Minato's arsenal: completely analysed (must read)

[Thundergod123]

Nice thread dude, u deserve a rest, by the way u has shown us very important about Minato, thank u.

 

[ajpn920]

Gawd can Dantee stop this nonsense. In fact this naruto and co vs sasuke and co friction is getting annoying. If you have something that you dont agree on simply state it and leave. For example although i didnt read the full thread, just from what ive read i can come up with a few things to disagree on.

First is the issue when you claimed naruto needed the fox help to summon gamabunta and stated that minato didnt or something like that which means minato has a large chakra reserve, however you are wrong. The reason for naruto using the fox to summon gamabunta was for 2 reasons. Firstly during that arc naruto was learning chakra control, how to work on water with ibusi (sp).. Jiraiya later took over his training and noted orochimaru's Gogyo Fuin which affected naruto's chakra control. Jiraiya later got rid of it with the Gogyo Kaiin which allowed naruto to increase his chakra control to the extent of being able to work on water. However this wasnt enough to summon gamabunta and thats why jiraiya had pushed him off the cliff. I cannot remember correctly but wasnt naruto later able to summon it against gaara with his own chakra

Part 1 naruto had a stamina rating of 4 which is more than enough to summon gamabunta. Its just that his chakra control wasnt there. Other ninja's, for example orochimaru and sasuke both have a stamina of 3.5 and were able to summon manda who's size is roughly equal to gamabunta and may i say sasuke was very low on chakra and still managed this feat. The reason is because they have better chakra control than naruto. Moral of the story, naruto needing the fox to summon gamabunta was more to do withchakra control issues than him not having the chakra to do so.

Second is minato's element which so far nobody know's. That card game thing you uploaded is from a previous thread and you acknowledged that it wasnt a good enough backing for minato having this element. Cannot remember but you claimed the card was made it 2002. Do you now why the card game gave him these elelemnts?. Its because they have done something that alot of people have done before. They have played with his name and from that came up with these elements for him.

This could explain where they got the wind affinity from;
"Minato" means "harbour" (港) and "Namikaze" means "waves and wind"

His trade mark technique flying thunder god, is also where they could have gotten the lightning affinity from.

Majority of what you have said has been based on summonings and you its seems like thats what you are leaning majority of his abilities/powers to however he isnt jiraiya. Jiraiya's fighting style is very much relies on summon's. Infact majority of his technique's are influenced by the frogs one way or another. Jiraiya is very experienced with the technique's of the frogs, something that i dont believe minato is. To put it simply he can possible summon the frogs however some of the technique's that jiraiya arent to be pushed on minato as his arsenal because as i noted jiraiya is very experienced with such jutsu's and has molded his fighting style around that

This is a very long thread. I commend your effort because you have gone through every little possible thing which could hint to minato having certain abilities, either from the db entry on himself, card games, jiraiya's abilities and to an extent im not sure why you took this much time to create a thread about a dead ninja's abilities when they arent coming back. However ill + rep you for the effort.

Is he strong? Yes
Are there people stronger than him? Yes
Are there people on his level? Yes
Has he been surpassed? Yes

Just as I thought that there would be someone who'll raise the question about chakra control.

chapter 91 page 12..Jiraiya figured out why naruto can't control chakra well..he uses Five Elements Unseal this time

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chapter 92..Jiraiya said that the technique that he's going to teach Naruto requires much more chakra than his normal chakra

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btw, with regards to the card game stat, I am asking for everyones opinion if it's true or not as I myself is not certain..thanks for your participation

Nice thread dude, u deserve a rest, by the way u has shown us very important about Minato, thank u.

thanks bro..glad to hear that..

 

[Blaze Release]

Just as I thought that there would be someone who'll raise the question about chakra control.

chapter 91 page 12..Jiraiya figured out why naruto can't control chakra well..he uses Five Elements Unseal this time

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chapter 92..Jiraiya said that the technique that he's going to teach Naruto requires much more chakra than his normal chakra

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Or he couldve underestimated naruto's chakra supply because he is a kid and there arent many kids with a stamina rating of 4 in the DB. It isnt the first time that teachers have underestimated a kids chakra supply. Iruka was surprised when naruto spammed kage bunshin the first time against that chunnin ninja when he stole the scroll. Kakashi was surprised when sasuke was able to form the katon jutsu and noted that a genin shouldnt have this much chakra to do this technique.

