[VS] Minato VS Sasuke

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As far as susanoo is concerned it can be countered

Susanoo itself can be separated from the user, Gaara for example could use sand to separate madara from his susanoo

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While gaara used his sand, minato would use hiraishin to achieve this

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From the examples it is clear that he can choose what to teleport and what not, If lets say the user activates susanoo and is stabilizing it, minato or a clone can teleport the user out of susanoo to a marking of his choice

Minato->(in contact with)-> susanoo ->(in contact with) user

Madara is teleported while the susanoo is left behind, (which fades away as happened in case of gaara)

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Now all thats left is to kill the user with either rasengan or a kunai
I like how this post was ignored :cool:
 

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As far as susanoo is concerned it can be countered

Susanoo itself can be separated from the user, Gaara for example could use sand to separate madara from his susanoo

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While gaara used his sand, minato would use hiraishin to achieve this

Example 1:

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Example 2:

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From the examples it is clear that he can choose what to teleport and what not, If lets say the user activates susanoo and is stabilizing it, minato or a clone can teleport the user out of susanoo to a marking of his choice

Minato->(in contact with)-> susanoo ->(in contact with) user

Madara is teleported while the susanoo is left behind, (which fades away as happened in case of gaara)

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Now all thats left is to kill the user with either rasengan or a kunai
let's not forget that if minato's kunai is in contact with susano'o he can teleport the susano'o and leave the kunai to travel on course.
eg. what he did with juubidama and what he tried to omnyoudon.
 

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interesting -_- from what I seen so far minato got thing because of 9tail power but sasuke will surpass him soon after kabuto gives him his powers no dobt
 

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As far as susanoo is concerned it can be countered

Susanoo itself can be separated from the user, Gaara for example could use sand to separate madara from his susanoo

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While gaara used his sand, minato would use hiraishin to achieve this
Gaara did this with legless Susanoo....good luck with that when going against Sasuke Complete Susanoo(not that it matters) seeing as how i am going to prove how Minato can't teleport the user from his Susanoo even the Susanoo without legs.​

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Your first example is laughable and here is why....​

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^Here is a scan before Sasuke was teleported....you can see there is a flare coming from Sasuke Ribcage's Susanoo.​

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^Here is a scan after Sasuke was teleported....you can clearly see the same flare(from the Ribcage) was still there after Sasuke was teleported...this clearly indicates the Susanoo never disappear and that Sasuke teleported with the Susanoo since the flare was still there.​

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From the examples it is clear that he can choose what to teleport and what not, If lets say the user activates susanoo and is stabilizing it, minato or a clone can teleport the user out of susanoo to a marking of his choice
I like how you put page 11 of chapter 503 and page 12 into a single page to prove something while leaving out the most important detail...nice try but that's going to work in here.​

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^Here is where Minato is trying to teleport the Kyuubi and the Bijuudama from near Konoha but what you're trying to imply is.....that Minato teleported the Kyuubi and his blast to different places(which is not the case)​

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^Here is the full scan of page 12 and as you can see at the bottom of the page in the right side....the Kyuubi and his blast were teleported in the same place.

Also, look in front of the Kyuubi....see that his blast starts in front of him?

Minato->(in contact with)-> susanoo ->(in contact with) user

Madara is teleported while the susanoo is left behind, (which fades away as happened in case of gaara)

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I don't see how this implies the Susanoo fading away itself when Madara in fact activated the Susanoo in the next page(which would suggest he was the one who in fact deactivated the Susanoo) and let me ask you this....why did it take a whole page for Susanoo to fade away by itself when was separated from?

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Now all thats left is to kill the user with either rasengan or a kunai
Whatever you say.​
 
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Gaara did this with legless Susanoo....good luck with that when going against Sasuke Complete Susanoo(not that it matters) seeing as how i am going to prove how Minato can't teleport the user from his Susanoo even the Susanoo without legs.​
More like you're going to come up with irrelevant BS




I like how you put page 11 of chapter 503 and page 12 into a single page to prove something while leaving out the most important detail...nice try but that's going to work in here.​

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^Here is where Minato is trying to teleport the Kyuubi and the Bijuudama from near Konoha but what you're trying to imply is.....that Minato teleported the Kyuubi and his blast to different places(which is not the case)​

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^Here is the full scan of page 12 and as you can see at the bottom of the page in the right side....the Kyuubi and his blast were teleported in the same place.

