minatos s/t is superior to tobis

[freakazoidgangsta]

hey guys im making this thread to prove that minatos s/t jutsu is superior to tobis in a battle scenario.while minatos jutsu requiring him to tag the places he wants to telport to has traditionally been a drawback i think i9ts only a drawback when were talking about teleporting for the sake of getting to places and convience in which then tobis s/t jutsu would be superier.but in a battle throwing a kunai is no big issue and rather easy to accomplish plus tagging his enemy isnt that hard either.then minatos s/t jutsu really shines.

hes s/t jutsu is fatser than tobis.when tobi teleports he takes a while meanwhile minatos jutsu takes no time at all and is considerably faster when in a battle enviroment.tobi cant use the teleportation part of his s/t jutsu in battle at all really since he has to materialise when teleporting anbd since he takes a while to teleport it gives his opponents a window to attack.he cant teleport to dodge say a kunai since it takes too long and he materializes,this is why he always uses intaganbility but were talking about the teleportation only.meanwhile in a battle where even seconds matter minatos super fast s/t jutsu which isnt alot fatser than tobis but in the enviroment of a battle it is clearly superior.hes si fast he can dodge kunas and other projectiles with his s/t teleportation while tobi would have to go intangible.

so pretty much cos of minatos jutsus speed which really matters in a battle his jutsu is more versatile than tobis s/t teleportation in a battle.tobis s/t is only good for getting to places an area which it surpases minato in but in a battle its too slow and makes him vulnerable.also throwing kunais around and tagging his oppenent are no big deal in a battle especially for minato a hokage.even if he cant tag his opponenets im sure hell manage to throw a few kunais giving a place to teleport to for safety.

 

[Ōkami]

what makes Minato's far superior is the fact if he touches you and marks you with his seal your done he can teleport to you instantly

 

[SeriouslyNO]

I agree

 

[freakazoidgangsta]

yeah but even tobi can do that without tagging anyone.but yeh once he tags u he can just teleport behind you and stab with a kunai ill be sure to add that in my post.once ur tagged its game over.

 

[Gatsuuga]

Minato said it himself, Tobi's S/t is better. Think about it this way if Tobi and Minato were standing together and Zetsu said to have a race to see who can S/t 3km north the fastest who do you think would win? Tobi since his S/t time doesn't require seals for him to move around the battlefield.

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Edit - I will add that Tobi's 'ghost mode' is also part of his teleportation. The instant something comes in contact with his body that part is sent to the other dimension. So thats a form of instantaneous teleportation as well. Minato simply out smarted (with plot on his side) Tobi in their fight, if Tobi had of been 'ghost' the whole time then minato would have gone straight through him.

 

[genii96]

Minato says tobi's own is better,kakashi claims tobi's own is better,fanboys say tobi's own isnt better. SuprisingU_U

 

[nataku]

no doubt about it!

 

[freakazoidgangsta]

well yes thats in a situation were the whole seal thing would be a hassle but in a battle where throwing around a sealed kunai is no problem and tagging someone isnt a challenge either seeing minatos experience and prowess in this field.ownce that downside is eliminated minatos jutsu is clearly superior i said it before only in the battlefield.in a battle speed is crucial and the speed of minatos s/t when put in the perspective of a battle is crucially faster than tobis which lets minato use his s/t to do things that ***i cant use his for in a battle e.g dodging a kunai.thats just an example but u get the point its more versatile.

 

[Lentz]

Well, who won in Tobi vs Minato fight? I thought this was decided a while ago.

 

[freakazoidgangsta]

minato won but to be honest it wasnt an accurate depiction of whose better.i think tobi is a better fighter over all but i think in a battle situation minatos jutsu is better than tobis for the aforementioned reasons.

 

[Turson]

Tobis Kamui > FTG

Teleportation without seals + ability to slip through things > teleportation with seals, even if its faster.

 

[partha420]

I read the op and I agree.

