Minato's sensing >= Tobirama's sensing

[Avinash012]

Holy Christ, why would they try to sense Madara's chakra when they know nothing about his revival? lol, Taka sensed Naruto's chakra yet none of them are sensor types. Minato sensing Naruto and Kurama adds no credit to his sensing feats. The statement's clear cut.

Are u high or something? Who is talking about Madara here? Team Orochimaru was forced to feel Kyuubis chakra and it didn't happed to kages which means that it can't reach that room god damnit.Is it really that hard for u to understand? Can't u even read properly? If ***Ing team Orochimaru can feel it why can't kages? Why didn't they noticed it on their own just like team Orochimaru. Are they sleeping? & Why the hell are u riding on Kyuubis chakra nonesese when Minato clearly sensed Narutos chakra as well? Can non sesors tell whether they were fighting together or not?

Who the heck told you that? When was that ever established in the manga? Please don't pull up Naruto sensing the Juubi's chakra in Sage Mode, since sensing the Juubi's host is completely different to sensing the power of the Juubi itself.

Who in blue hell told u that Juubi being inside its host would reduce its power to make it sensable?

Because he doesn't have the goddamn feats.

Then how can u even say that he is inferior without knowing a damn thing about whether he can do it or not?

It's his freaking cells.

So what? Is there any rule he should be able to sense them easily because they are his cells? Where did u get that nonesense from?

Because all of Tobirama's sensing feats shit on Minato's sensing feats. Anything Minato's displayed, Tobirama's shown to a much better degree.

No there are not.

Why on Earth would he sense the chakra build-up in Sasuke's eyes when Sasuke is on his team? Not to menton the fact that Tobirama and Minato were discussing as to how to take down Juubito, so he clearly wasn't kneading chakra to sense. Nagato on the other hand, was always alert so that Naruto/Bee would come out of the fight unharmed.

Once again are u high or something or can't u read properly? What is Sasuke doing here? Who said that Tobirama couldn't sense chakra build up?

No. Honestly, you Minato fans don't have to establish he's better than Tobirama in every category. It's getting sick and pretty disturbing.

Yet,u'll always try to downgrade Minatos feats with lameass excuses that won't even make sense.

Call me when Minato can look deep enough into a person's body to distinguish what the person's cells are similar to, or what they actually are.

Call me when U can prove me that Minato can't pull those feats with a logical explanation not "he can't use it because he never used it BS".

 

[Gold Lightning]

What about anything he could use while alive? I guess he could do sage mode sensing after stopping movement for a while to gather senjutsu chakra, but it wouldnt be useable on demand in an instant and wouldnt last long. While tobirama has shown constant sensing from miles away.

Seems its a common thing among a certain few minito fans to desperetly try to twist manga scans to give him additional feats. We all know the feats he has and hes easily top 10, no need to make him look bad by overhyping his every attribute.

Both Tobirama and Minato need to knead chakra in order to sense anyway. Gathering senjutsu for a couple more seconds doesn't mean anything, Sage mode still gives you amazing sensing ability. Minato has shown to sense from miles away as well, or did you guys not read my first post at all? Minato's KCM no matter what anyone says was still one of his powers, that was the strongest version of Minato so it can be mentioned.

I'm not twisting anything, Minato's sensing feats are great as well. People like you just refuse to see it.

 

[Touken]

Then how can u even say that he is inferior without knowing a damn thing about whether he can do it or not?

This right here explains why you think Minato can replicate Tobirama's feats, because "hurr durr we haven't seen him do it doesn't mean he can't do it". Holy shit, in that case, Udon can use the Rasengan.

If they haven't shown the feats, it means they can't do X until they actually show feats of doing X.

 

[Gold Lightning]

This right here explains why you think Minato can replicate Tobirama's feats, because "hurr durr we haven't seen him do it doesn't mean he can't do it". Holy shit, in that case, Udon can use the Rasengan.

If they haven't shown the feats, it means they can't do X until they actually show feats of doing X.

