Minato's True Speed?

[Sharingdork]

Okay, so, when Naruto and the Raikage were talking (if you haven't read the manga, you can leave now because of spoilers, if you wish), A said that he was the fastest shinobi now that the Fourth Hokage has passed away. This implies that Minato was faster than A, and A is just as fast as Naruto in his fox cloak, and he moves as a golen flash (as stated by Bee), so I'm wondering just how fast Minato was, to exceed either what was, or what Bee mistook to be the

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. And was this Minato's natural speed, or his teleportation jutsu to which A was refering to? Because if it was his natural speed that exceeded speed equal to the Body Flicker, FTG is epic to the power of infinity!

Also, one thing that confuses me about FTG is that it's classified as a space/time ninjutsu, but it's description is that he moves at untracable speeds, which sort of contradict each other. Space/time would lead one (or at least me) to believe that he teleports (literally disappears here and reappears over there), but moving at untracable speeds appears to mean (to me) that he's running/flying at impossible speeds. So, an easier way to put this is, if there's a wall that is impossible to get around (over, under, to either side of) between Minato and his space/time kunai, would he be able to teleport there? Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!

 

[Kenpai]

I'm thinking of it like when DragonBall Z was still on. Remember when they fight and they just teleport while they fight. But, Speed wise Minato is faster ( we Just read that in manga today, but A relexes are faster than Minato). So think of it as a Trackstar (the start is all about reaction time (A), but top speed is more of Minato's thing GUESSING can cut corners while his still running at that speed). That's the best way i can put it coming from a sprinter perspective.

So A is more (agility and reaction)
Minato is top speed

 

[Saberwulf]

Verb 1. teleport - transport by dematerializing at one point and assembling at another
this is the definition of teleporting and in most sci-fi movies they do this too
FTG doesnt seem to do this though
it probably makes u go really fast its like ur in two places at once lets say it could make u go at the speed of light.........going at that speed will make you be two places at once
making it seem u teleport so the FTG truly is a space/time ninjutsu because ur going so fast ur basically teleporting

 

[whoami28]

Well you can't actually measure the speed of a teleport, because no distance is truly traveled, you just disappear and reappear. I'd say that A was referring to speed in the sense of being able to move freely around a battlefield, Minato with his FTG was without a doubt faster than A.

In terms of actual speed I don't know if we have seen Minato use body flicker, and the Raikage combined body flicker with his lightning technique to enhance his nervous system and speed, something that seems beyond Minato (excluding FTG of course) in terms of actual movement and human reaction time, unless he too has something similar to A that has not been revealed.

 

[Saberwulf]

We have only seen Minato fight twice
(kakashi chronicles and madara and ninetails vs him)
he might have more under his sleeve remember he used FTG level two to defeat madara
perhaps there is a level 3 or more

 

[Phobos]

FTG is surely a teleport not just speed enhance, Minato used it to get inside a building i doubt he was opening door... lol and he teleported away from chanins when fighting madara= also teleport, his real speed (i think) was shown when madara threw naruto in air and tried to stab him - Minato catched him mid air and landed on wall behind faster than madara could turn his head around -.-
there u go Minato is beast!

 

[Sharingdork]

FTG is surely a teleport not just speed enhance, Minato used it to get inside a building i doubt he was opening door... lol and he teleported away from chanins when fighting madara= also teleport, his real speed (i think) was shown when madara threw naruto in air and tried to stab him - Minato catched him mid air and landed on wall behind faster than madara could turn his head around -.-
there u go Minato is beast!

I knew he was beast, i just want to know how beast. xd

 

[sage sarutobi]

Minato is simply the best his space time ninjutsu is comparable to madara's own space time jutsu . Minato's space time techs show great prowess on the battle field he is able to take down large num of ninja's in an instant.

