Minato vs Shi Sui

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he beat obito, Ay, Killer b, mad fodder earth nin, cloud nin, etc. His resume is pretty good.
He didn't beat Ay, that fight was interupted Bee. Bee owned Minato, so I have no idea on where you got that from too. Obito killed Minato too, then he comes back as an edo and then he beats his ass again.
 
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Cool story bro. Minato is better than shuisi period. KA not only get's avoided due to minato's sensory skills and high level synapses which is able to react to attacks,and powerful abilities that shisui has never even so much as even heard of, but shisui also get's defeated without so much as putting up a good fight. Minato's sensory skills was traveling as far as a whole country like tobirama's,which is how he sensed naruto at the battle field. Shusi fight's minato face to face he's gonna get demolished..Even "speed" which shisui THINKS he excels in looks ridiculous, language, and pathetic in comparison to minato's. It's funny you talk about naruto and sasuke's base speed i bet shisui couldn't even dodge that if he had, ftg,raiton armor,and a sage mode boost. Has shisui ever even done anything before his death that mattered?? Wasn't shisui the most irrelevant uchiha like ever?

Fact's are the only important thing shusui ever accomplished was when he died. The whole idea of shisui's existence was meant to be developmental sacrifice for a sickly half dead pacifist who was being used by a psychopath(who minato rekted) who's only reason to wanna end the world was because a broad who friend zoned him a million times ended up getting killed.

Minato's was looked upon as one of the strongest ninja in history,and unlike shusui he actually lived up to his hype. As much as shisui's done he isn't even worth being noticed let alone wanked. Talented? What did he do? Get beat up and eye jacked by a old man than jumped off a cliff? Shisui getting his ass beat is literally the thing that made him famous. The only fight he had is the fight that killed him.This guy is joke.. Itachi? Obito? Compared to minato talent like their's look's ordinary.

The hokage spot is the highest position in the village to even be considered for the position say's a lot about you especially at the age minato was. A hokage is recognized as the strongest ninja in the village. Fugaku didn't even have any feats that came close to qualifying for that position. And danzo wasn't getting it.Period.

Not only was shisui a failed talent,but he was a embarrassment and hardly a relevant ninja in general. Among the uchiha shisui was basically equivalent to a throw away pistol. I never even heard shisui once be refereed to as a prodigy.By anyone.. Facts
Fail again you said you never heard of shi sui being held as a prodigy moron danzo himself said shi sui was the most talented uchiha of his generation that included itachi and obito

Also itachi is naturally talented while Minato made his fame because of a jutsu his gf family gave to him he literally married into something special. Itachi graduated and made it through the ranks as young as minato and kakashi

And fail again if you say Minato beating a kid obito means anything thats literally his only worthy opponent obito as a kid lacked any experience he lack experience and usage of his kamui and proof is how Minato son the child of prophecy in bm blitzes rival ftg and his famous student kakashi who has obito counter kamui and gai the greatest taijutsu user ever and the original perfect jin could only touch obito once as an adult Minato would get wrecked by those four unlike obito and itachi saved the SA by releasing edo tensei

And no hokage are not always the most powerful in the village jiraya and oro were more powerful than hiruzen, nagato was more powerful than hanzo, kisame clearly shits on mei and is the greatest water jutsu user we ever seen, sasori killed the 3rd kazekage, sasuke naruto are way more powerful than kakashi when he was hokage, gai and kakashi and danzo were more powerful than tsunade so kage being the most powerful means absolutely booboo


Minato wasn't even acknowledged during the war I mean everyone was astonished and in awe of hashirama and tobirama nobody said shit about Minato other than naruto the 4the is your dad lmao kishi even knew he was out of place thats why he gave him an asspull power up which is bm lol like he could train in rds belly or something
 

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Cool story bro. Minato is better than shuisi period. KA not only get's avoided due to minato's sensory skills and high level synapses which is able to react to attacks,and powerful abilities that shisui has never even so much as even heard of, but shisui also get's defeated without so much as putting up a good fight. Minato's sensory skills was traveling as far as a whole country like tobirama's,which is how he sensed naruto at the battle field. Shusi fight's minato face to face he's gonna get demolished..Even "speed" which shisui THINKS he excels in looks ridiculous, language, and pathetic in comparison to minato's. It's funny you talk about naruto and sasuke's base speed i bet shisui couldn't even dodge that if he had, ftg,raiton armor,and a sage mode boost. Has shisui ever even done anything before his death that mattered?? Wasn't shisui the most irrelevant uchiha like ever?

