Minato's sensing >= Tobirama's sensing

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[Bogard]

The only relevant point there is #3, so I'm gonna address that. It's been shown clear as day that Tobirama can actually sense the chakra within cells of a shinobi [

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]. Every sensor can recognize chakra, but that doesn't give them enough information to allow the sensor to group the shinobi with a particular clan. They have to look deeper, evidenced by Hashirama not knowing about Karin's Uzumaki heritage even though he married and banged an Uzumaki, and yet he's a sensor. Minato also married and banged an Uzumaki but he didn't comment on Karin being an Uzumaki. You have 2 feats there of Tobirama sensing the chakra of cells, where's Minato's feats regarding this?

It's a nice feat indeed i give you that, but notice Hashirama replicated the same feat even faster than him despite being said to be bad at sensing(in the fb), so it doesn't seem to be out of any other sensor's reach. The simple fact chakra flows in every cells of the body should tell you that. To sense you're inside a genjutsu for example, you sense accupressure points(like Ao during the Kage summit)

Also please don't play the card not saying anything = not knowing. Minato never said he didn't know. Minato is a quiet character. Even if he notices a thing he would never say something unless it's important or you asks him. During the same revival point, the difference in character between Tobirama and Minato was already noticeable. Minato sensed Naruto and Kyubi's chakra on the battlefield, but conserved the information for himself quietly when Tobirama directly bragged out when he sensed Madara's

Like we never knew he actually sensed Jubi's chakra inside Jubito until he reminded us that while facing Madara

You need to kneed chakra to sense anyway. Tobirama stated it himself [

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[Gold Lightning]

I just said Minato was good at sensing...

Next time read the full post before going off at me.

why label it a Tobirama feat when minato does both those things as we'll U_U

Minato shows a sensing feat and the Minato fapboys are making wall of text threads and outnumbering the viewers in an attempt to overwhelm them while spouting nothing but fanfiction and bias?

Classic Minato fans. smh.

Minato has shown just as many sensing feats, but of course you guys can't read can you

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

why label it a Tobirama feat when minato does both those things as we'll U_U



Minato has shown just as many sensing feats, but of course you guys can't read can you

Because Minato has'nt shown to be able to sense multiple people and their chakra levels in the same way Tobirama can?You can't give feats to someone when there aren't any.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Because Minato has'nt shown to be able to sense multiple people and their chakra levels in the same way Tobirama can?You can't give feats to someone when there aren't any.

What, it's obvious minato can.

Why would minato use his finger sensing to determine how many enemies there are if isn't able to sense more than one. He clearly sensed all 20 shadow clones of that rock ninja, shadow clones chakra can't be distinguished so it's the same as sensing 20 different people.

Minato just sensed the increase in power of Madara compared to Obito.

Gosh mam.

 

[Penguin]

I can't....I just can't...:leaf:

In SM Minato should have better sensing, if you give him Naruto's sensing feats. Lol

 

[Touken]

It's a nice feat indeed i give you that, but notice Hashirama replicated the same feat even faster than him despite being said to be bad at sensing(in the fb), so it doesn't seem to be out of any other sensor's reach. The simple fact chakra flows in every cells of the body should tell you that. To sense you're inside a genjutsu for example, you sense accupressure points(like Ao during the Kage summit)

Except that Orochimaru's body is comprised of his cells. If Orochimaru's chakra is near identical to Hashirama's, of course Hashirama is going to be the first to notice that, especially since Tobirama wanted to rush off to the battlefield after hearing the news of Madara's revival. Ao's an extremely accomplished sensor, being able to pick out all the Edo shinobi from thousands of White Zetsu clones [

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]. Not to mention he's the captain of the Sensor Division, but I digress, yes, chakra flows through every cell but sensors don't sense a disruption in their cells, no, they sense the disruption of the chakra pathway system which consists of 361 nodes, and these nodes cover the entire body collectively. 361 nodes is a much bigger scale than sensing the chakra within cells, considering cells are much, much smaller than the chakra nodes within the body.