Also, look in front of the Kyuubi....see that his blast starts in front of him?
I see nowhere in his post where he said he teleported Kyubi and his Bijudama in 2different places, but whatever, what are you even trying to prove? Even if it didn't happen at that moment, Minato already showed before he can teleport people/things to different markings simultaneously when he teleported Rama and Rizen [ ] [ ]

Finally you're completely wrong. Minato does can decide what to teleport

FTG user can decide what to teleport

Minato already showed to capacity to decide what to teleport regardless if he made a direct/indirect contact with a target, as shown when he teleported Kyubi while leaving Gamabunta behind despite Gamabunta was actually the one he made contact with [ ] [ ]

He did the same thing while saving Naruto and Sasuke against Jubito. Jubito was indirectly connected to him through Naruto and Sasuke(by grabbing their heads to crush them), yet Minato left them behind

So if contact is made with Sasuke's Susanoo, he can directly teleport Sasuke outside since Sasuke is indirectly connected through the Susanoo chakra
 

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More like you're going to come up with irrelevant BS
Says the guy who makes garbage threads on daily basis...oh, the irony!

I see nowhere in his post where he said he teleported Kyubi and his Bijudama in 2different places, but whatever
Having a hard time reading a post now? I said he was "implying"(which is true if you're intelligent enough to understand his post) but i guess that doesn't apply to you.​

what are you even trying to prove?
That Minato can't teleport the Susanoo from its user? Are you that slow?​

Even if it didn't happen at that moment, Minato already showed before he can teleport people/things to different markings simultaneously when he teleported Rama and Rizen [ ] [ ]
How does this prove Minato being able to teleport the Susanoo from its user? I already know Minato can teleport people to different places and i am not denying it....but him teleporting the Susanoo by itself and leaving the user is a different case.

Finally you're completely wrong. Minato does can decide what to teleport

FTG user can decide what to teleport

Minato already showed to capacity to decide what to teleport regardless if he made a direct/indirect contact with a target, as shown when he teleported Kyubi while leaving Gamabunta behind despite Gamabunta was actually the one he made contact with [ ] [ ]

He did the same thing while saving Naruto and Sasuke against Jubito. Jubito was indirectly connected to him through Naruto and Sasuke(by grabbing their heads to crush them), yet Minato left them behind

So if contact is made with Sasuke's Susanoo, he can directly teleport Sasuke outside since Sasuke is indirectly connected through the Susanoo chakra
You just destroyed yourself by posting that....you proved that both the Bijuudama and Kurama were teleported at the same place when Minato used his FTG on them....just like i was saying how both Sasuke and his Susanoo were teleported by letting Naruto garb Sasuke's robe(Whose Ribcage Susanoo was already broken from Juubito's attack).....and both the Bijuudama and Kurama were still connected do to Kurama still being able to hold the Bijuudama with his Chakra.​

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Says the guy who makes garbage threads on daily basis...oh, the irony!
Threads surpassing your level of comprehension =/= garbage, but have you ever seen an idiot acknowledging he is one, so better for me is to leave you with your behavior in order for my IQ not to drop to your pitful level


Having a hard time reading a post now? I said he was "implying"(which is true if you're intelligent enough to understand his post) but i guess that doesn't apply to you.​
And you made long post concerning an "implication" not only non-confirmed but totally irrelevant to the point? Just like i was saying above

That Minato can't teleport the Susanoo from its user? Are you that slow?​
And arguing about the capacity to teleport things/people to different markings relate to that how?