Fact's are the only important thing shusui ever accomplished was when he died. The whole idea of shisui's existence was meant to be developmental sacrifice for a sickly half dead pacifist who was being used by a psychopath(who minato rekted) who's only reason to wanna end the world was because a broad who friend zoned him a million times ended up getting killed.

Minato's was looked upon as one of the strongest ninja in history,and unlike shusui he actually lived up to his hype. As much as shisui's done he isn't even worth being noticed let alone wanked. Talented? What did he do? Get beat up and eye jacked by a old man than jumped off a cliff? Shisui getting his ass beat is literally the thing that made him famous. The only fight he had is the fight that killed him.This guy is joke.. Itachi? Obito? Compared to minato talent like their's look's ordinary.

The hokage spot is the highest position in the village to even be considered for the position say's a lot about you especially at the age minato was. A hokage is recognized as the strongest ninja in the village. Fugaku didn't even have any feats that came close to qualifying for that position. And danzo wasn't getting it.Period.

Not only was shisui a failed talent,but he was a embarrassment and hardly a relevant ninja in general. Among the uchiha shisui was basically equivalent to a throw away pistol. I never even heard shisui once be refereed to as a prodigy.By anyone.. Facts
Fail again shi sui as stated by Ao the head of the Allied Shinobi forces sensing division said shi sui and itachi can cast genjutsu that no one not even sensors can detect so minato is getting one shotted instantly
 

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Then Minato also changed the tide of the war when he sealed the other half of Kurama in Naruto to revive him. Without Naruto, they wouldn't even had a chance against Kaguya.
Boy itachi been naruto's dad the whole series he been teaching naruto so without itachi being who he is and guiding both naruto and sasuke the show would be nothing
 

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It always makes me wonder what limitations KA has. In theory it's an instant victory against almost anyone, it is essentially equivalent to Sosuke Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu from Bleach. I suppose you could win if you tricked Shisui into using it on a clone, like kakashi did to Itachi.
 

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He didn't beat Ay, that fight was interupted Bee. Bee owned Minato, so I have no idea on where you got that from too. Obito killed Minato too, then he comes back as an edo and then he beats his ass again.
Bee owned Minato? I hope you're kidding. It was a stalemate, they each stopped with their blades pointed at each other.
 

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It always makes me wonder what limitations KA has. In theory it's an instant victory against almost anyone, it is essentially equivalent to Sosuke Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu from Bleach. I suppose you could win if you tricked Shisui into using it on a clone, like kakashi did to Itachi.
Not even possible to be tricked on a clone because you have to even know its about to be used and that's not possible because shi sui can cast genjutsu without anyone knowing not even sensors not even knowing as stated by Ao
 

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Bee owned Minato? I hope you're kidding. It was a stalemate, they each stopped with their blades pointed at each other.
Minato knew he would die its clear bee is highly resistant and way more durable than Minato. Bee would have took that kunai unfazed no diff while Minato would have been severely hurt we all know this
 

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Not even possible to be tricked on a clone because you have to even know its about to be used and that's not possible because shi sui can cast genjutsu without anyone knowing not even sensors not even knowing as stated by Ao
If Minato ambushed Shisui with Full Intel on KA he could win using clones, but that's not really a fair battle anyway.
 

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If Minato ambushed Shisui with Full Intel on KA he could win using clones, but that's not really a fair battle anyway.
Shi sui was probably about 10 or 11 when Minato died so I highly doubt he would have Intel on shi sui the truth is Minato loses to KA in order for Minato to win we would have to restrict shi sui
 

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You're right, I forgot Killer Bee's Skin is made of titanium. my bad.
Lol didn't say tittanium but he clearly took a sword to the neck from suigetsu he took a senjutsu monster punch and was unfazed he clearly can take a stab wound he is one of the most durable characters and biggest in size only dwarfed by Ay and he could have transformed into hachibi and then what is a kunai gonna do
 

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Fail again shi sui as stated by Ao the head of the Allied Shinobi forces sensing division said shi sui and itachi can cast genjutsu that no one not even sensors can detect so minato is getting one shotted instantly
Minato's sensory is like tobirama's and has actually PROVEN to be able to expand as far a whole country if needed. I don't think you're understanding very well. That means shisui could be as far as another COUNTRY and minato will still be able to pinpoint his chakra signature, sense him,track him down,and brutally murder the poor bastard without so much as a struggle. Shisui's genjutsu ain't going no where near that far. Nice try. Where did the story even mention that irrelevant shisui could even do that? (That's his new name for now on irrelevant shisui) I heard itachi could do that,but where did it say irrelevant shisui could? What the hell could this guy do lol?? Well..other then being a lost cause?
 
