Minato's death

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

this is not a hate thread, I like minato a lot. I realised it more so remembered something upon viewing a new thread today entitled minato owned kutama or something or the other. I read the whole thread and at the end there was a manga scan where ksushina was saying to minato why do you have to use the reaper death seal and he came up with I want you to meet him and for him to meet you even if its for a moment and I can't do what you can even if I lived.

I call BS, I think he was lying he just could not handle his wife dying and having to look after naruto by himself changing those nappies, feeding him having to deal with waking up at night by baby naruto. Looking after him till he is old enough and training him etc. Not to mention having to stick to his job as hokage which we know is paperwork heavy and boring. Watching out for the threat of the masked man and dealing with it but nope he thought I'll just die and rest in peace and let my son handle everything.

Honestly the decision makes no sense, he knew other sealing techniques and specifically uzumaki sealing techniques instead he uses RDS to seal habit of his and wife chakra in naruto so they can see him for 5 mins instead of being there and supporting him throughout narutos life? Naruto would be a lot smarter, have ftg possibly, better tactics everything if his dad trained him he is after all a one of a kind genius. Anyway to the point narutos life would have been waaaay better with minato there and naruto said it to him himself when he met him.sot thoughts people?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Minato just didn't want to be a single daddy

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

conventional sealing tech's can't be done on a living raging monster (this is not how it works), his back was against the wall.

as for the rest of the points you made ............................. obviously you're joking :yeah:

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

I wanted to pick the first and 3 one -_-"

Minato died because of plot, the fox didn't kill him, obito, RDS actually killed him, but to be honest he really didn't die if he was watching inside of Naruto since that day (Pain arc).

Its the way Kishi wanted it...he would have stopped Itachi and Obito, Sasuke would be a good kid, Naruto as well.

If Minato would have stayed alive he would have brought peace. ​

 

[sealingscroll]

you do realize, he did all that to not only Protect his son but the village as well. so either way it was a hard decision to make.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

conventional sealing tech's can't be done on a living raging monster (this is not how it works), his back was against the wall.

as for the rest of the points you made ............................. obviously you're joking :yeah:

Uzumaki sealing techniques would work. Otherwise why would kushina question minatos choice in using RDS which results in his death against other non lethal sealing techniques?

 

[sealingscroll]

Uzumaki sealing techniques would work. Otherwise why would kushina question minatos choice in using RDS which results in his death against other non lethal sealing techniques?

the other method was killing herself with exhaustion pulling Kurama back in. he didn't like that so he gave up his life using the RDS so naruto at least had the chance to meet his mother throughout his life.

which ended up helping against pain.
Helping with controlling the 9 tails.

and as Jiraiya states. Minato doesn't do nothing without a good reason.

 

[naruttebayo]

honestly it was plot BS

since minato was dead at the start of the series
and he has to be the father of naruto

that's why kishi has to kill him some how

kishi never wanted naruto's father to be weak so it was suicidal

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

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[JIRAIYA perv]

Uzumaki sealing techniques would work. Otherwise why would kushina question minatos choice in using RDS which results in his death against other non lethal sealing techniques?

like ?? name them ??

as i said you have to weaken you'r enemy to the point where you can seal him and Minato was already tired/drained from facing Obito, teleporting huge objects (kyuubi, TBB) and using FTG to move around.

Kushina questioned his choice not because she knows there's another way but, because she didn't wanna believe that it came down to this and that her son won't have a father/mother, that Minato had to die. it was more like a desperate cry than a "there is another solution" or objection (if there was another solution then Kishi wouldn't have called Minato a hero).

if you think there was another solution/tech, please name it :yeah: are you serious about this ??

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

the other method was killing herself with exhaustion pulling Kurama back in. he didn't like that so he gave up his life using the RDS so naruto at least had the chance to meet his mother throughout his life.

which ended up helping against pain.
Helping with controlling the 9 tails.

and as Jirayia states. Minato doesn't do nothing without a good reason.

No you don't understand she was already using the chains when she said why the RDS, he made the choice to kill himself and have his wife and his chairs in naruto so they could meet him later instead of using uzumaki sealing techniques to seal half of kurama in naruto. It might have even been possible to seal half within himself too and live but he picked death over life and that's my point RDS was not needed he could have been there for naruto.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

like ?? name them ??

as i said you have to weaken you'r enemy to the point where you can seal him and Minato was already tired/drained from facing Obito, teleporting huge objects (kyuubi, TBB) and using FTG to move around.