How does this prove Minato being able to teleport the Susanoo from its user? I already know Minato can teleport people to different places and i am not denying it....but him teleporting the Susanoo by itself and leaving the user is a different case.
I proved nothing concerning that there. I only played the role of the teacher for you to understand a simple thing coming from an irrelevant point in this versus thread, but it seems even you don't understand what you're posting


You just destroyed yourself by posting that....you proved that both the Bijuudama and Kurama were teleported at the same place when Minato used his FTG on them....just like i was saying how both Sasuke and his Susanoo were teleported by letting Naruto garb Sasuke's robe(Whose Ribcage Susanoo was already broken from Juubito's attack).....and both the Bijuudama and Kurama were still connected do to Kurama still being able to hold the Bijuudama with his Chakra.​

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Once again, the point of this post? Whether Minato teleported Kyubi and his Bijudama in the same place or not related how in the capacity to teleport a Susanoo user out of his Susanoo? Whether Minato teleported Kyubi and his Bijudama in the same place changes what when you know he could have done it if he wanted? We're not arguing if A did something, we're arguing to know if he can do something, only thing relevant to determine a victor in a versus thread
 

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Threads surpassing your level of comprehension =/= garbage
You mean like making a thread that's claiming "Bansho tenin > Susanoo" despite being proven wrong? Yes, that's truly beyond my comprehension.​



but have you ever seen an idiot acknowledging he is one
If i did...you would be the first one.​

so better for me is to leave you with your behavior in order for my IQ not to drop to your pitful level
For one's IQ to get dropped...he/she must actually have one to begin with but that's not in your case...correct?

At least, call someone "pitiful" when you actually have the ability to spell the word correctly.​

And you made long post concerning an "implication" not only non-confirmed but totally irrelevant to the point? Just like i was saying above
So, what he was saying needs to be confirmed even though it's clear as day to understand what he was implying? That might be needed to be cleared for people with tiny brains(like you) but not for me son.​

And arguing about the capacity to teleport things/people to different markings relate to that how?
If you actually had any brain cells..you would realize that it was a reply to End of Days post(Which by the way was saying Minato can separated the Susanoo from the user)​

I proved nothing concerning that there. I only played the role of the teacher for you to understand a simple thing coming from an irrelevant point in this versus thread, but it seems even you don't understand what you're posting
You're trying too hard by acting like some kind of bad-ass when in fact you're only repeating things i already know...clear your thoughts before posting.​

Once again, the point of this post? Whether Minato teleported Kyubi and his Bijudama in the same place or not related how in the capacity to teleport a Susanoo user out of his Susanoo? Whether Minato teleported Kyubi and his Bijudama in the same place changes what when you know he could have done it if he wanted? We're not arguing if A did something, we're arguing to know if he can do something, only thing relevant to determine a victor in a versus thread
There is nothing worst than a hypocrite.

I could careless if Minato could have done it or not....The question here is...does he have feats of doing it in the manga?​
 
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Yin and yang kurama are exactly the same
Moreover minato managed to make a TBB exactly the same as naruto did whilst attacking juubito so it's fair to allow minato to have naruto bm feats
Sasukes PS hasn't stabilized yet.. Had only one sword compared to madara havng 2 and is half the size of madaras... It's attack also didn't have any shockwaves... So giving sasuke.. Madaras ps feats isn't very logical

Saying that... Minato in BM is too much for sasuke with bm firepower and FTG
Even if sasuke is given madaras ps... Minato has the firepower durability an speed to defeat sasuke
 

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There is nothing worst than a hypocrite.