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Minato's sensory is like tobirama's and has actually PROVEN to be able to expand as far a whole country if needed. I don't think you're understanding very well. That means shisui could be as far as another COUNTRY and minato will still be able to pinpoint his chakra signature, sense him,track him down,and brutally murder the poor bastard without so much as a struggle. Shisui's genjutsu ain't going no where near that far. Nice try. Where did the story even mention that irrelevant shisui could even do that? (That's his new name for now on irrelevant shisui) I heard itachi could do that,but where did it say irrelevant shisui could? What the hell could this guy do lol?? Well..other then being a lost cause?
Fail again Ao is in the manga so what he says in manga fact it doesn't matter how far Minato can sense the fact remains shi sui can cast genjutsu without anyone capable of sensing it so keep trying as stated by Ao the head of the Allied Shinobi Forces sensory division
 

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Boy itachi been naruto's dad the whole series he been teaching naruto so without itachi being who he is and guiding both naruto and sasuke the show would be nothing
And the cycle continues. This thread is supposed to be about Minato vs Shisui. No need to keep bringing up Itachi.
Stop making excuses Obito revived Naruto not Minato. And Obito gave him the 2 remaining parts to attain 6psm.
You are the one making excuses. Stop bringing other characters to the mix. This is about Minato vs. Shisui which other users explained why one or the other would win. You don't have anything more to say about the match so you resort to bringing up other characters.
 

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Fail again you said you never heard of shi sui being held as a prodigy moron danzo himself said shi sui was the most talented uchiha of his generation that included itachi and obito

Also itachi is naturally talented while Minato made his fame because of a jutsu his gf family gave to him he literally married into something special. Itachi graduated and made it through the ranks as young as minato and kakashi

And fail again if you say Minato beating a kid obito means anything thats literally his only worthy opponent obito as a kid lacked any experience he lack experience and usage of his kamui and proof is how Minato son the child of prophecy in bm blitzes rival ftg and his famous student kakashi who has obito counter kamui and gai the greatest taijutsu user ever and the original perfect jin could only touch obito once as an adult Minato would get wrecked by those four unlike obito and itachi saved the SA by releasing edo tensei

And no hokage are not always the most powerful in the village jiraya and oro were more powerful than hiruzen, nagato was more powerful than hanzo, kisame clearly shits on mei and is the greatest water jutsu user we ever seen, sasori killed the 3rd kazekage, sasuke naruto are way more powerful than kakashi when he was hokage, gai and kakashi and danzo were more powerful than tsunade so kage being the most powerful means absolutely booboo


Minato wasn't even acknowledged during the war I mean everyone was astonished and in awe of hashirama and tobirama nobody said shit about Minato other than naruto the 4the is your dad lmao kishi even knew he was out of place thats why he gave him an asspull power up which is bm lol like he could train in rds belly or something
The story itself had to hype him up, and make irrelevant shisui out to be more than what he was to make up for the fact that compared to the other uchiha's he's at the bottom of the food chain. He pretty much failed at everything. And the one time get's a semi-worthy opponent so the viewer's can actually see his abilities get tested..He loses, Then he run's away,and kill's himself because he knew a group no name fodder's were coming after him? Not only is that not strong. He's a coward. Btw maybe a jackass like you could answer this question.(I feel you kinda relate) But's what's the point in having a technique in your arsenal that you gotta wait ten years to use again?? What's the deal with that shit? Its sound stupid..Like everything about shisui.

itachi's talented? LMAO! That's a good one.. Itachi's only anything at all as far as his genetic's goes. That's not natural talent. If itachi loses his sharigan he's utter,sheer,garbage. I mean wasn't all that good to begin with. I find it very interesting that itachi seemed avoid fight's with with any of the other jin's after yagura almost killed him lol. Which juzo ended up dying saving him i might add. Minato would have never been hit by that. So that's obviously a loss in case you have problems figuring that out dummy. I can't recall one time where minato had to get saved. So,let establish the situation for a second... The first time itachi got some competition after leaving the village its against one of the weaker jin's and he almost gets killed? LMFAO! Itachi basically died on his first mission with the akatski..That's BEYOND pathetic..Why is this guy overrated again?? Do you realized that every time itachi confronted a huge threat he always had the assistance of those way more powerful then him? Then kisame is the one fighting roshi because itachi was scared LOOL. Sharignan give's itachi like a million skills to aid his,and minato outclasses damn near all of them. Minato on the other hand didn't have and fancy genetics to become powerful. He didn't even need them. Hell.they wouldn't even be of any real use to him. He already had better perception,reaction speed, reflexes,and timing that put the sharingan to shame. For what? Minato's talent's came from his his intelligence. He was a true prodigy. He's was already better than the uchiha. Minato outclasses itachi despite the fact he didn't have a sharingan,byakugan,rinnegan none of that.He even outclassed brilliant geniuses like tobirama in the usage of his their own technique,and even revolutionized it. So fact remains not only did minato have naturally better talent than itachi. He actually had real talent. When did itachi ever create a technique? Ya know what,long story short minato does without a bloodline limit what the uchiha's can't do with one. Most notably itachi.

