Minato's reflexes compared to a Sharingan user

[Kαmi]

Kakashi an itachi are not just 3t users they are ms users..besides people hate hearing the sharingan nowadays so they just go against it.

An anybody who is fast is going to have good reaction time or good reflexes the sharingan allows you to see the opponents movements meaning better reaction time they bodies just need to have the speed to dodge it.

I know that but I mean the qualities of 3T, being MS users don't make them any better at using 3T. Another thing is that I acknowledge that the sharingan allows you to see movement, but doesn't that kind of give them a bigger advantage to dodging since they have more reaction time? I think Minato would have better reflexes since he has the speed to dodge it and can't see movement like 3T but can still dodge and counter.

 

[Yatori]

Well minato fought with obito once.. obito surely can predict where the attack coming but minato reflect still faster that obito lost that fight.. so its obvious minato relfect better than sharigan user

 

[kotoamatsukami]

I know that but I mean the qualities of 3T, being MS users don't make them any better at using 3T. Another thing is that I acknowledge that the sharingan allows you to see movement, but doesn't that kind of give them a bigger advantage to dodging since they have more reaction time? I think Minato would have better reflexes since he has the speed to dodge it and can't see movement like 3T but can still dodge and counter.

Minato has space time ninjutsu witch is better than sharingan in dodgeing situations cuz all he has to do is teleport he does not have to try an move to the side or duck from anything..Like basically as soon as minato seen the raikage move he teleported where as with sharingan you actually have to dodge idk it's like even I guess..

When minato saves kakashi from being killed by that one guy In the pic posted in the thread that's nothing itachi can do that with out sharingan an kakashi, it's like when kakashi saves Sakura from being hit by sasuke chidori..they all have incredible speed it's like you never see kakashi,itachi,or minato get hit physically in a 1on1 fight unless there vision gets blocked.. Like I said its even u guess

 

[ThomasJeffersonwasasadist]

Minato has space time ninjutsu witch is better than sharingan in dodgeing situations cuz all he has to do is teleport he does not have to try an move to the side or duck from anything..Like basically as soon as minato seen the raikage move he teleported where as with sharingan you actually have to dodge idk it's like even I guess..

When minato saves kakashi from being killed by that one guy In the pic posted in the thread that's nothing itachi can do that with out sharingan an kakashi, it's like when kakashi saves Sakura from being hit by sasuke chidori..they all have incredible speed it's like you never see kakashi,itachi,or minato get hit physically in a 1on1 fight unless there vision gets blocked.. Like I said its even u guess

Those are relative situations. You can't judge how far away kakashi was when he caught that chidori. You comparing kakashi's reflexes to minato's is wrong even itachi doesn't have the same base speed/reflexes.

 

[Kαmi]

Minato has space time ninjutsu witch is better than sharingan in dodgeing situations cuz all he has to do is teleport he does not have to try an move to the side or duck from anything..Like basically as soon as minato seen the raikage move he teleported where as with sharingan you actually have to dodge idk it's like even I guess..

When minato saves kakashi from being killed by that one guy In the pic posted in the thread that's nothing itachi can do that with out sharingan an kakashi, it's like when kakashi saves Sakura from being hit by sasuke chidori..they all have incredible speed it's like you never see kakashi,itachi,or minato get hit physically in a 1on1 fight unless there vision gets blocked.. Like I said its even u guess

That's true but FTG doesn't give him the ability to notice and then react to A's speed, that's all Minato's doing. Also, I don't think Minato's dodge of the A is not as simple as you put it. In that one scan, Minato acknowledged the Raikage's movement, threw his kunai vertical to his position after noticing A's movement, waited til the last second before teleporting and then teleporting back to the same position going in for the kill. A sharingan doesn't give the user reflexes like those, Minato was also able to take on a 3T/MS user without being touched and reacting faster than Obito.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Minato probably has the highest base speed in Naruto ( no raiton, gates, KCM, Cursed Seal etc. )

 

[YellowFang]

Reflexes get better with the increment in ones speed...
Sharingan only allow this feat to even a disabled person...
Since, Minato moves with fastest speeds in NV he should be able to maintain his balance which requires eye-precision...

Thus, Minato's eye-precision is hundred times that of a sharingan user...

 

[kotoamatsukami]

That's true but FTG doesn't give him the ability to notice and then react to A's speed, that's all Minato's doing. Also, I don't think Minato's dodge of the A is not as simple as you put it. In that one scan, Minato acknowledged the Raikage's movement, threw his kunai vertical to his position after noticing A's movement, waited til the last second before teleporting and then teleporting back to the same position going in for the kill. A sharingan doesn't give the user reflexes like those, Minato was also able to take on a 3T/MS user without being touched and reacting faster than Obito.