Again a stamina of 4 is more than enough to summon an animal as large as gamabunta

 

[ajpn920]

Or he couldve underestimated naruto's chakra supply because he is a kid and there arent many kids with a stamina rating of 4 in the DB. It isnt the first time that teachers have underestimated a kids chakra supply. Iruka was surprised when naruto spammed kage bunshin the first time against that chunnin ninja when he stole the scroll. Kakashi was surprised when sasuke was able to form the katon jutsu and noted that a genin shouldnt have this much chakra to do this technique.

Again a stamina of 4 is more than enough to summon an animal as large as gamabunta

it's possible that Jiraiya underestimated naruto's chakra but since he knows about Naruto, then it's highly possible that what he said is true. considering a stat of 4 in part 1 can summon bunta, we could safely assume that Minato has more than this stat as he was able to do more during his batte with Tobi. During this time, Naruto tired out easily after summoning Bunta and he was considered by Jiraiya to have great stamina.

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Do not double or multipost people. Start editing your posts and deleting the double one. If I hav e to merge it for you , you are very likely to get an infraction along with it. Please read the Global forum rules.

edited already..my apology..

 

[Blaze Release]

it's possible that Jiraiya underestimated naruto's chakra but since he knows about Naruto, then it's highly possible that what he said is true. considering a stat of 4 in part can summon bunta, we could safely assume that Minato has more than this stat as he was able to do more during his batte with Tobi. During this time, Naruto tired out easily after summoning Bunta and he was considered by Jiraiya to have great stamina.

Not really. Sasuke was low on chakra reserve against deidora and with a 3.5 for stamina still managed to summon manda which is roughly equal in size to gamabunta

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Upload the whole page. Anyway he was talking about the fox;

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You think not uploading the whole page would fool me

The training was not just about chakra control, but also was trying to introduce naruto to the fox's chakra and make him try and use it.

 

[ajpn920]

Not really. Sasuke was low on chakra reserve against deidora and with a 3.5 for stamina still managed to summon manda which is roughly equal in size to gamabunta



Upload the whole page. Anyway he was talking about the fox;

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You think not uploading the whole page would fool me

The training was not just about chakra control, but also was trying to introduce naruto to the fox's chakra and make him try and use it.

Not fooling you btw. I have to cut the picture so I can put some red square. I can't do that if I just copy the whole image url..If we'll interpret everything Jiraiya said then it means that Naruto would be needing Kurama's chakra to be able to summon bunta..kindly check this out..

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If naruto in part 1 was given 4 in stat, it's unlikely that someone who can summon bunta, do seals, teleport TBB, suppresses kurama, teleported kurama and TBB at the same time and transferring his remaining chakra to naruto will get a lower or equal stats to Naruto in part 1, right?

 

[Blaze Release]

Not fooling you btw. I have to cut the picture so I can put some red square. I can't do that if I just copy the whole image url..If we'll interpret everything Jiraiya said then it means that Naruto would be needing Kurama's chakra to be able to summon bunta..kindly check this out..

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If naruto in part 1 was given 4 in stat, it's unlikely that someone who can summon bunta, do seals, teleport TBB, suppresses kurama, teleported kurama and TBB at the same time and transferring his remaining chakra to naruto will get a lower or equal stats to Naruto in part 1, right?

Dude this is getting long and tiresome. Ive got to the point were i like to keep my explanation short and shart and tbh i thought i already therefore ill try again.