Also please don't play the card not saying anything = not knowing. Minato never said he didn't know. Minato is a quiet character. Even if he notices a thing he would never say something unless it's important or you asks him. During the same revival point, the difference in character between Tobirama and Minato was already noticeable. Minato sensed Naruto and Kyubi's chakra on the battlefield, but conserved the information for himself quietly when Tobirama directly bragged out when he sensed Madara's

Fair enough.

Like we never knew he actually sensed Jubi's chakra inside Jubito until he reminded us that while facing Madara

Hmm? What's this referring to?

You need to kneed chakra to sense anyway. Tobirama stated it himself [

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]. So it's not like during a random, calm and quiet discussion with allies they would kneed chakra for nothing

It's not like they're about to knead the chakra for battle.

 

[Jarex]

Tobirama is better at sensing than minato.

And for those that keep saying perfect sage mode, minato don't have perfect sage mode and yin kurama for negative feeling sensing which he has not been shown been shown to be able to do. So please stop giving minato feats he don't have

Tobirama >>>>>>>> minato

 

[Gold Lightning]

I can't....I just can't...:leaf:

In SM Minato should have better sensing, if you give him Naruto's sensing feats. Lol

There's no should about it, it's a freebie that comes with psm.

 

[Specific]

Sm Minato (his 10 seconds of it) has on par sensing with Tobirama and that is debatable.

Base Minato's sensing doesn't even come close to Tobirama's.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Okay let me make this more clear:

All Tobirama's sensing feats:
1. Senses kinkaku squad - 20 in total (two finger sensing)
2. Senses Madara power (from long distance)
3. Senses Hashirama's cells
4. Senses karin's Uzumaki chakra

All Minato's sensing feats
1. Senses Mahiru and all his clones - 20 in total (one finger sensing)
2. Senses Obitos sneak attack
3. Senses Naruto + Kurama chakra (from long distance)
4. Senses Narutos dying chakra
5. Senses differences between Madara and Obitos chakra

 

[Penguin]

Okay let me make this more clear:

All Tobirama's sensing feats:
1. Senses kinkaku squad - 20 in total (two finger sensing)
2. Senses Madara power (from long distance)
3. Senses Hashirama's cells
4. Senses karin's Uzumaki chakra

All Minato's sensing feats
1. Senses Mahiru and all his clones - 20 in total (one finger sensing)
2. Senses Obitos sneak attack
3. Senses Naruto + Kurama chakra (from long distance)
4. Senses Narutos dying chakra
5. Senses differences between Madara and Obitos chakra

No. You are missing some of Tobirama's and giving Minato feats that are not his.

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I don't get this finger thing by the way. You are assuming since Minato uses one finger he is better for some weird reason. Maybe Tobirama likes to use two? Do you think if Minato used two fingers he would sense better or something? It is merely preference.

Number three is not a confirmed feat, as Touken pointed out before non sensors sensed that chakra. Same with number two, as

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to find out Obito sneaking up on him. But this is all speculation after all, on both sides of the Minato sensing argument.

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

Minato is a great sensor- how good he is relative to tobirama is unknown- however saying the have similar capabilities is probably a good guess


--- sage mode Naruto's sensing feats surpass his fathers and tobiramas btw

-- in bsm Naruto's sensing feats were compared to the EMS's precognition abilities ( both naruto and Sasuke saying they were getting used to obito's speed)

 

[End of Days]

What does it matter??.. He hasn't said, according to your looks, or according to your red hair or your characteristics, he's said ''according to your chakra''. There's a reason Kishi was specific on the fact that he recognized her through her ''Chakra'', If someone was familiar with Uchihas, he would know the Uchiha through their sharingan not through their chakra, same with Uzumakis they would be distinguished through their characteristics and life force and what not. NOT through their chakra, but Tobirama could tell this, Hashirama was also around during the Uzumaki period, yet he couldn't tell..