Kushina questioned his choice not because she knows there's another way but, because she didn't wanna believe that it came down to this and that her son won't have a father/mother, that Minato had to die. it was more like a desperate cry than a "there is another solution" or objection (if there was another solution then Kishi wouldn't have called Minato a hero).

if you think there was another solution/tech, please name it :yeah: are you serious about this ??

I honestly don't know the names of uzumaki techniques but I thought it was a known fact he learnt sealing jutsu off kushina seeing as that clan is famous for them. Also I agree he was very tired at that point and it would have been hard. What your saying also makes sense and I partially agree. My question still stands though do you think in your opinion that he made the right choice. If you were in his shoes would you not rather be there for your kid? I can tell you for a fact I wold rather stick around than have a few minutes in the future to talk to him.

 

[yondaime4]

I think that if minato was alive the show would be totally differant, in the sense that The uchiha would still be around cuz he would have stopped the coup, and itachi would b3 kage because minato would have seen that as the best way to keep the uchiha happy while still putting the village first since itachi is the man. Finally naruto and sasuke would be close seeing as minato and itachi would be close and sasuke and naruto would both want to be kage.

Not sure how to vote though, I think it was written well enough already.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

I think that if minato was alive the show would be totally differant, in the sense that The uchiha would still be around cuz he would have stopped the coup, and itachi would b3 kage because minato would have seen that as the best way to keep the uchiha happy while still putting the village first since itachi is the man. Finally naruto and sasuke would be close seeing as minato and itachi would be close and sasuke and naruto would both want to be kage.

Not sure how to vote though, I think it was written well enough already.

I like your answer and completely agree. I mean not including how it would completely change the manga do you agree with his choice and what choice would you have made?

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

I honestly don't know the names of uzumaki techniques but I thought it was a known fact he learnt sealing jutsu off kushina seeing as that clan is famous for them. Also I agree he was very tired at that point and it would have been hard. What your saying also makes sense and I partially agree. My question still stands though do you think in your opinion that he made the right choice. If you were in his shoes would you not rather be there for your kid? I can tell you for a fact I wold rather stick around than have a few minutes in the future to talk to him.

Uzumaki's don't deal with raging/fighting monsters, it doesn't work like that.

the idea behind Minato's situation is the LACK OF CHOICES, of seeing your new born child/wife/village in danger and trying to do anything to save them as any great leader would do *_* also Kushina didn't think she would make it and was dying slowly from the extraction of Kurama.

when a hero sacrifices himself, it's not called a choice it means that his back was against the wall/no options that's why he sacrificed himself for his people/son meaning he's selfless unlike what you said "I think he was lying he just could not handle his wife dying and having to look after naruto by himself changing those nappies, feeding him having to deal with waking up at night by baby naruto" lol

you asked for my opinion and i agree that he should have been there as a father but, you can't blame him for that looking at the situation/obligations he had, blaming a hero that died for his son/village is not right/silly.

 

[sealingscroll]

No you don't understand she was already using the chains when she said why the RDS, he made the choice to kill himself and have his wife and his chairs in naruto so they could meet him later instead of using uzumaki sealing techniques to seal half of kurama in naruto. It might have even been possible to seal half within himself too and live but he picked death over life and that's my point RDS was not needed he could have been there for naruto.

Like I Said she would have Exhausted herself. she didn't have the chains out at all when she was pierced by the kurama's claw. if it wasn't for both of them naruto would actually have a claw mark on his body from the 9 tails.

he sealed part in naruto cause he knew he could overcome everything and control the fox. because of his father and mother.

sealed the other part with him because he had no choice but to protect the village.

Kushina would have died pulling the 9 tails back inside her body from exhaustion. which would result in 9 tails being gone forever and naruto without a mother.

I understand completely what happened at that point in time where other say its complete utter bullshit.

here's what happened.

