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Ay clearly said he was faster...don't be stupid.

He didn't say FTG, FTG isn't speed lmao

No that's why lmao it all ties together on why he's called "The Yellow Flash" you fool it's just the majority is his FTG but Minato is insanely fast on foot that it get's confused as to what he actually used that's what I'm saying.
so explain this then?

Minato was hailed as the fastest shinobi in history.[18] While this recognition was due in large part to his space–time ninjutsu, Minato's natural speed was immense: with only the Body Flicker Technique he could engage an enemy or retrieve an ally before anyone realised what he was doing,[39]often being mistaken for his Flying Thunder God Technique in sheer speed.Without using his Flying Thunder God Technique, Minato could cover the entirety of Konoha and summon Gamabunta before the Nine-Tails could complete a Tailed Beast Ball.[27] In the anime, he could appear before sensors could detect his approach and easily defeat three shinobi with minimal effort.[40][41] His reflexes allowed him react to and avoid techniques such as Kamui, Lightning Straight, and Evening Elephant.

His shunshin is fast that it has been compared to FTG by mistake but anyone who isn't retarded would know FTG speed >>> shunshin. and it took minato to FTG to dodge raikage's v2. if you want to overwank minato to be superior to itachi in every way then sure, but if you're willing to go as far to say his foot speed is faster than raikage?

"FTG isn't speed" :lmao:
 
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That wouldn't make sense. I doubt KCM Naruto or Taka Sasuke could react to Gai fast enough to intercept three TSB on contact.
Sasuke had the speed to take on v2 Raikage and he wasn't even using his full power due to the injuries he sustained from Deidara and Itachi.

KCM Naruto dodged v2 Raikage and was compared to Minato, his Kurama sensing and Sasuke's Sharingan give them the edge over Minato
 

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so explain this then?

Minato was hailed as the fastest shinobi in history.[18] While this recognition was due in large part to his space–time ninjutsu, Minato's natural speed was immense: with only the Body Flicker Technique he could engage an enemy or retrieve an ally before anyone realised what he was doing,[39]often being mistaken for his Flying Thunder God Technique in sheer speed.Without using his Flying Thunder God Technique, Minato could cover the entirety of Konoha and summon Gamabunta before the Nine-Tails could complete a Tailed Beast Ball.[27] In the anime, he could appear before sensors could detect his approach and easily defeat three shinobi with minimal effort.[40][41] His reflexes allowed him react to and avoid techniques such as Kamui, Lightning Straight, and Evening Elephant.

His shunshin is fast that it has been compared to FTG by mistake but anyone who isn't retarded would know FTG speed >>> shunshin. and it took minato use to FTG to dodge raikage's v2. if you want to overwank minato to be superior to itachi in every way then sure, but if you're willing to go as far to say his foot speed is faster than raikage?

"FTG isn't speed" :lmao:
That's what I just said you fool Lol just because he mostly uses FTG doesn't mean he isn't fast bruh that's what I'm saying.

You act like he's a bum FTG is teleportation. It said '...DUE IN LARGE..." not entirely on FTG that's why I made the thread smh

By OTHER ninjas INCLUDING KAKASHI, Obito, etc. are you retarded? They fought side by side with Minato they would know.

I'm not overwanking him that's what he said wtf lmao just because he used FTG in that one fight... the only fight between them out of many doesn't mean he's only faster because of FTG that's retarded since the raikage knows the FTG is teleportation.
 

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Also speed isn't the only thing that makes Minato to be able to dodge amaterasu you idiot.

You need reaction time, reflexes, and speed all in which allows Minato to even use and excel at FTG otherwise he wouldn't be able to use it effectively.

It's like sharingan...just because they know/see it coming don't mean they have the reflexes and reaction time to dodge it.
 

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Sasuke had the speed to take on v2 Raikage and he wasn't even using his full power due to the injuries he sustained from Deidara and Itachi.

KCM Naruto dodged v2 Raikage and was compared to Minato, his Kurama sensing and Sasuke's Sharingan give them the edge over Minato
Sasuke had the benefit of Sharingan with a straight tomoe. He was able to read Ay's movements. That doesn't make him faster especially given the blows he took.

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If he was as fast as you say he wouldn't have been outright grabbed like he did.

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Sasuke is fast, really fast given his injuries. But that's not comparable to Ay.

If we're talking about shunshin Ay tops him. But not by much.
 
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That's what I just said you fool Lol just because he mostly uses FTG doesn't mean he isn't fast bruh that's what I'm saying.

You act like he's a bum FTG is teleportation. It said '...DUE IN LARGE..." not entirely on FTG that's why I made the thread smh

By OTHER ninjas INCLUDING KAKASHI, Obito, etc. are you retarded? They fought side by side with Minato they would know.

