minato's intelligence > itachi's intelligence

[blake spartan]

Itachi bought Tobi = Madara wholeheartedly, yet Minato did not.

can you try to make sence plz

 

[Fearmonger]

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[blake spartan]

This is pointless. I will however say that some of the quotes from itachi baffles even me and majority of his quotes can be applied IRL

sure its pointless we get nothing from making these threads but since kishi won't say wuz beter its up in the air meaning its for us to decide is'nt it?

 

[iMicLykTyson]

Lol at the gathering of the itachi haters :rofl:

 

[Solaris Vexius]

Can u minato fanboys stop this? Itachi's intelligence>>>>Minato's

 

[Gin-San]

I never actually care about their plans were, as they deal with human life, which is completely variable. I care more about the tactics and intelligence they have shown with their techniques, and how they developed.

To be honest, I see Minato as being much more intelligent. He developed techniques under his own hand, with studies and such. He was able to create a Space/Time technique by bending space itself, if that isn't remarkable, I don't know what it is. He is also able to figure the strengths and weaknesses of a technique by watching it once, which has been shown twice in the case of Kakashi and Tobi. Itachi though, was given good genetics with sharingan, and all fire techniques were created beforehand, he doesn't really show that much intelligence in development, but talent.

In battle tactics, I give them an equal. They are both capable of being completely efficient in their plans, and deal with the situation with the less risk.

I see Itachi more as the philosophical type, while Minato the "scientific" type, if you know what I mean. Both are gifted and highly intelligent, but Minato's intelligence is much more "useful" in terms of battles and such.

If I would rate their intelligence, Minato would have a 10, and Itachi a 9.6-9.8

Can't Minato excel in something? It seems Itachi NEEDS to be the strongest, most intelligent, most talented, fastest and don't know what else.

 

[Frikid]

all of minato's decision were good.

all of itachi's decision were fail.

He failed to protect his bro.
He failed to protect konoha.
He failed to stop orochimaru.
He helped the akatsuki ~

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Minato :
SAved the village.
Sealed himself,and never got used as edo tensei.
Taught hiruzen repaer death seal , which further helped in protecting the village from oro and not being able to use hashi/tobirama/hiruzen as edo again.
Sealed some of his chakra and kushina's chakra in naruto which helped him alot.
Maintained the balance of nations.
He trusted naruto, and naruto is one saving the day.

 

[Munboy]

can you try to make sence plz

Everybody ranging from Jiraiya, to Danzo to even the genius Itachi believed that Tobi is in fact Madara Uchiha.

Why is it that Kishimoto only had Minato (not Itachi) doubt Tobi is Madara? Why have Minato be the only character to doubt Tobi's identity has Madara?

This was before Kabuto started dropping clues that Tobi wasn't Madara. Before Tobi announced he was actually 'no-one'.

Clearly there is a difference between Itachi and Minato's brain power.
Itachi saw things and sensed things which were like Madara, so he only deduced it could only be Madara. On the other hand, Minato retained his sceptical stance.

Whose hunch paid off? Well that can be answered by asking yourself: "am I certain Tobi is Madara?" Yes = Itachi's brain power was better; no = Minato's was better.

Of course I'm not counting other aspects like how Minato had the capacity to create jutsu such as Hiraishin and Shikifuujin. Itachi has done nothing comparable.

 

[Kinimaster]

Everybody ranging from Jiraiya, to Danzo to even the genius Itachi believed that Tobi is in fact Madara Uchiha.

Why is it that Kishimoto only had Minato (not Itachi) doubt Tobi is Madara? Why have Minato be the only character to doubt Tobi's identity has Madara?

This was before Kabuto started dropping clues that Tobi wasn't Madara. Before Tobi announced he was actually 'no-one'.

Clearly there is a difference between Itachi and Minato's brain power.
Itachi saw things and sensed things which were like Madara, so he only deduced it could only be Madara. On the other hand, Minato retained his sceptical stance.

Whose hunch paid off? Well that can be answered by asking yourself: "am I certain Tobi is Madara?" Yes = Itachi's brain power was better; no = Minato's was better.

Of course I'm not counting other aspects like how Minato had the capacity to create jutsu such as Hiraishin and Shikifuujin. Itachi has done nothing comparable.

Itachi always knew that the masked mas wan Tobi.