 

[Blaze Release]

Tobi's is better, it should be clear by how the two work. Secondly minato was the deciding factor in that fight and not his s/t ability. Remember that a technique/ability is only as effective as the user. Also note that the original ftg didnt work on tobi and he was forced to pull off an advanced version which is v2. Teleporting to a moving object (his kunai) which gave him the unpredictability that he didnt have with the original ftg to defeat tobi

 

[silmarill]

Tobi's is better because he dotn have to place seals
But Minato's is alot more instant , in other words Minato's is faster

 

[freakazoidgangsta]

ok look in this comparison where not talking about intangibilty its just about teleportation.blaze release u confuse the shit outta me!theres no such thing as v1 and v2 research your stuff before you somment. and silmarill no shit sherlock!!thats what we have all been saying all along.and with that i once again say minatos teleportation jutsu is superior to tobis teleportation jutsu in the enviroment of a battle in which minatos has more versatility to be used in a battle.now if anyone else has anything else to say please let it be sophisticated and well researched or atleast not completely stupid!

 

[Turson]

ok look in this comparison where not talking about intangibilty its just about teleportation.

Sorry, but ability to slip through objects is also part of Obitos Kamui. So you cant really say that Minato is more skilled in s/t techniques than Obito. His teleportation is simply faster, thats all.

 

[Gatsuuga]

ok look in this comparison where not talking about intangibilty its just about teleportation.blaze release u confuse the shit outta me!theres no such thing as v1 and v2 research your stuff before you somment. and silmarill no shit sherlock!!thats what we have all been saying all along.and with that i once again say minatos teleportation jutsu is superior to tobis teleportation jutsu in the enviroment of a battle in which minatos has more versatility to be used in a battle.now if anyone else has anything else to say please let it be sophisticated and well researched or atleast not completely stupid!

Regardless of whether you think placing or moving seals around the battlefield is an issue for Minato is irrelevant since it is still a factor that Minato has to deal with. Tobi's version doesn't come with this added baggage, he doesn't even have to consider it. Also what could be more versatile in battle then S/t techniques that make any and all attacks slip right through you.

Also there are grades to FTG, so Blaze Release is correct. Telling him that there isn't and that he should go do research is not something that makes you look clever. Not flaming, just saying.

 

[Blaze Release]

Wow the op went ham on me and Silmaril. He tells others to do their research yet he doesnt know tobi's s/t ability well enough.
Secondly op there are versions to ftg. The original is teleporting to a stationary object his kunai. The second stage is to a moving object, his kunai

 

[freakazoidgangsta]

well look i may of come across a little wrong sorry to those i have offended.well firstly minato doesnt boldy state that his jutsu has levels does he?i could be wrong but im pretty sure that he doesnt boldy state it and anyway theres no difference between teleporting to a miving object or a stationary one.my comment to silmaril i stand by it may of seemed rude or inappropraite and i apologize for that but i hate it when people state the obvious or state what weve all been saying the entire time.now i stand by blaze int he whole a jutsu is only as good as its user and i agree that as a whole tobis s/t is better.but ill say this for the hundredth time for satsuugas sake firstly were not including intanagability just teleportation im the owner of this thread and yeah teleportation only also my point is that since in a battle field throwing a kunai is no big deal and isnt extremely unconvient that bascicall eliminates tobis s/t jutsus advatage.minato doesnt need a place to teleport tot o hid he just need somewhere to teleport to to dodge attacks the eleport back.sor gods sake he can just tag where his feet are standidng on and teleport back to konoha to dodge a kunai or a punch or anything and then teleport back once its done.or he can throw a random kunai soemwhere else.besides even if that were to be a big deal as you say its still better than tobis too long to teleport s/t plus like i said he becomes solid when teleporting so yeah MASSIVE window for his opponenets to instantly kill him.minatos jtsu has no such drawbacks.so yeah i stand by what i said earlier in a battle where throwing kunais is bascially not a disadvantage but speed is a massive advantage minatos jutsu would be more useful and practical

 

[freakazoidgangsta]

sorry for my long post there are just alot of things to address