like at skypiea you coud lose control.
As long as the top tiers dont lose focus they should be fine. Its not a matter of strength Like CoC its a matter of not getting caught in the first place.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Unless Fujitora has more to show than meteors, than Flamingo absolutely is better. He's already shown he can destroy Fuji's meteors.

 

[Red Swag]

It's mainly plot why he can't control Luffy and co. Although we may see him take control of either Luffy or Law for a while while they are fighting him?

I think Doflamingo > Issho U__U

exactly this.

smh imo doflamingo can easily take out luffy if he wanted to. but hes the main char so it aint happenin son.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

exactly this.

smh imo doflamingo can easily take out luffy if he wanted to. but hes the main char so it aint happenin son.

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He knows it.

Except I think Luffy can push Dolfamingo to extreme diff >__>

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Uhmm just some questions about Flamingos abilities because I still don't understand his limits

The "Bird Cage" seems to be one of his most powerful ability.
But how far does his "controlling-ability" goes? I mean he could control the kingdom back then but he cannot control stronger persons like Ruffy, Zoro, Fujitora etc.. can he?
Flamingo also cut all ways to stay in contact with the rest of the world, so the marine is not able to contact the hq but how does he think will Fujitora react? He is obviously a kind person who does not want to hurt persons without reasons so he might punish Flamingo for his past actions. Flamingo says that he wants to get rid of the admiral once he has used him Oo Is he serious? He appears pretty arrogant is he means he can control him like he want to.

So do you think Mingo > Fujitora and do you think Mingos controlling has a limit, like the conquerers Haki has ( stronger persons don't get affected that much)?


Nice day everyone

He easily controlled jozu when fought in strings -_- neither Zoro or luffy has stronger Haki ten diamond mixed with Haki ... (Thts how he was able to hit croco boy) so yes he can easily control Zoro and luffy if they r caught in strings Fuji is different story he's admiral and he has gravity idk how tht would play out against doffy strings

 

[Punk Hazard]

He easily controlled jozu when fought in strings -_- neither Zoro or luffy has stronger Haki ten diamond mixed with Haki ... (Thts how he was able to hit croco boy) so yes he can easily control Zoro and luffy if they r caught in strings Fuji is different story he's admiral and he has gravity idk how tht would play out against doffy strings

I don't think Doffy used Haki against Croco since he wasn't aiming to kill.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

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He knows it.

Except I think Luffy can push Dolfamingo to extreme diff >__>

Bro please how is that possible doffy excels in everything luffy is good at bar physical strength cuz we haven't seen it
Expirence = doffy
Speed = doffy (dude was able to cross islands and huge bodies of water in short amount of time to get to punk hazard)
Strength = giving it to luffy because idk although doffy clashed with Fuji tht doesn't mean anything
Intelligence= doffy.....
Stamina= gonna give to luffy because he is younger

Now Haki= it's up in the air idk if luffy has stronger Haki because vergo I still believe has better Haki then luffy in terms of ardament and if that is case I feel doffy has better Haki then him.... Because why would vergo work for someone weaker then him ?? Also doffy had enough Haki in his strings to stop a fully inraged Haki/diamond jozu from further damaging croco boy )

So yeah why Tf and how Tf can luffy push him to extreme diff other then the fact tht he's main character ?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I don't think Doffy used Haki against Croco since he wasn't aiming to kill.

He used it against jozu lol I didn't say he used it against croc I said jozu used Haki and diamond to hit crocodile neither luffy or Zoro has shown to have Haki on tht level so the fact tht doffy stopped jozu rather easily he can do the same to both luffy and Zoro (if the story wasn't about them lol)

At least until oda rights a weakness for doffy strings anyway

 

[Punk Hazard]

He used it against jozu lol I didn't say he used it against croc I said jozu used Haki and diamond to hit crocodile neither luffy or Zoro has shown to have Haki on tht level so the fact tht doffy stopped jozu rather easily he can do the same to both luffy and Zoro (if the story wasn't about them lol)

At least until oda rights a weakness for doffy strings anyway

Uhh Jozu didn't show anything special with his Haki. He hit Croco and made him bleed from his mouth, Zoro showed the same level of Haki when he cut Monet and Luffy showed higher Haki than Jozu has by using Buso: Koka. I don't doubt that Jozu can use Buso: Koka, but from what we've seen so far from him, we can't say he's anything special from Luffy or Zoro in the compartment of Busoshoku.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Bro please how is that possible doffy excels in everything luffy is good at bar physical strength cuz we haven't seen it
Expirence = doffy
Speed = doffy (dude was able to cross islands and huge bodies of water in short amount of time to get to punk hazard)
Strength = giving it to luffy because idk although doffy clashed with Fuji tht doesn't mean anything
Intelligence= doffy.....
Stamina= gonna give to luffy because he is younger

Now Haki= it's up in the air idk if luffy has stronger Haki because vergo I still believe has better Haki then luffy in terms of ardament and if that is case I feel doffy has better Haki then him.... Because why would vergo work for someone weaker then him ?? Also doffy had enough Haki in his strings to stop a fully inraged Haki/diamond jozu from further damaging croco boy )

So yeah why Tf and how Tf can luffy push him to extreme diff other then the fact tht he's main character ?

Well first off, the main character part is about 40% why.
He has superior haki imo, due to training with a master of it for a year and a half.
Experience, I agree, Doffy takes this. I always say experience > youth.
Speed, I say Luffy, gear second.
Strength, Luffy.
Intelligence, obviously Doflamingo.

