[VS] Minato vs Taka Sasuke

[shelke]

Without Minudo's FT Gee ... wut is lif?

 

[Apêx1]

Without Minudo's FT Gee ... wut is lif?

Lower the level of grammar a bit more and you will be somewhat closer to Minato fans.

 

[eagle8]

minato wins

 

[Unorthodox]

Nah that has to be you, you nuthugger. Are you done gorging on Sasuke's Diick btw?

Lel RDS murders Sasuke neg diff stay irate Lol

Sasuke has ninshuu the reaper is lit up with enton flames

minato wins

sasuke wins this minato has nothing to bypass a ribcage susanoo also manda & aoda would prove difficult to take out minato summonings are solod genjutsu or amaterasu dont say contract seal bs manda hates bunta more than he hates sasuke he preps kirin gg minato

 

[A v i]

1,2,3 and 4.:yeah:

 

[ARGUS]

I would love to see a single logical reasoning behind Base Minato wining against any version of Sasuke from Hebi and up. At Hebi level, CS2 tanked a whole homing missile that obliterated an extremely large area that made Deidara's C2 dragon look like a smudge on the page. Minato's puny Rasangans are not even denting it.

Judgin the outcome of the fight thrrough Sasukes performance against Deidara isnt accurate at all since Deidara and Minato are completely different interms of fighting style

His SM lasts a few seconds.

Means absolutely nothing,, Minato wont even use it,,,

His FTG is reacted to, as shown via Bee that it's very much possible. At CQC level, he's put under Genjutsu. Then we have Chidori variants that would do a number on this fruit.

-MS Sasuke is not reacting to something as fast as FTG,,,the same dude who was struggling to keep up with A is getting outright blitzed by FTG,, Bee also didnt reaat to it,, he anticipated Minatos move
-Minato is way too fast for Sasuke to put under a genjutsu,, Sasuke couldnt put A under a genjutsu,,, solely due to the fact that A was too fast,,,
-At CQC Sasuke is getting marked tthats what will happen,, since Minato would always out speed him,,,
-Sasuke needs his Susanoo to protect himself
-Chidori variants are absolutely futile,, Sasuke is not landing a hit on Minato through Chidori which is an upfront close range attack based on speed and reflexes,,, something that sasuke is inferior to mInato in

Sasuke being an expert at Kenjutsu has incredible reaction rates and solely at CQC what does Minato have? He isn't getting tagged, nor is Chakra an issue. At MS level Sasuke is a force to be reckoned with. At close Range, MS Genjutsu would do a number on him. I am sorry, how does this guy win anyway?

He may have incredible reaction rates but he is not keeping up with Minato,, especially when the latter uses FTG,,,
-Going against Minato at CQC is worse for Sasuke,, since he would end up getting tagged,, and no way in hell is sasuke putting someone who uses FTG,, in a genjutsu,,,
-Sasuke is getting tagged,, if he goes at CQC against Minato,, V1 A managed to get good hits on MS SAsuke,,, someone of Minatos speeed is easily tagging him
-Minato wins by evadingg everything that sasuke throws at him,,,Sasuke would need his susanoo to protect himself,, and even then Minato has ways around it, as he can simply outlast sasuke by running around,, through FTG which isnt chakra taxing at alll,, his susanoo arrows will get back fired at him through S/T barrier,,,and the drawbacks of overusing MS is what leads to sasukes defeat

 

[Penguin]

Current Sasuke >>>>>>> EMS Sasuke with PS >>> EMS Sasuke >= Tobirama >= Minato > MS Sasuke with experience >>> MS Sasuke > Hebi Sasuke

In my opinion, that is how the manga portrays it.