I find it funny you try to downplay this SENSING feat

dear god everything I said has went over your head

Tobirama would know what similar characteristics the uzumaki clan members' chakra possess as he had met up with several of them
and with that knowledge would be able to tell whether a random person is an uzumaki or not after checking his/her chakra

 

[Eishi]

I always feel very uncomfortable whenever I read a Minato fanboys' thread u_u

The man is useless even all that power he has.

 

[Gold Lightning]

No. You are missing some of Tobirama's and giving Minato feats that are not his.

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I don't get this finger thing by the way. You are assuming since Minato uses one finger he is better for some weird reason. Maybe Tobirama likes to use two? Do you think if Minato used two fingers he would sense better or something? It is merely preference.

Number three is not a confirmed feat, as Touken pointed out before non sensors sensed that chakra. Same with number two, as

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to find out Obito sneaking up on him. But this is all speculation after all, on both sides of the Minato sensing argument.

your number 1 and 3 aren't confirmed either. Tobirama just says what happens to uchiha (this might just be a knowledge thing) he didn't say he sensed it. And Tobirama couldn't sense sasuke so I don't know why you are showing me this. I didn't include that other one because it was from when he was a child and all he said is that he's a better sensor that his brother, I didn't actually see a sensing feat there.

Minato sensed Narutos chakra as well, not just Tobiramas and he could confirm by there chakra that they were working together, nothing more to it. Obito was highly skilled and sneaky, he wouldn't be detected by sound or scent, especially if he used kamui which makes him virtually a ghost. The double explanation mark and Minatos expression highly suggest that he sensed his presence behind him.

Whether minato uses 1 finger or 2, the point is that there sensing is very much even at the very least in this department. If it was the other way around and Tobirama did all these things, you guys would all hypocritically say the same thing. Just because minato doesn't boast about his sensing as much as Tobirama does doesn't mean he isn't just as good.

 

[Penguin]

your number 1 and 3 aren't confirmed either. Tobirama just says what happens to uchiha (this might just be a knowledge thing) he didn't say he sensed it. And Tobirama couldn't sense sasuke so I don't know why you are showing me this. I didn't include that other one because it was from when he was a child and all he said is that he's a better sensor that his brother, I didn't actually see a sensing feat there.

Minato sensed Narutos chakra as well, not just Tobiramas and he could confirm by there chakra that they were working together, nothing more to it. Obito was highly skilled and sneaky, he wouldn't be detected by sound or scent, especially if he used kamui which makes him virtually a ghost. The double explanation mark and Minatos expression highly suggest that he sensed his presence behind him.

Whether minato uses 1 finger or 2, the point is that there sensing is very much even at the very least in this department. If it was the other way around and Tobirama did all these things, you guys would all hypocritically say the same thing. Just because minato doesn't boast about his sensing as much as Tobirama does doesn't mean he isn't just as good.

Chakra sprouts inside the brain....he cannot see inside the brain....nor is it hinted he did brain surgery on an Uchiha....so common sense tells you he sensed it.

What the hell are you talking about? "I can't sense his chakra anymore". Tobirama sensed Sasuke's chakra while having black rods inside of him, aka not kneading chakra. Lol

From what I remember, Minato said he felt Naruto and the Kyuubi's chakra. The rest of your post is speculation.

Laughing my ass off. Most of the Minato fanbase is a joke. Implying anyone would do half the shit you do. Lol

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Minato did a good job of sensing Obito's existence.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

The bold is untrue. Naruto had to train to specifically rid himself of his own hatred, otherwise the Kyuubi would feed on it and consume him with it's hatred. The falls of truth had nothing to do with Kurama's chakra.

And Karin commented on Naruto's shining, warm chakra which I conclude was based on his personality, as Sasuke and Naruto have both opposite attitudes and chakra types.

Although in regards to chakra, I am speculating as neither was explicitly stated.

Infants don't have hatred. So if Naruto got rid of his hatred, his chakra would have reverted back to how it was when he was baby, which is, pure.