 

[Olorin]

FTG bends space and time thats why it is called space-time ninjutsu
you dont teleport in the literal definition
and you arent just super fast
you bend space and time and just appear somewhere else instantaneously thats why it could be compared to teleport, because its instantaneous, but he doesent dematerialize

 

[Sharingdork]

FTG bends space and time thats why it is called space-time ninjutsu
you dont teleport in the literal definition
and you arent just super fast
you bend space and time and just appear somewhere else instantaneously thats why it could be compared to teleport, because its instantaneous, but he doesent dematerialize

So, he badically teleports, making FTG not speed, meaning that his natural speed was greater than the Raikages, which is basically Body Flicker. Nice to know for my bio test.

 

[~Deidara~]

FTG is teleportation I think. I also think Minato's TRUE speed is like any quick shinobi's. FTG is his kunai thrown with a seal on it. He teleports where that is. THAT's what makes him "fast". Teleportation, not natural speed.

 

[Sharingdork]

FTG is teleportation I think. I also think Minato's TRUE speed is like any quick shinobi's. FTG is his kunai thrown with a seal on it. He teleports where that is. THAT's what makes him "fast". Teleportation, not natural speed.

No, the raikage said that Minato was faster, and because teleportaion isn't speed, that means that Minato's natural speed was greater than the Raikage's. Otherwise, i could say the Tobi is the fastest ninja alive because of his space/time ninjutsu.

 

[-Hades-]

First FTG is a SPACE-TIME jutsu, it does not involve high speed movements but the bending of space and time. Proof for that is when he uses it to teleport the blast from the 9 tails away from the village, and when he teleports away with the nine tails fox... none of those could be done by "moving at insane speeds".
And back to his true speed, he was normally faster than raikage... without his FTG. If Minato was to use FTG, then no one could match him, and with all his speed, the Raikage couldn't do anything against Minato, because Minato doesn't have a route, a trajectory when he is using FTG, there is nothing to keep up with...

 

[Gatsndshanks]

FTG is a reverse summoning. It brings the user to where ever the special tag on the kunai is. it has nothing to do with speed.

 

[Anduril]

Well my view is that the fourth was just fast enough (without using his flying thundergod) as any other shinobi but his use of flying thunder god was a classified information since those who witnessed it never lived to tell the tale so i dont think they ever knew that FTG was actually a teleportation jutsu all they could do was guess what he did and the dimwits like raikage would have thought that his speed was so much that he was invisible ??!!
That is my theory!!

 

[Sharingdork]

FTG is a reverse summoning. It brings the user to where ever the special tag on the kunai is. it has nothing to do with speed.

exactly, so his speed (not FTG; his running speed) was greater than the Raikage's, which is about equal to Naruto's fox cloak, which is basically the Body Flicker, putting Minato faster than body flicker. Or is there something wrong with this logic?

 

[DESTRUCTO]

exactly, so his speed (not FTG; his running speed) was greater than the Raikage's, which is about equal to Naruto's fox cloak, which is basically the Body Flicker, putting Minato faster than body flicker. Or is there something wrong with this logic?

Nope, nothing wrong with it, sounds about right to me. Body flicker is just a reference to like what they did in DBZ, where they moved so fast that they left an image of themselves behind, so any speed technique that does this, no matter who's faster, is considered body flicker. Some are just faster then others.

 

[Kakashi Fang]

Well my view is that the fourth was just fast enough (without using his flying thundergod) as any other shinobi but his use of flying thunder god was a classified information since those who witnessed it never lived to tell the tale so i dont think they ever knew that FTG was actually a teleportation jutsu all they could do was guess what he did and the dimwits like raikage would have thought that his speed was so much that he was invisible ??!!
That is my theory!!

I was just about to say that the Raikage just doesn't know the secret behind the FTG technique so he thinks Minato is moving at Incomprehensible speeds.

 

[Anduril]

I was just about to say that the Raikage just doesn't know the secret behind the FTG technique so he thinks Minato is moving at Incomprehensible speeds.

Yep that is the truth my friend we all know about FTG but raikage cannot know nothing about FTG!!