The fact he trained for a year and a half with the first mate of the pirate king makes up for Doflamingos experience imo.
Doflamingo wins due to clones strategy...just the way I see it going.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Well first off, the main character part is about 40% why.
He has superior haki imo, due to training with a master of it for a year and a half.
Experience, I agree, Doffy takes this. I always say experience > youth.
Speed, I say Luffy, gear second.
Strength, Luffy.
Intelligence, obviously Doflamingo.

The fact he trained for a year and a half with the first mate of the pirate king makes up for Doflamingos experience imo.
Doflamingo wins due to clones strategy...just the way I see it going.

.... Ok luffy had been training for 2 years it is unclear when doffy had Haki but it is clear tht u have to have Haki to survive in new world he conquered dress rosa ten years ago so he had Haki 10 years ago

So he has been training his Haki for 10+ years.... That is > luffy 2 years...
Speed how is luffy faster then doffy ?? Doffy was able to travel between islands in little time ? Hell he was able to travel from one island to the other play with a few marines and then go back getting there b4 law and luffy ... All in one day ?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Well first off, the main character part is about 40% why.
He has superior haki imo, due to training with a master of it for a year and a half.
Experience, I agree, Doffy takes this. I always say experience > youth.
Speed, I say Luffy, gear second.
Strength, Luffy.
Intelligence, obviously Doflamingo.

The fact he trained for a year and a half with the first mate of the pirate king makes up for Doflamingos experience imo.
Doflamingo wins due to clones strategy...just the way I see it going.

Why does Ray's status make up for experience? Just because Ray is the first mate of Roger doesn't mean Luffy is gonna be any more special than if he was trained by Marco or Shanks, at the end of the day, it all comes down to Luffy.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

.... Ok luffy had been training for 2 years it is unclear when doffy had Haki but it is clear tht u have to have Haki to survive in new world he conquered dress rosa ten years ago so he had Haki 10 years ago

So he has been training his Haki for 10+ years.... That is > luffy 2 years...
Speed how is luffy faster then doffy ?? Doffy was able to travel between islands in little time ? Hell he was able to travel from one island to the other play with a few marines and then go back getting there b4 law and luffy ... All in one day ?

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Having haki for ten years doesn't mean you have better haki than another character. Look at Vergo, he probably began training in it when he became Vice Admiral (partly down to a theory of mine so can't really use as evidence...)

Well the problem with that is Luffy and Doflamingo aren't fighting one another from different islands, when it comes to short distances Luffys Gear Second has shown greater feats.
Separate note, i'm sure Rayleigh and Luffy didn't just spend a year and a half training in haki, due to his experience Rayleigh clearly will gave given Luffy some tips and tricks for combat from his own experience (which is greater than Doflamingos) we have already seen evidence of that back in Punk Hazard.

Why does Ray's status make up for experience? Just because Ray is the first mate of Roger doesn't mean Luffy is gonna be any more special than if he was trained by Marco or Shanks, at the end of the day, it all comes down to Luffy.

Well Rayleigh has been across the whole New World...Marco and Shanks..haven't?
So it's fair to say he has way more experience than any alive character today when it comes to the New World and it's antics.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Why does Ray's status make up for experience? Just because Ray is the first mate of Roger doesn't mean Luffy is gonna be any more special than if he was trained by Marco or Shanks, at the end of the day, it all comes down to Luffy.

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[Dęvîa Puęrî]

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Having haki for ten years doesn't mean you have better haki than another character. Look at Vergo, he probably began training in it when he became Vice Admiral (partly down to a theory of mine so can't really use as evidence...)

Well the problem with that is Luffy and Doflamingo aren't fighting one another from different islands, when it comes to short distances Luffys Gear Second has shown greater feats.
Separate note, i'm sure Rayleigh and Luffy didn't just spend a year and a half training in haki, due to his experience Rayleigh clearly will gave given Luffy some tips and tricks for combat from his own experience (which is greater than Doflamingos) we have already seen evidence of that back in Punk Hazard.



Well Rayleigh has been across the whole New World...Marco and Shanks..haven't?
So it's fair to say he has way more experience than any alive character today when it comes to the New World and it's antics.

Marco has as well as shanks the only place they haven't gone is where ever OP is lol...

Also I still dnt think doffy is slower then luffy he is called a speed demon and of course luffy has better feats he's main character as for the whole island apart thing tell tht to sanji and law who both were suspended in mid air and doffy. Attacking them lol I cannot wait to c this fight it's gonna b so epic it better be bloody -/- luffy punches breaks bones doffy strings cut meteors so shouldn't have any trouble cutting trough bone and flesh hell maybe luffy will lose body part lol to match Zoro

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Marco has as well as shanks the only place they haven't gone is where ever OP is lol...

Also I still dnt think doffy is slower then luffy he is called a speed demon and of course luffy has better feats he's main character as for the whole island apart thing tell tht to sanji and law who both were suspended in mid air and doffy. Attacking them lol I cannot wait to c this fight it's gonna b so epic it better be bloody -/- luffy punches breaks bones doffy strings cut meteors so shouldn't have any trouble cutting trough bone and flesh hell maybe luffy will lose body part lol to match Zoro

Sorry, I forgot where it was stated Marco and Shanks has been across the entire New World. Not only that, but also it's pretty safe to assume Shanks learnt everything from Rayleigh, there are a ton of similarities between the two.
Goatee, baggy pants, swordsmen, monster haki. If that is so, that's evidence right there as how good of a teacher Rayleigh is, one of his students is a freaking Yonko.

He was never called a speed demon, it was Sky Demon, Ten Yasha was it? Not sure...
Plus speed and reaction speed are two different things, just saying.
Gear Second > Sanjis speed and Law teleports, not actually physically moving.
Ye, i'm not saying Luffy will win, i'm saying he can push Doflamingo to extreme diff. Already explained why.