Yea he does not need to see ur movements as soon as he sees any slight of movement he can just teleport...He had no choice but to dodge A's hit at the last second A was at his face as soon as he moved you don't need reflexese if you can teleport..look back to where kakashi first fought itachi,itachi used a shadow clone at the speed of lightning like it was rediculous also when he used his shadow clone while having a shuriken fight with sasuke there's no way you can say minato has better reflexes than itachi Mabey kakashi but not itachi...

As for him vs orbito,orbito was never said to be a speedy guy an yea he reacted faster than orbito sharingan can't follow ur movements if you teleport but if he wer to fight orbito useing only his reagular speed he would have never hit him..like when A rushed orbito at the kage summit at his full speed orbito sharingan was able to catch his movements so A went right threw him that shows you the sharingan is on par with ftg I guess.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Reflexes get better with the increment in ones speed...
Sharingan only allow this feat to even a disabled person...
Since, Minato moves with fastest speeds in NV he should be able to maintain his balance which requires eye-precision...

Thus, Minato's eye-precision is hundred times that of a sharingan user...

I wouldn't say that, but Minato reacted to Prime A's V2 speed while Sasuke wasn't keeping up with him, even with his MS.

 

[JyuubiNaruto]

I definitely can say i can see Minato going toe to toe with Madara

 

[Raikiri10]

I think Minato's reflexes are far superior then normal MS reflexes considering Minato could dodge Raikage at full speed when Sasuke whom had his MS activated couldn't even follow him.

 

[YellowFang]

I wouldn't say that, but Minato reacted to Prime A's V2 speed while Sasuke wasn't keeping up with him, even with his MS.

Simple science...
A normal eye can perceive a speed of around 80 m/s...
And Sharingan does more, around 150 m/s(assumption/exaggeration)

If that normal eye is moving at 120 m/s speed, precision would be 9600 m/s...
And for sharingan moving at 120 m/s, it's precision would be 18000 m/s...

Minato while using FTG surpasses the speed of light... thus he can react to speeds faster than that, if their is any...

Hence, Sharingan is like child's play compared to that...

 

[pateuvasiliu]

You used formulas I don't understand so I will trust you.

 

[YellowFang]

You used formulas I don't understand so I will trust you.

LOL....
it's just that higher the speed goes higher gets the reflexes and with a person moving at huge speeds, it's easy that he must have unrivaled reflexes...

 

[BloodSeed]

people who say its because of the flying thunder god/ if tenten got ftg needs to reread the manga, lol if tenten got ftg then she would become much slower than evadung in a normal way.

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because of minatos reflexes and speed he can do ftg better than 3 shinobi put together

 

[Untung]

Make it clear this thread, reflexes agains sharingan? Reflexes again speed? Or speed agains sharingan??

Obito vs 4th this is speed fight ( minato is faster than obito )
Lee vs sasuke this is speed fight
A vs minato is speed fight
Raikage vs naruto biju mode is speed fight

Naruto sage mode vs edo raikage is reflexes fight

Don't trusme read the manga again........
My opinoin is sharingan < lightning raikage < tfg/naruto BM in speed, so reflexes is just for a counter

 

[shelke]

How are you making this assumption? The Sharingan only gives a window, the reflex speed is entirely dependent upon the use. Without FTG, and Body Flicker, Minato's base speed would be extremely slow in comparison to his FTG techniques. If his reflex speed was so quick, h wouldn't have been caught in Obito's chains and used FTG to teleport himself out.

 

[Bogard]

Manga already answered this:

- Obito with MangeKyou Sharingan was incapable not only to touch Minato in time(Minato warped himself behind him faster than him touching him despite Sharingan's precognition), but while appearing behind him, he had time to smash a rasengan on him before he even got the time to instantaneously teleport his body in the other dimension

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This scene clearly shows his reflexes are nothing to compared to mere sharingan users

 

[silmarill]

How are you making this assumption? The Sharingan only gives a window, the reflex speed is entirely dependent upon the use. Without FTG, and Body Flicker, Minato's base speed would be extremely slow in comparison to his FTG techniques. If his reflex speed was so quick, h wouldn't have been caught in Obito's chains and used FTG to teleport himself out.

:|everyone's base speed is extremely slow compared too FTG, its friggin teleportation...

 

[Owarij]

You can't generalize the reflex level of all sharigan users into one... As each person will have a different level of reflexes and syndesis movement

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This scan shows that Itachi's reflexes are above that of Sasuke's , since Itachi reacted to the act fast enough to protect Sasuke, while Sasuke didn't..


You can't put all "sharingan" users into one category...Sharingan simply acts as an aiding tool dependent on your already existing reflexes