I could careless if Minato could have done it or not....The question here is...does he have feats of doing it in the manga?​
Finally a question straight to the point, only thing you did good so far and something i already replied to

Finally you're completely wrong. Minato does can decide what to teleport

FTG user can decide what to teleport

Minato already showed to capacity to decide what to teleport regardless if he made a direct/indirect contact with a target, as shown when he teleported Kyubi while leaving Gamabunta behind despite Gamabunta was actually the one he made contact with [ ] [ ]

He did the same thing while saving Naruto and Sasuke against Jubito. Jubito was indirectly connected to him through Naruto and Sasuke(by grabbing their heads to crush them), yet Minato left them behind

So if contact is made with Sasuke's Susanoo, he can directly teleport Sasuke outside since Sasuke is indirectly connected through the Susanoo chakra
But if you still don't understand, i'll slow it a bit

1- Minato can teleport anything connected to him or his chakra [ ]
2- Susanoo is a chakra manifestation from the user's will
3- So Susanoo user is connected to his Susanoo through the Susanoo chakra
4- So Minato touching the Susanoo chakra would be indirectly connected to the user
5- Minato showed the capacity to decide what to teleport when something comes in contact with him or his chakra(see above)
6- So connected to Susanoo's chakra and indirectly connected to the user, he can decide to teleport the Susanoo user while leaving the Susanoo behind just like he did with Gamabunta, with Jubito and so on

Understand now?
 

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Finally a question straight to the point, only thing you did good so far and something i already replied to



But if you still don't understand, i'll slow it a bit

1- Minato can teleport anything connected to him or his chakra [ ]
2- Susanoo is a chakra manifestation from the user's will
3- So Susanoo user is connected to his Susanoo through the Susanoo chakra
4- So Minato touching the Susanoo chakra would be indirectly connected to the user
5- Minato showed the capacity to decide what to teleport when something comes in contact with him or his chakra(see above)
6- So connected to Susanoo's chakra and indirectly connected to the user, he can decide to teleport the Susanoo user while leaving the Susanoo behind just like he did with Gamabunta, with Jubito and so on

Understand now?
The Susanoo is a manifestation of the user's Chakra that's turn into physical...i don't know where you got the Susanoo being the user's will and neither as it ever been stated in this manga.

Here is Tobirama talking about the special Chakra that sprouts in the brains of the Uchiha Clan that allows change in their eyes(which would be the Mangekyō Sharingan)....so, it's logical to say that same Chakra is used to create the Susanoo...​

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The Susanoo is a manifestation of the user's Chakra that's turn into physical...i don't know where you got the Susanoo being the user's will and neither as it ever been stated in this manga.

Here is Tobirama talking about the special Chakra that sprouts in the brains of the Uchiha Clan that allows change in their eyes(which would be the Mangekyō Sharingan)....so, it's logical to say that same Chakra is used to create the Susanoo...​

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What you said doesn't counter his statement. Minato can only teleport what's connected to his chakra anyways
 

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What you said doesn't counter his statement. Minato can only teleport what's connected to his chakra anyways
The point here isn't what Minato can teleport but rather if he has the ability to teleport an object and its user from each other if they are not in a direct contact with each other chakra .​



Minato: "It won't work unless there's direct contact with myself or my chakra...."

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Minato only reason for ever teleporting Sasuke in the begin was because his Chakra was in a direct contact with Naruto(who himself had the Kyuubi Chakra like Minato at that time) and because Naruto latched on to both Minato and Sasuke...this allowed Minato to teleport both of them through Naruto and his Chakra arms(which by the way are made from the same Chakra as Minato Kyuubi Mode) ....this in no way means Minato has the ability to teleport Susanoo from its user.

Read the post before replying.​
 
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The point here isn't what Minato can teleport but rather if he has the ability to teleport an object and its user from each other if they are not in a direct contact with each other chakra .​



Minato: "It won't work unless there's direct contact with myself or my chakra...."

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Minato only reason for ever teleporting Sasuke in the begin was because his Chakra was in a direct contact with Naruto(who himself has the Kyuubi Chakra like Minato at that time) and because Naruto latched on to both Minato and Sasuke...this allowed Minato to teleport both of them through Naruto and his Chakra arms(which by the way are made from the same Chakra as Minato Kyuubi Mode) ....this in no way means Minato has the ability to teleport Susanoo from its user.

Read the post before replying.​

That Kurama comment was icing on the cake. I have brought it up about ten thousand times that Minato cannot teleport Chakra that is intricately connected to the user, as TBB being still in Kurama's mouth proves it. Also, the Chakra point was also valid.

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