I'm not overwanking him that's what he said wtf lmao just because he used FTG in that one fight... the only fight between them out of many doesn't mean he's only faster because of FTG that's retarded since the raikage knows the FTG is teleportation.
First off, this needs to be cleared up. body flicker in general had moments when it was confused as space-time by characters. So honestly idk where this shunshin minato wank gets special treatment anyway. secondly I never said minato was slow but he not faster than v2 raikage. It is a fact that majority of minato's hype has confused his FTG as shunshin which is where he got the yellow flash wank from which is backed by the manga and that database of minato. his alleys knowing the truth is irrelevant! if the man speed is physically as fast or god forbid faster than v2, he wouldn't need to use FTG to evade raikage. The only factual truth that puts him above Ay is that his reflexes is impressive enough to trigger FTG against raikage's blitz.

"just because he used FTG in that one fight" lol that dmg control.
he used FTG in just about all of his fights against guys who weren't fodder.
and no, BM minato feats don't count since the chakra has been shown to boost speed and reflexes
 
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Also speed isn't the only thing that makes Minato to be able to dodge amaterasu you idiot.

You need reaction time, reflexes, and speed all in which allows Minato to even use and excel at FTG otherwise he wouldn't be able to use it effectively.

It's like sharingan...just because they know/see it coming don't mean they have the reflexes and reaction time to dodge it.
lol hilarious how I'm always one step ahead of you. Yes FTG is useless without fast reflexes, that's why I said he could dodge the flames with FTG. Glad you brought up sharingan, sasuke reflexes was just enough to pull up enton behind him, that doesn't mean sasuke is faster than Ay. it just means sasuke is fast just barely enough to pull up his guard from v2 but not fast enough to parry let alone dodge ay. samething with minato, his reflexes was enough to activate FTG since he physically wasn't fast enough to dodge it with shunshin. The difference thou between minato and sasuke is that the latter couldn't track raikagev2 good enough. with EMS however he has no problem reacting fast enough to parry raikage since he was able to track juubito when his eyes were focused. Actually now that I think about it, if itachi couldn't track minato to use amaterasu (thou I think he should) EMS sasuke definitely one shots minato with amaterasu unless he counters with FTG since the latter obviously can't be tracked let alone fast enough to even be able to since it's instant.
 
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Minato wankers always think FTG is footspeed lol

All of Minato fights:

Dies and loses his wife
Loses one arm
Loses the other arm
Gives a bijuu away lol
 

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Before Otsosuki and Transmigration stuff was introduced,

He was the fastest in every aspect,

Physical speed (comparable to BM Naruto's speed)
Natural Reflexes (comparable to V1 A and KCM Naruto)
Jutsu based speed (FTG remains the fastest tied with Ameno)
 

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Before Otsosuki and Transmigration stuff was introduced,

He was the fastest in every aspect,

Physical speed (comparable to BM Naruto's speed)
Natural Reflexes (comparable to V1 A and KCM Naruto)

Jutsu based speed (FTG remains the fastest tied with Ameno)
You're kidding me right?
 

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You're kidding me right?
well if you go by feats, minato has comparable feats to v2 Ay and KCM naruto in reactions's department. Take obito for reference if you don't believe me. And in shunshin too, minato has good feats both in obito's fight and in war arc. But most of his war arc feats are attributed to KCM even though he seemed to have gained no visible boost from it unlike naruto.
 

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well if you go by feats, minato has comparable feats to v2 Ay and KCM naruto in reactions's department. Take obito for reference if you don't believe me. And in shunshin too, minato has good feats both in obito's fight and in war arc. But most of his war arc feats are attributed to KCM even though he seemed to have gained no visible boost from it unlike naruto.
You're mixing FTG and natural speed.

Minato had a fast shunshin but his reflexes were much slower. Also to argue KCM did not boost his reflexes is ridiculous
 
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You're mixing FTG and natural speed.

Minato had a fast shunshin but his reflexes were much slower. Also to argue KCM did not boost his reflexes is ridiculous
Much slower reflexes? He evaded full speed Ay. KCM naruto did the same thing. We can debate than naruto did it using shunshin while minato used ftg but the fact remains that both reacted. Minato may have slower shunshin than KCM naruto but not reflexes bro. And this feat is without KCM for minato. And minato avoided Ay twice 2nd time even more casually, thus cementing my point.
As for shunshin, minato saved baby naruto against obito, in an instant. So much that obito was impressed with his shunshin. Then against obito never said anything like that for KCM naruto or Ay. Minato circled around jubi and entire battlefield without anybody noticing. That proves the hype of minato that his shunshin was so fast that it was mistook for ftg. Yes minato has slower shunshin that v2 Ay or KCM naruto obviously. And minato has no special feats with KCM compared to base minato. Naruto went from nobody to a strong force. Can you imagine base naruto fighting on par with Ay? But you'd say KCM naruto beats Ay. Now can you imagine the same for minato with and without KCM? He clearly didn't get the boost that naruto got. May be because he already had stats comparable to KCM naruto.
 
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