Minato stopped the Kurams paw from killing Naruto.
Kushina had enough energy to jump in front of minato and baby naruto to help stop Kurama.
They were critically injured.
Kushina would have died using chakra chains to pull kurama back in resulting death, and the kurama being gone for a time.
Minato used the reaper death seal to Protect Naruto and the Village at the same time.
Sealed half of Kurama in naruto and himself.
used his chakra and kushinas to limit time to see naruto when he needed it the most at critical times.


can't say its plot. cause minato would have died anyway by obito and the 9 tails anyway. because he had a damn claw in his body. and where they were help wouldn't arrive in time.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Uzumaki's don't deal with raging/fighting monsters, it doesn't work like that.

the idea behind Minato's situation is the LACK OF CHOICES, of seeing your new born child/wife/village in danger and trying to do anything to save them as any great leader would do *_* also Kushina didn't think she would make it and was dying slowly from the extraction of Kurama.

when a hero sacrifices himself, it's not called a choice it means that his back was against the wall/no options that's why he sacrificed himself for his people/son.

you asked for my opinion and i agree that he should have been there as a father but, you can't blame him for that looking at the situation/obligations he had, blaming a hero that died for his son/village is not right.

Thank you for that answer I like it and agree. I know what your saying but it was a choice granted it was a tough choice it was a choice nonetheless a hero chooses to act they rise to the challenge they show their courage when others would not like hiruzen deciding to become the decoy in the tobirama incident whereas danzo could not. Well I have my answer and fro. The poll I can see how people feel so I'm satisfied + rep P.s wasn't blaming him or did not intend to

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Like I Said she would have Exhausted herself. she didn't have the chains out at all when she was pierced by the RDS. if it wasn't for both of them naruto would actually have a claw mark on his body from the 9 tails.

he sealed part in naruto cause he knew he could overcome everything and control the fox. because of his father and mother.

sealed the other part with him because he had no choice but to protect the village.

Kushina would have died pulling the 9 tails back inside her body from exhaustion. which would result in 9 tails being gone forever and naruto without a mother.

I understand completely what happened at that point in time where other say its complete utter bullshit.

here's what happened.

Minato stopped the Kurams paw from killing Naruto.
Kushina had enough energy to jump in front of minato and baby naruto to help stop Kurama.
They were critically injured.
Kushina would have died using chakra chains to pull kurama back in resulting death, and the kurama being gone for a time.
Minato used the reaper death seal to Protect Naruto and the Village at the same time.
Sealed half of Kurama in naruto and himself.
used his chakra and kushinas to limit time to see naruto when he needed it the most at critical times.


can't say its plot. cause minato would have died anyway by obito and the 9 tails anyway. because he had a damn claw in his body.

Another brilliant answer, I agree but would have to say that people have survived worse wounds I mean iruka had a giant shuriken in his back so I'm sure mjnato would have been alright and kushina was dying there was nothing that could be done for her but minato could have survived but he made his choice and he was in a desperate situation. Still if I was in the same situation I would have teleported and handed naruto to a villager bring back third homage with me and handle the kyuubi and minato is fast enough to do that. Anyway I liked your answer + rep

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Like I Said she would have Exhausted herself. she didn't have the chains out at all when she was pierced by the kurama's claw. if it wasn't for both of them naruto would actually have a claw mark on his body from the 9 tails.

he sealed part in naruto cause he knew he could overcome everything and control the fox. because of his father and mother.

sealed the other part with him because he had no choice but to protect the village.

Kushina would have died pulling the 9 tails back inside her body from exhaustion. which would result in 9 tails being gone forever and naruto without a mother.

I understand completely what happened at that point in time where other say its complete utter bullshit.

here's what happened.

Minato stopped the Kurams paw from killing Naruto.
Kushina had enough energy to jump in front of minato and baby naruto to help stop Kurama.
They were critically injured.
Kushina would have died using chakra chains to pull kurama back in resulting death, and the kurama being gone for a time.
Minato used the reaper death seal to Protect Naruto and the Village at the same time.
Sealed half of Kurama in naruto and himself.
used his chakra and kushinas to limit time to see naruto when he needed it the most at critical times.


can't say its plot. cause minato would have died anyway by obito and the 9 tails anyway. because he had a damn claw in his body. and where they were help wouldn't arrive in time.

Wasn't hiruzen there that entire time?

 

[sealingscroll]

Wasn't hiruzen there that entire time?

the place where they were at were outside the village. they meaning the few anbu, the village elder, minato and kushina

he was in the village gathering the ninja.

remember he was gonna stop Kurama. but Kurama released a TBB and minato stopped that and teleported Kurama far away from the village.

left them in the village.

but I do believe they started heading that way as back-up. cause eventually they retrieved Naruto somehow.

cause obito could have easily Kidnapped Naruto and raised him as his own.