Tobirama has shown no edo tensei summoning feats yet in every vs thread he's allowed to summon no named edo fodders that we have no information about, but of course Tobirama fans think this is totally acceptable.

 

[Touken]

Tobirama has shown no edo tensei summoning feats yet in every vs thread he's allowed to summon no named edo fodders that we have no information about, but of course Tobirama fans think this is totally acceptable.

Because he's actually used Edo shinobi for crying out loud. It doesn't matter who the hell he summons, the fact that he's actually summoned a shinobi means he's used ET.

 

[Avinash012]

This right here explains why you think Minato can replicate Tobirama's feats, because "hurr durr we haven't seen him do it doesn't mean he can't do it". Holy shit, in that case, Udon can use the Rasengan.

If they haven't shown the feats, it means they can't do X until they actually show feats of doing X.

Horrible example:Udon has nothing to with Rasengan but Minato clearly is a sensor type ninja. No one is blind enough to say that Minato can use tsukuyomi even though we know that he is not an Uchiha. Minato is a Sensor and So is Tobirama and on top of that their ability works with same principle and we have similar feat namely finger sensing from them . We are only asking u to tell us the logical reasons as to why Minato cannot pull those feats even though he is a sensor type ninja just like Tobirama.I definitely don't remember anyone/Minato saying that he isn't good at Senjutsu then why is this guy inferior to other sensors even when is nothing that suggests that he is?

 

[Touken]

Horrible example:Udon has nothing to with Rasengan but Minato clearly is a sensor type ninja. No one is blind enough to say that Minato can use tsukuyomi even though we know that he is not an Uchiha. Minato is a Sensor and So is Tobirama and on top of that their ability works with same principle and we have similar feats from them such as finger sensing. We are only asking u to tell us the logical reasons as to why Minato cannot pull those feats even though he is a sensor type ninja just like Tobirama.I definitely don't remember anyone/Minato saying that he isn't good at Senjutsu then why is this guy inferior to other sensors even when is nothing that suggests that he is?

Oh, my bad, I guess Shee's as good as Tobirama then Lol I don't wanna waste my time on "logical reasons" when Minato hasn't displayed sensing feats of Tobirama's calibre.

This is my last reply on this thread, so don't bother replying to me.

 

[WolfHaley]

Much fanfiction in this thread, especially those Sage mode feats he doesn't have.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

"He can sense the genetic make-up of a person"

Hahhaa made my day

 

[Avinash012]

Oh, my bad, I guess Shee's as good as Tobirama then Lol I don't wanna waste my time on "logical reasons" when Minato hasn't displayed sensing feats of Tobirama's calibre.

This is my last reply on this thread.

And why can't he be on his level? Is it because he is just a random fodder?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Tobirama has the ability to not only sense multiple people but also their chakra just by touching the ground with his finger.Minato is a good sensor but not as good as Tobirama.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Much fanfiction in this thread, especially those Sage mode feats he doesn't have.

Its an ability that comes with Perfect Sage Mode. You become one with nature and can sense all around you, please use common sense.

 

[Bogard]

Oh, my bad, I guess Shee's as good as Tobirama then Lol I don't wanna waste my time on "logical reasons" when Minato hasn't displayed sensing feats of Tobirama's calibre.

This is my last reply on this thread, so don't bother replying to me.

Better feats? In what exactly Tobirama is even showed to be better? Having more showcase in terms of sensing =/= better

1- Sensing countries away? Both did the same. I don't get the downplay around Minato's feat here

2- Finger sensing? Both could use it. If i were to playing the downplay card some Tobirama fans want to play with Minato however i'd say his feat was even better considering the point of focus was only 1finger for Minato instead of 2

3- Can identify people's clan through their chakra? Like i've said it's not a sensing feat but a knowledge feat

Knowing one's clan isn't a sensing feat. Every sensor can recognise one's chakra. Now majority of members of a clan have a personal type of chakra. The sensor capable to recognise one's chakra would then be capable to know the clan as well if he has knowledge on their chakra type

