only fodder use kunai to actually kill someone
sakura is a summoner as well, ftg doesnt kill, specialist because of one sealing jutsu that kills the user as well (suicide tech)
Hashirama cant touch him, Obito cant touch him, Madara cant touch him, Itachi cant touch him
nobody can touch him, doesnt make anyone weaker than him cus rasengan is not killing anyone[/QUOT
he's not fodder and he uses them...
a slit throat and the fights over....
Dont get me wrong, Im not calling minato fodder, Im saying that only fodder use kunai to kill. Minato only uses it for ftg.
give me an examle of someone he cant damage thats not godlike
Thats the point right there, thats what kicks him out of the top 10.
1 FTG gets him past defenses like that
2 nagato > minato so irrelevant
1. No it doesnt, how's he getting past rib cage susano'o?
2. wasnt the point, i was just mentioning another example of a type of defense (rinnegan users) that is capable of nullifying the effect of an unexpected rasengan
1- Madara got killed by Hashirama's sword, so it's almost the same thing
2- Obito got pierced through by Kakashi's enhanced kunai and was on the verge of death
3- Minato just cut Obito in half with a kunai with a great amount of blood covering the area. Everyone thought he was dead atm and only survived thanks to will power
4- Who can break Susanoo in the first place? The number of people capable of such a feat is limited. But not because you can't break Susanoo, you can't defeat a Susanoo user. Neither Kabuto nor Danzo have shown to be breaking through Susanoo, yet the latter almost killed Sasuke when the former was dealing with 2 Susanoo users. Minato doesn't need to break Susanoo to defeat a Susanoo user. FTG makes up for it. The warping ability of the jutsu almost make Susanoo's chakra covering Susanoo users useless when applied perfectly in battle. In terms of fire power he may be lacking, but fire power is not the only way to defeat a Susanoo user. Defeating Gaara would even be easier for him
5- Rasengan is underrated, in particularly Minato's. Minato's rasengan completely leveled the land where he was fighting Obito 16years ago. The level of destruction was even above some overpowered moves. It's the highest chakra manipulation and Minato's seems more dangerous. And like i've said, most likely rasengan isn't even his strongest move
1. madara didnt get killed by a sword. Bro, do you even read?
2. that was genjutsu, he got pierced through by a chidori though but still, he fought the whole SA (large part of the fight on his own, like using 6 bijuu's) while kakashi got chakra refills. Dont give me the 'he wasnt out of chakra cus manga didnt say so'- shit. If manga doesnt say that naruto was born because minato boned his mom it doesnt mean he didnt.
3. well, although im notr eally sure if it really went that way, lets say it did. will power doesnt protect you from rasenshuriken/tsukuyomi etc etc. only kunai's apparently.
4. I agree, but what about a ribcage susano'o? or even worse, a rib cage covered in amaterasu? an unexpected rasengan doesnt go through any of that. Also, sasuke/itachi vs kabuto was without the intent to kill, susano'o was more a defense than an offense in that fight. sasuke vs danzo; sasuke had millions of fights on that day. he did get a chakra refill from zetsu, but that doesnt make him as good as new. and the only way danzo was winning was through getting sasuke exhausted. he also couldnt pull this off again since all his eyes closed, nevertheless, minato didnt show us anything that could do similar things against susano'o users.
5. Thats true, but its not enough to damage top 10 shinobi that bad. Also, if not seeing all his jutsu is a reason for him still being strong without us knowing why yet, then how do we assume that he is top 10/stronger than some really strong shinobi like itachi for example if this unknown jutsu is necessary to make the difference.
He was still being tagged, if minato wanted to kill him, he could but he had to save the village and his family from the kyuubi, what you have to say about that.?
dont really agree. its true that he tagged him, but its the way he surprised obito with ftg that made him land a hit. after knowing that he was marked, he could just become intangible whenever minato warps cus he wouldnt fall for the same trick. i mean, the second that minato warps and is in front of obito, is not the same second that he hits him with rasengan, he still has to stretch his arm, and thats when obito kamui's this time