 

[Unorthodox]

Current Sasuke >>>>>>> EMS Sasuke with PS >>> EMS Sasuke >= Tobirama >= Minato > MS Sasuke with experience >>> MS Sasuke > Hebi Sasuke

In my opinion, that is how the manga portrays it.

stawp fully healthy ms sasuke > Minato or tobirama

also alive minato is better than tobirama

and ems sasuke without ps stomps both of them if they are alive

 

[shelke]

Judgin the outcome of the fight thrrough Sasukes performance against Deidara isnt accurate at all since Deidara and Minato are completely different interms of fighting style

Means absolutely nothing,, Minato wont even use it,,,

-MS Sasuke is not reacting to something as fast as FTG,,,the same dude who was struggling to keep up with A is getting outright blitzed by FTG,, Bee also didnt reaat to it,, he anticipated Minatos move
-Minato is way too fast for Sasuke to put under a genjutsu,, Sasuke couldnt put A under a genjutsu,,, solely due to the fact that A was too fast,,,
-At CQC Sasuke is getting marked tthats what will happen,, since Minato would always out speed him,,,
-Sasuke needs his Susanoo to protect himself
-Chidori variants are absolutely futile,, Sasuke is not landing a hit on Minato through Chidori which is an upfront close range attack based on speed and reflexes,,, something that sasuke is inferior to mInato in


He may have incredible reaction rates but he is not keeping up with Minato,, especially when the latter uses FTG,,,
-Going against Minato at CQC is worse for Sasuke,, since he would end up getting tagged,, and no way in hell is sasuke putting someone who uses FTG,, in a genjutsu,,,
-Sasuke is getting tagged,, if he goes at CQC against Minato,, V1 A managed to get good hits on MS SAsuke,,, someone of Minatos speeed is easily tagging him
-Minato wins by evadingg everything that sasuke throws at him,,,Sasuke would need his susanoo to protect himself,, and even then Minato has ways around it, as he can simply outlast sasuke by running around,, through FTG which isnt chakra taxing at alll,, his susanoo arrows will get back fired at him through S/T barrier,,,and the drawbacks of overusing MS is what leads to sasukes defeat

This is a rather A B C logic.

Obviously he won't, given its uselessness.

Bee reacted to FTG twice. Reacting to Minato's movements outside FTG is not a fairytale, it's a very real phenomenon. Minato also, never blitzed Ae with his Base Speed. He landed from above through an FTG Kunai. In fact, Ae pushed Minato to resort to FTG. When Bee's tentacle was revealed, Minato retreated soon after.

Using FTG and then attacking after FTG are not even remotely relatable. As Bee reacted to it, twice, Sasuke can as well. In fact, Sasuke will not just stand around and let Minato spread his Kunais like Ae did. It's odd how for plot reasons, neither Ae nor Bee blitzed him, and both of them have speeds superior than his Base Speed. Sasuke can outright use Fire Ball attack or Fuma Shurikens to deflect his kunais back.

Just because he uses FTG, doesn't mean he one-shots opponents like Sasuke. In order to land a hit on Sasuke, Mianto will have to close the gap wouldn't he? Or he somehow magically attacks him? At CQC, Minato is not beating a Kenjutsu expert. Minato's Taijutsu skills are no where near Sasuke's Kenjutsu proficiency. It's a myth that they are, backed by no feats at all. As I said, FTG is not a game changer at all.

How is he not? Does FTG somehow prevent him from being put under genjutsu? Minato has zero feats of fighting with someone by looking at their feet like Gai. Since cannot do so, he's a target for Genjutsu, and this tagging isn't happening for someone with Sasuke's reflexes. Bee even got tagged because he was pushing Ae back with his Partially transformed Tentacle, which he put out after Minato had already used FTG, making reactions after FTG that much more possible and convincing. And that was Teenage Bee.

Seems moot points, given the fact that his Barrier requires handseals and arrows are canonically much faster than a single handseal. How is he making four? At CQC, Minato will have to confront Sasuke long enough to land a hit. You make this sound like an easy job, which it even remotely isn't.

 

[ARGUS]

This is a rather A B C logic.

Quote properly,, i dont know what part of my argument are u responding to,,,
either way,,, im using this logic since we all know that minatos speed is superior to A,,, and seeing that sasuke was struggling against A's sppeeddd, its very logical to state that he wuld struggle even more against minatos speed

Bee reacted to FTG twice. Reacting to Minato's movements outside FTG is not a fairytale, it's a very real phenomenon. Minato also, never blitzed Ae with his Base Speed. He landed from above through an FTG Kunai. In fact, Ae pushed Minato to resort to FTG. When Bee's tentacle was revealed, Minato retreated soon after.