4- Minato sensed Jubi's chakra in base, Tobirama didn't. Why downplay this feat once again? Because it's not Tobirama? Naruto even mentioned once again when he hit Jubito with his rasengan that he earlier(pointing out to when he was in Sage Mode) sensed Jubi's power was made of natural energy. Notice he says earlier, implying it's the only moment he managed to sense his chakra before. Minato on the other hand managed to sense Jubi's power in both Obito and Madara and even compare which one is stronger

Let's not accuse fanboyism in everything when something can be explained/argued rationally

 

[Avinash012]

Much fanfiction in this thread, especially those Sage mode feats he doesn't have.

Is that all u can say? As far as I know none of us are trying to give him unknown abilities that came from our imagination so our claims are far different from fanfics and more importantly we were using manga proofs to support our claims.If what we were doing is illogical and makes no sense then feel free to enlighten us with ur logical reasons.It shouldn't be that hard for logical members such as ur self to kill our arguments with manga proofs if our points are nothing more than fanfics.

 

[Specific]

Tobirama's Sensing > Minato's sensing.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Tobirama has the ability to not only sense multiple people but also their chakra just by touching the ground with his finger.Minato is a good sensor but not as good as Tobirama.

Because Minato cannot do this :nuts:

You people are ridiculous.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Better feats? In what exactly Tobirama is even showed to be better? Having more showcase in terms of sensing =/= better

1- Sensing countries away? Both did the same. I don't get the downplay around Minato's feat here

2- Finger sensing? Both could use it. If i were to playing the downplay card some Tobirama fans want to play with Minato however i'd say his feat was even better considering the point of focus was only 1finger for Minato instead of 2

3- Can identify people's clan through their chakra? Like i've said it's not a sensing feat but a knowledge feat


4- Minato sensed Jubi's chakra in base, Tobirama didn't. Why downplay this feat once again? Because it's not Tobirama? Naruto even mentioned once again when he hit Jubito with his rasengan that he earlier(pointing out to when he was in Sage Mode) sensed Jubi's power was made of natural energy. Notice he says earlier, implying it's the only moment he managed to sense his chakra before. Minato on the other hand managed to sense Jubi's power in both Obito and Madara and even compare which one is stronger

Let's not accuse fanboyism in everything when something can be explained/argued rationally

Hashirama did the same thing and he was'nt a better sensor than Tobirama.Without SM enhancing his sensing Minato is slightly below Tobiram when it comes to being a sensor.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Because Minato cannot do this :nuts:

You people are ridiculous.

I just said Minato was good at sensing...

Next time read the full post before going off at me.

 

[Specific]

Minato shows a sensing feat and the Minato fapboys are making wall of text threads and outnumbering the viewers in an attempt to overwhelm them while spouting nothing but fanfiction and bias?

Classic Minato fans. smh.

 

[Touken]

Better feats? In what exactly Tobirama is even showed to be better? Having more showcase in terms of sensing =/= better

1- Sensing countries away? Both did the same. I don't get the downplay around Minato's feat here

2- Finger sensing? Both could use it. If i were to playing the downplay card some Tobirama fans want to play with Minato however i'd say his feat was even better considering the point of focus was only 1finger for Minato instead of 2

3- Can identify people's clan through their chakra? Like i've said it's not a sensing feat but a knowledge feat

The only relevant point there is #3, so I'm gonna address that. It's been shown clear as day that Tobirama can actually sense the chakra within cells of a shinobi [

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]. Every sensor can recognize chakra, but that doesn't give them enough information to allow the sensor to group the shinobi with a particular clan. They have to look deeper, evidenced by Hashirama not knowing about Karin's Uzumaki heritage even though he married and banged an Uzumaki, and yet he's a sensor. Minato also married and banged an Uzumaki but he didn't comment on Karin being an Uzumaki. You have 2 feats there of Tobirama sensing the chakra of cells, where's Minato's feats regarding this?