That 14 kid you're talking is not only smarter and more powerful than itachi could have ever hoped to be but itachi has never faced any opponent that came close to obito. That's why itachi didn't directly purse him. Itachi knew what would have been the outcome. That's why he just snuck around, stayed quiet,and knew his place. If obito wanted to kill itachi their really would have been nothing stopping him 14 years or not. People seem to have a huge problem answering this question. Because of the actual feats we seen from obito at 14. Where did age play a factor? He had enough experience to know what he was doing, strategically plan his attack on the leaf, he was able sneak in unnoticed, he was calm and analytical, He was able to master and perfect his sharigan abilities to the point where he could manipulate tailed beast as powerful as the ninetaisl, manipulate the akatski,accurately carry out madaras plan, and survive a ass kicking from a hokage,by knowing his limits. Obito did all that at 14..He was more of a threat at that age than itachi would have been at 30. Itachi's sharigan couldn't even so much as control tailed beast. If experience meant all that much kakazu wouldn't have lost, he actually fought hashirama and was the oldest member in the akatski. Itachi saved the shinobi alliance? Then what was still going on after he died? Why hundreds of the shinobi alliance still dying at the hands of WAY more powerful enemies like the juubei, The god tree, Madara, Kaguya etc...if itachi saved someone? Itachi got like a second of fame before madara pretty much said in his own way "joke's on you kid"
kakashi didn't know how to counter obito's kamui until he was using his kamui, What in THE hell are you talking about?? If it wasn't for kakashi having one of the enemies eye's then nor,kakashi,bee,naruto,or guy would have never been able to successfully harm obito. Minato outclassed all four them when beat obito,and did it in record timing lol. Minato was able to react and avoid eighth gate guy when juubei madara couldn't even do it. I bet money obito couldn't do that, he admitted his teleportation speed was to slow. Itachi would have never been able to react to obito, eighth gate, or juubito. That would have been funny.

As far as minato goes their was no one in that village as strong as him. He had everything in took to be hokage, Strength,skill,intelligence,wisdom,and the will to actually do the job some of the people you mention didn't even want to do it. The characters you mentioned might have been good kage candidates ,but they were always missing at least one quality. Kisame was insane,and he always killed his teammates,nagato was to easily influenced, sasuke was out of his damn mind,and he had to much hate,gai had ADD and could barely stay focus plus he's handicap, danzo was a madman who also killed his own allies and had no problem slaughtering his own people , kakashi was really the only good choice,and minato was his sensei. Minato had something rather it was a direct connection,or fated similarity in some way to do with every hokage. So strength wasn't always the key.

Not only was minato acknowledged by the shinobi alliance,but also by the other hokages when they finally caught up. I don't know story you're reading. Minato got acknowledgement everywhere he went. On top of all that he was the only hokage that didn't die despite the fact he came in contact with two juubei jins. madara and obito. Minato got more acknowledgement in one scene than shisui and itachi has gotten in their entire life lol. How did minato have a asspull when he gained the power of the kurama 16 years prior to the 4th great ninja war? It can't be a asspull when we as the viewers already knew he had it. Kurama has had his bouts with minato in the past which is why he had mad respect for him to the point he found him worthy to hold his power. Minato died with that power so how is it a asspull? Besides minato was so intelligent to the point where it wasn't complex at all figuring out how to use it. Minato basically outclassed all the jin's in one scene. Kurama even acknowledged his excellence. Itachi, and surely not shisui has ever got that much acknowledgement in their lives.
 
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Fail again Ao is in the manga so what he says in manga fact it doesn't matter how far Minato can sense the fact remains shi sui can cast genjutsu without anyone capable of sensing it so keep trying as stated by Ao the head of the Allied Shinobi Forces sensory division
Ao words were meant for less powerful sensors of lower range. Shisui's genjutsu range is child's play compared to minato. Minato's sensory range would give shisui nightmares, he'll sense the genjutsu coming than proceed to decapitate shisui the second before he even had the chance to process whats going on. Sensors are best the solution for avoiding genjutsu,because their the able to SENSE when it's coming. Shisui wouldn't be able to avoid,counter, react, or run from any attack minato discharges. however, minato would be able to counter anything shisui throws at him though. We'll call him "shisui the irrelevant"
 
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