I never said that Minato blitzed A,, all i stated is that his speed is superior to A thats all
-no,,, Bee did not react to FTG twice,,,
-Minato didnt retreat after bees tentacle,,, his comrades were retreating and he proceeeded to attack Bee

Using FTG and then attacking after FTG are not even remotely relatable. As Bee reacted to it, twice, Sasuke can as well. In fact, Sasuke will not just stand around and let Minato spread his Kunais like Ae did. It's odd how for plot reasons, neither Ae nor Bee blitzed him, and both of them have speeds superior than his Base Speed. Sasuke can outright use Fire Ball attack or Fuma Shurikens to deflect his kunais back.

@Bold - Yes they are,, FTG is FTG,,whether u use it for defense or attack,,, the technique is still the same
-No he cant,,,Sasuke is likely to get marked or blitzed by FTG if he ever attemps CQC against Minato,,
-Minato would spread around the kunai right at the beginning of the battle,,,,Sasuke is likely to analyse Minatos moves,,, he wont jus outright try to attack Minato before he spreads his kunai,,, either way,, even if sasuke tries to attack Minato,, Minatos shunshin is superior,, so sasuke would be at a greater disadvantage
-Even if he deflects his kunai away,, he doesnt destroy them completely,, and even then MInato can use FTG to evade Sasukes attacks,, which is mostly what he needs to do here

Just because he uses FTG, doesn't mean he one-shots opponents like Sasuke. In order to land a hit on Sasuke, Mianto will have to close the gap wouldn't he? Or he somehow magically attacks him? At CQC, Minato is not beating a Kenjutsu expert. Minato's Taijutsu skills are no where near Sasuke's Kenjutsu proficiency. It's a myth that they are, backed by no feats at all. As I said, FTG is not a game changer at all.

I never said Minato one-shots Sasuke,, i stated as to how he defeats Sasuke,,,the main advantage that FTG gives Minato is that he can use it to evade everything in sasukes arsenal,,
-All that matters is one touch really,, and if that happens its KO for Sasuke,,, and believing that Minato does eventually lannd a touch on Sasuke isnt very absurd
-Taijustsu is suicide for Sasuke,, what are u on about,, regardless of Sasukes kenjutsu skills,, he will end up getting marked,,,,
-FTG is one of the best techniques in the manga,,,it is a game changer

How is he not? Does FTG somehow prevent him from being put under genjutsu? Minato has zero feats of fighting with someone by looking at their feet like Gai. Since cannot do so, he's a target for Genjutsu, and this tagging isn't happening for someone with Sasuke's reflexes. Bee even got tagged because he was pushing Ae back with his Partially transformed Tentacle, which he put out after Minato had already used FTG, making reactions after FTG that much more possible and convincing. And that was Teenage Bee.

Minato doesnt need to look away,,, FTG is too fast for Sasuke to keep track of Minatos movements,, Sasuke wont be able to catch Minatos eye contact,, and thats exactly why genjutsu is not happening,,, furthermore sasukes genjutsu is likely to be broken by most of the top/high tiers,,,

Seems moot points, given the fact that his Barrier requires handseals and arrows are canonically much faster than a single handseal. How is he making four? At CQC, Minato will have to confront Sasuke long enough to land a hit. You make this sound like an easy job, which it even remotely isn't.

@Bold - Ur opinion on my points doesnt concern me,,, bcz my points are not moot,
-Honestly,, ur delusional to think that Sasuke stands a good chance against Minato in CQC,, when the latter evades all of his attacks through FTG,, and then sneaks behind him and marks him,,,,

 

[shelke]

- I don't have time to quote properly, so, you will just have to bear it. No, Minato's Base speed is not the same as Ae's. Ae's reaction rates alone, noted to be like 'Flashes of Light' by Chee are superior than his. Adult Bee reacted to V2 Ae. Teenage Bee would, if not similar speed and reaction rates, would still have better base speed. False, he was told that it was 'their Cue to retreat'. Minato agreed. Bee was the sole reason why they retreated.

