Minato's reaction speed against Madara?

[Thundergod123]

Minato's reaction speed against Madara? But before I start asking my question, then I have to make sure that we need to see what Minato was capable off.

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Look here. Well, Minato's reaction speed essentially is what made him hokage. It's what allowed him to use Hiraishin so effectively and gave him the name The Konoha's Yellow Flash. Remember his fight with Obito, like this pics above? He allowed Obito to touch him and in the instant, but Obito was realizing that Minato had already used Hiraishin and smashed a Rasengan into Obito. So it's no wonder why Minato's reaction speed surpasses most of shinobis out there.

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Okay, we know that Minato is faster than Ay or simply the fastest shinobi who has ever lived. Here, you can see ay tried to use his top speed to react Minato, however it seems Minato was the one to react first before Ay started his attack.

Someone here might ask why he did not react to Madara's staff and his kick? Well, before that I want to explain why.

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People will somehow claim that Guy is faster than Minato's reaction speed? Well, just take a good look on this pics.
Minato has superior reaction speeds than Guy
Guy has superior raw speed
S/T is another story

It's not hard to understand. The issue with this statement is that Guy wasn't in on the plan. Minato made it after he started his attack. Minato intercepted Madara's attack and vanished, and Guy was moving faster by getting closer between the two panels. Minato managed to get in and out of Gai's way while he was moving at 8 gates speed.

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Now, to my point.
Here you can see Madara predicted Minato's movements. Madara was also wide open for Minato to strike.

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Here, you can see Madara did cut Minato's arm before Minato was ready to hit him with a Senjutsu Rasengan. So, we're talking about the speed it takes for Minato to initiate Hiraishin basically. So, you guys may ask how Madara was able to counter Minato?
Even though, people will just say Madara was just faster than him because he got the power from Juubi, Hashirama's Sage Mode and Rinnegan, It's true however...

The thing about Goken speeds and dojutsu, the dojutsu can perceive them usually, but regardless of whether or not the dojutsu user can see it, if their body isn't fast enough to react, then it's meaningless. Nothing displayed yet is faster than Hiraishin no jutsu as used by Minato. But when Minato is outside of Hiraishin he is vulnerable. However his ability to trigger Hiraishin is unsurpassed. Madara wouldn't react faster than that.

That is him instantly teleporting to a position and instantly teleporting away from it. Ya, he can teleport faster than Gai could move, but that's not reaction speed. That's just the nature of having FTG, it's instant which can never be outpaced. That's the reason why he got his arm cutted and kicked by Madara.

One more thing, the issue with Obito and Madara being Juubi's Jinchuriki was that they were faster than him in real space, when he was not teleporting. Minato has to move at his peak physical speed when not teleporting, which while obscenely fast.


What do you guys actually think, agree or not?

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Minato wasn't fast enough to attack, and didn't have the reactions, even with two-bit sage mode to evade.

 

[Thundergod123]

Minato wasn't fast enough to attack, and didn't have the reactions, even with two-bit sage mode to evade.

Read my post.

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

finally some 1 with brain. yup minato is only instantaneous when he is using hirashin no jutsu. but outside of that he is still fast in movement but not faster than Jubi jin and 8th gate guy. Minato does have fastest reflexes excluding jubi jinchuriki though. so by saying this after minato appeared infornt of rikudo madara he sure was fast and making rashingan but that split second was more than enough for madara to stage a counter attack. This same madara was later trumped by 8th gate guy because he was faster than jubi jin in real space hand , feet movement.

 

[Im Still Robin]

I agree, only people will power linked to the sage himself can only touch minato is basically what you said. That or its what it basically comes down to if you want to even beat Minato.

 

[Memento Mori]

Yes Good Explanation.....Only Juubi Jinks can touch him or Shinobi's with Power of Juubi

 

[YellowFang]

That thing is generally categorized as striking speed...
Being Juubi hosts, both Obito and Madara were not only moving very very fast physically but could land a hit on someone before he even realizes that the enemy is there...

Just like,
Minato reaction speed + striking speed -> Damaged a Kamui user in the smallest of the time slot available...

And Juubi hosts can react and strike just as fast as if they are Minato and real Minato is Obito in such case...

 

[Thundergod123]

That thing is generally categorized as striking speed...
Being Juubi hosts, both Obito and Madara were not only moving very very fast physically but could land a hit on someone before he even realizes that the enemy is there...

Just like,
Minato reaction speed + striking speed -> Damaged a Kamui user in the smallest of the time slot available...

And Juubi hosts can react and strike just as fast as if they are Minato and real Minato is Obito in such case...

The fact is, when Minato teleports which is instant makes his attack like Rasengan for not being fast enough like his own FTG, as you can see from my first pics and the 4th one. You can't really challenge Minato with speed movement which is also difficult to catch, however when Minato aims for a strike by using FTG then he is vulnerable as you can see when he was about to strike Madara, but in second Madara sensed him and quickly cutted his arm. Everyone can counter Minato when he is about to teleport against you, even though you also need sensing abilities to counter him.

 

[Thundergod123]

Yes Good Explanation.....Only Juubi Jinks can touch him or Shinobi's with Power of Juubi

This post was not just about Juubi's jinchuriki.... Whenever Minato aims for a Rasengan attack by using FTG beside his opponent, then you can predict his movement, then he cannot teleport any longer at least your attack is faster than him plus your sensing abilities will be able to sense what kind of attack he is aiming for.

 

[YellowFang]

The fact is, when Minato teleports which is instant makes his attack like Rasengan for not being fast enough like his own FTG, as you can see from my first pics and the 4th one. You can't really challenge Minato with speed movement which is also difficult to catch, however when Minato aims for a strike by using FTG then he is vulnerable as you can see when he was about to strike Madara, but in second Madara sensed him and quickly cutted his arm. Everyone can counter Minato when he is about to teleport against you, even though you also need sensing abilities to counter him.

Precisely, that's why you've to be either Juubi host or a Kamui user[If Minato attacks head on] to avoid getting hit by Minato...

 

[Thundergod123]

Precisely, that's why you've to be either Juubi host or a Kamui user[If Minato attacks head on] to avoid getting hit by Minato...

Yes, but you have to remember as well that Shinra Tensei can actually counter him. There's no way to counter Shinra Tensei except from other powerful techs like Bijuus attack. Minato being the fastest ninja is still very fast, however during the moment he strikes you, then sensing skills and faster attack than his Rasengan will somehow help the user.

 

[minatoisagod]

it does make sense i just always used according to the plot explanation.