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[repulse]

You simply cannot compare a Lamborghini to a Ferrari. Both are distinct cars. Apply it to this thread as you wish.

 

[Munboy]

Itachi always knew that the masked mas wan Tobi.

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That is at best 'reaching'.

Itachi thinks to himself when Naruto mentions the truth that Madara knew the details about the murder. Same when he tells Sasuke who the Akatsuki leader is.
Itachi's memories show he knows Tobi is an Uchiha with a grudge against Konoha; Itachi tells Sasuke that Tobi = Madara based on the power in his eyes.

The author clearly hammers it home that no-one, but Minato, even doubted that Tobi was Madara. That doesn't include the people who has particular information such as Kabuto, nor does it include people who had to see Madara himself such as Naruto.

In short: Itachi's genius was far inferior to Minato's in this case - it conformed to the others. Minato was the only genius to doubt the the face value of "he does Madara like things so he must be Madara".

Though looking at it all, none of their intelligence levels would be all that great if the mask never factored into their thoughts.

 

[enditallsin]

this is obvious....and i hate them both with a passion

 

[Maunten]

People will disagree, it's a matter of opinion unless a universal scale is agreed upon.

 

[Kinimaster]

That is at best 'reaching'.

Itachi thinks to himself when Naruto mentions the truth that Madara knew the details about the murder. Same when he tells Sasuke who the Akatsuki leader is.
Itachi's memories show he knows Tobi is an Uchiha with a grudge against Konoha; Itachi tells Sasuke that Tobi = Madara based on the power in his eyes.

The author clearly hammers it home that no-one, but Minato, even doubted that Tobi was Madara. That doesn't include the people who has particular information such as Kabuto, nor does it include people who had to see Madara himself such as Naruto.

In short: Itachi's genius was far inferior to Minato's in this case - it conformed to the others. Minato was the only genius to doubt the the face value of "he does Madara like things so he must be Madara".

Though looking at it all, none of their intelligence levels would be all that great if the mask never factored into their thoughts.

I dont want to turn this into a Itachi vs Minato debate, but everything you posted is assuming Itachi wasnt purposely lying to Sasuke about it, also you have to take into account the time where Itachi talked to Sasuke, Tobi being Madara was by far one of the most important subjects, Kishi is not going to ruin all the mystery and discard the Madara option at that time, in regards to Minato, its true he succeded but somehow that plan was kinda easy and selfguided from the start of Kushina dying, so i dont find it that great at all, he completely not knowing if Tobi was Madara, that you find genius? lol, he was in the middle of a fight he didnt even care, he just replied to his own questioning "no matter who you are im going to defeat you", the circumstances were not appropiate for an a personality/background analysis, im pretty sure he would come to the conclusion he is indeed Madara. Also you should really check whats the definition of intelligence as there are several of them which measure different capabilties, IMO and just my opinion i find Itachi to be more intelligent than Minato because of a lot of reasons, the way he fights, the things he preach, his extremely fast growth, he was probably the best student in the academy, the amount of panel time he gets lecturing characters way older than him despite him not being the protagonist and the fact that almost every knowleadgable character such as Tobi/Kisame/Danzo/Oro/Kakashi and Kabuto knew he was a prodigy in another level. Minato mostly gets praise by Jiraiya and Kakashi, who were really close to him. Anyway i dont see fit to continue posting in this thread because the way i think about the subject is very clear, at the least lets agree to disagree.

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Nah both are smart, both are smart
Itachi is smarter though

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

I already knew that

 

[kakashi owns all]

has we all know minato and itachi are awesome ninja (minato more than itachi) but this is not a vs thread so let me explain:

most of itachi's plans in naruto have never worked out how he wanted and he even failed to save his brother who he loves so much as for minato who saved the hidden leaf from tobi and the nine tails and made a big plan for his son for the future and believed that his choice would save the hidden leaf in the future now naruto is proof that minato intelligence > itachi's.

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but as far as the tread goes itachi has a 5 in Intelligence so he is about as smart as they come but there are some people smarter. so he might be or might not be

 

[Multiply]

Sorry to make you Itachi fanboys sad but, Minato developed Rasengan after seeing a Tbb once... That's a feat surpassed by close to none. When Itachi does anything like that, please feel free to reply back on this thread. U_U