Bee reacted to it twice 1) My moving his tentacle forward to push Ae ahead when Minato had already used FTG and 2) the second time when he readied his Katana into a stabbing position for Minato. That is two times.

- I am not sure if you are serious if you are implying that Minato own speed after the Teleportation even remotely matches FTG. Once the A to B teleportation is complete, Minato will move at his own speed, not at FTG. How is he getting blitzed, when Bee proved that reaction and guarding is very much possible? All of this is pure assumption and nothing else. Just because Minato managed to attack nameless nobodies via FTG, doesn't make his luck any better with Sasuke.

Why wouldn't he? You assume that Sasuke wouldn't attack after seeing Minato questionably and randomly spread his Kunais around, when he analyzed Danzo's move through his little slip - he was checking time and Sasuke figured the whole thing out. You are slighting Sasuke's analytical capabilities if you think Minato would get away with his casual Kunai spread. He won't and it's a fact. Minato's Body-Flicker is not superior than Sasuke's. I don't know which manga you are reading, but there are many feats from Sasuke's end that put Minato's best Body Flicker feat to shame.

He doesn't have to destroy them as his Fire ball attack will damage the yellow paper on the Kunais on which the Jutsu is written. It was shown to tear up the ground when a 30% clone used it. His Kunais would be rendered utterly useless. I wonder what will happen to Minato if he launches his Dragon Katon attack at him whilst he is spreading his Kunais - the same attack with three Dragon heads that tore through the stone ceiling of Uchiha hideout and reached all the way to the Cloud Base to kick start the storm for Kirin.

- Sasuke is no fool. He will conserve his chakra. You are comparing Sasuke to Ae and Bee - too ninjas that are none too bright. Even they figured it out that all they have to do is keep track of his Kunais. With Sharingan, it would be that much easier. Sasuke will not just keep wasting his chakra for nothing. You have to consider the other side as well. It's not all FTG dominance. How? Superior Reaction rates, superior Kenjutsu - Minato doesn't even posses Kenjutsu - and Sharingan, and he's marked? I don't think so. You over-presume much then. Minato appears close to Sasuke, he uses Nagashi, paralyzing Minato there and then. Then what?

- What? So Minato will keep disappearing via FTG and would never appear, ever? he won't ever look at Sasuke, ever? He would never close in to attack, ever? When Orochimaru and Chee couldn't break it - they are Genjutsu experts - Minato's chances are literally zero.

- Calling someone delusional without any basis at all sure gives you merit, when Hebi Sasuke was a Kage level shinobi. Give me a break. You think Minato has anything that tops Sasuke's Chidori variants and Kenjutsu at CQC level? Let's not joke around.

 

[UnwntdHouseG]

Minato wins by teleporting sasuke into a volcano...Just like when minato teleported Kuramas bijuu bomb away from the village. Instantaneous win...:bouncy:[video=youtube;5mn2Te_frFc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mn2Te_frFc[/video]

 

[Apêx1]

Minato wins by teleporting sasuke into a volcano...Just like when minato teleported Kuramas bijuu bomb away from the village. Instantaneous win...:bouncy:[video=youtube;5mn2Te_frFc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mn2Te_frFc[/video]

Scans of volcano being marked or gtfo nab..

 

[Unorthodox]

Minato wins by teleporting sasuke into a volcano...Just like when minato teleported Kuramas bijuu bomb away from the village. Instantaneous win...:bouncy:[video=youtube;5mn2Te_frFc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mn2Te_frFc[/video]

susanoo already withstood lava fk outa here

 

[Haizaki]

This is Taka sasuke vs Minato....Minato definitely rapes

 

[Stxluciferr]

Sasuke can win with susanoo and Enton

 

[KidGamer65]

How does this change anything? If you don't think any other versions of MS Sasuke can beat him then "Prime" MS Sasuke wouldn't either. V4 Susano'O doesn't add anything the others don't have other than durability (Which doesn't really equate to much because Minato already couldn't break Susano'O) and drains his chakra faster.

On topic though, if its the Danzo fight MS Sasuke then Sasuke takes it high diff.

V4 gives him better control of more Enton. The others don't, not at the MS stage.