Minato was a genius -> Naruto is a genius too!

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yes Lord Minato was a genius ...but naruto's brain is kurama now ....he is no genius

Funny, you are actually saying Naruto is so strong thanks to Kurama? Naruto managed to get Sage Mode without Kurama's help = manga fact. Jiraiya and Minato never could do that. Naruto is a baws, a total baws. Age -> 16/17 and he already surpassed those 2. Then you are not only a hardworker, but also a genius.

Kurama was a pain in the ass for Naruto for many years btw, don't act like he was a friend all the time.
 

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People, please read my OPENING POST again and at least try to react on that. Those are all manga facts. Don't go into ButtHurt mode because a 16-17 year old goofy kid surpassed a genius like Minato... :)

Minato and Itachi, both geniuses, already acknowledged Naruto's amazing growth in the manga.
 

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Minato's-I.Q..120
Naruto'-20
Hashirama's-21
 

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Minato - Prodigy. Yes, developed the Rasengan in 3 years. He was a genius and also a hard worker.

Naruto - Hard worker. He isn't that smart. He isn't that good with jutsu. And the only reason he mastered the Rasengan so quickly was because of Kurama, something given to him by Minato.

So, Minato is a prodigy and a genius, Naruto is not. He just a hard worker.

^^ This

Everything Naruto achieved is through hard work and a kind attitude and Kurama chakra ofcourse.
 

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1. genius is not always so obvious,
2. there are different kinds of genius
3. yes naruto is a genius some of the things you stated is based more on
his chakra and not so much his genius, but his intuition, and Ingenuity is on a genius level
 

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Kurama had nothing to do with Naruto getting the Rasengan. In fact, Kurama was a pain in the ass for Naruto for many years. Naruto did all of it by his own powers wich makes him a genius and hardworker.

People who call Naruto a retard, please give arguments... I would like to see them, so that I can destroy those like I always do.

The only reason Naruto could make so many clones for making Rasengan was because of Kurama's chakra. That's why Yamato was always there during training. He was there to make sure Kurama wouldn't take over Naruto because Naruto was leeching off of Kurama's chakra. If Naruto dies out of chakra exhaustion, Kurama dies. Kurama didn't really have a choice in the matter.

Also, here's an example: making an apple pie before you've ever once seen an apple pie is harder than making it when you've seen it and have a pro chef helping you. Minato had never previously seen or made the Rasengan. Naruto had Jiraiya helping him and giving him easy-to-understand steps. Minato > Naruto.
 
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naruto is a hardworker he learned rasengan because of a clone cheat :D not one handed, he used boss summon only because of kyubi chakra, tajju kage bushin is a forbiden technic so not many person in naruto knows it,.........so in naruto got always the best teachers and great luck
 

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^^ This

Everything Naruto achieved is through hard work and a kind attitude and Kurama chakra ofcourse.

Are you F*CKING SERIOUS: Can't you people read a manga well?? Naruto got the rasengan all by himself. There was no help from Kurama! Same for Sage Mode, he got it all by his own chakra. In contrary, Kurama was working AGAINST it, wich is also mentioned. Please, you people need to read the manga better. Naruto did everyting until KM all by himself! It seems some people can't handle his awesomeness.
 

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Nah, Naruto is good at making clever battle strategies that most people don't think of regularly, but he is still the usual #1 knucklehead ninja.

Not only that, but he still requires another hand to help him do any rasengan variants whereas his father, Jiraiya, and Kakashi can do it one handed.
 
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There's a rope and a tree out back, please do yourself the honors.
 

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The only reason Naruto could make so many clones for making Rasenganwaa because of Kurama's chakra. That's why Yamato was always there during training. He was there to make sure Kurama wouldn't take over Naruto because Naruto was leeching off of Kurama's chakra. If Naruto dies out of chakra exhaustion, Kurama dies. Kurama didn't really have a choice in the matter.

Also, here's an example: making an apple pie before you've ever once seen an apple pie is harder than making it when you've seen it and have a pro chef helping you. Minato had never previously seen the Rasengan. Naruto had Jiraiya helping him and giving him easy-to-understand steps. Minato > Naruto.

WRONG once again. Naruto has such big chakra because he is an Uzumaki. Uzumaki's had very much chakra. Just like Kushina did.

Nice try, come again.
 

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There's a rope and a tree out back, please do yourself the honors.

Naruto defeated some of the strongest shinobi, because he is stupid... Ok.

He is still a kid, so it is normal he makes mistakes.

Nice try, come again.
 

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naruto is a hardvorker and a lucky bastard :D.......... only his fighting style is genial .....confusing enemies with clones is prety good
 

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I should be happy because I am destroying these counter-arguments such easily, but I am not... The level is very low here...
 

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Naruto defeated some of the strongest shinobi, because he is stupid... Ok.

He is still a kid, so it is normal he makes mistakes.

Nice try, come again.
Minato immediately observed and countered Obito's S/T jutsu.
Naruto got his ass saved by plot and itachi in the case of edo nagato.
You come again.
 

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naruto is a hardvorker and a lucky bastard :D.......... only his fighting style is genial .....confusing enemies with clones is prety good

Naruto managed to get Sage Mode thanks to luck?

O no, now you gonna say it was thanks to Kurama, haha. No, he did it all by himself.
 

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Minato immediately observed and countered Obito's S/T jutsu.
Naruto got his ass saved by plot and itachi in the case of edo nagato.
You come again.
Nagato was an Edo Zombie and would already be dead before using that specific jutsu...

You come again, if you dare.
 

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WRONG once again. Naruto has such big chakra because he is an Uzumaki. Uzumaki's had very much chakra. Just like Kushina did.

Nice try, come again.

Then why was Yamato required to be there? Uzumaki or not, you can't make a thousand clones for hours on end without the help of Bijuu, Kurama in this case.
Nice try. Come again. :sy:
 
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