You dont necessarily need a high chakra reserve to summon a large animal, it helps but an average chakra reserve of a 3 or possibly 2.5 is enough to summon a large animal if you have great chakra control. Now im not saying minato has low chakra reserves because from what he did against against the fox it shows that he has quiet a bit of chakra although he noted to be on low reserves and asked kushina to form a barrier. To claim naruto needs the fox to summon gamabunta and he has a large chakra reserve therefore minato must be above him is wrong, not when naruto's training was for a different purpose but also ninja's with lower stamina have summoned a large animal.

People have done something on a similar scale and they have a stamina lower than naruto. Its very possible to have a stamina of 3.5 for example and great chakra control and you'd be able to do more than somebody who has a 4 for stamina but with not so good chakra control

I could go further and explain it using rasengan. How minato can form it with one hand but naruto still needs a clone for help but that will make it longer so ill stick to this

 

[ajpn920]

Dude this is getting long and tiresome. Ive got to the point were i like to keep my explanation short and shart and tbh i thought i already therefore ill try again.

You dont necessarily need a high chakra reserve to summon a large animal, it helps but an average chakra reserve of a 3 or possibly 2.5 is enough to summon a large animal if you have great chakra control. Now im not saying minato has low chakra reserves because from what he did against against the fox it shows that he has quiet a bit of chakra although he noted to be on low reserves and asked kushina to form a barrier. To claim naruto needs the fox to summon gamabunta and he has a large chakra reserve therefore minato must be above him is wrong, not when naruto's training was for a different purpose but also ninja's with lower stamina have summoned a large animal.

People have done something on a similar scale and they have a stamina lower than naruto. Its very possible to have a stamina of 3.5 for example and great chakra control and you'd be able to do more than somebody who has a 4 for stamina but with not so good chakra control

Okay then i'll take your word for it but we can't easily ignore what was written in the manga just to satisfy whatever beliefs we have, right? I'll use the link that you posted earlier.

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If you have noticed, Jiraiya is talking about chakra and not stamina. The technique requires much more chakra. I was talking about Minato's chakra pool in the OP.

 

[Adamx1337]

sooo long, good work bro

 

[ajpn920]

sooo long, good work bro

thanks

 

[Rash4life]

strong bt nt d strongest

 

[EYES OF ITACHI]

i took the time to read this whole post Minato's Boss status has been approved

 

[SilverSlick]

Minato’s arsenal and why I considered him to be the strongest as to this point.

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Other than that good thread.

 

[ajpn920]

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Other than that good thread.

thanks..actually it depends on how we define strength.. strength for me doesn't have to be brute strength or how powerful/explosive the jutsu but by the combination of all aspects..speed, intelligence, will to fight, etc........

 

[Rozzy]

Minato beats most ninja in Naruto without a doubt people just hate too admit it U_U

 

[YellowFang]

Minato beats most ninja in Naruto without a doubt people just hate too admit it U_U

Yeah, they want him to use some flashy, big and destructive techniques and abilities to dominate biju...where Minato's style is to use calculated move to finish the job, not doing bangs and flashes and more . . . Look, how he dealt with Tobi, a little scar on the floor...and if Naruto is going to defeat him or anyone else they are atleast going to make some mountain-sized craters...and people will call them MORE powerful even if Tobi don't use his Rinnegan, they will give them credit for fighting more decorated Tobi...

 

[SilverSlick]

thanks..actually it depends on how we define strength.. strength for me doesn't have to be brute strength or how powerful/explosive the jutsu but by the combination of all aspects..speed, intelligence, will to fight, etc........

I know, I know, its just, I don't believe he's on par with any Rinnegan user.

 

[YellowFang]

thanks..actually it depends on how we define strength.. strength for me doesn't have to be brute strength or how powerful/explosive the jutsu but by the combination of all aspects..speed, intelligence, will to fight, etc........

Yeah, people out there think Minato's going to be hit by meteors, wood release, huge fire balls and etc... and just can't see that none of their users need these tech.s to be dead, they will be dead if their throats are slit or just been sealed with one of many seals Minato knows...

 

[YellowFang]

I know, I know, its just, I don't believe he's on par with any Rinnegan user.

So you think ANYONE on par with Rinnegan users??

 

[Naruto cool]

Good work +rep