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Who said that EDO's will get a speed boost?

Do u really think Minato managed to use shadow clone only because he is an EDO and never used it when he is alive?Every EDO feat of Minato = Base Minato feat as long as he don't need Kyuubi's chakra to perform it.

It was clearly stated in manga that EDO's are simply weaker versions of their alive forms with unlimited chakra.
This is just empty speculation. Edos have shown better feats than their alive counterparts, especially Hizuren and Minato. The fact that despite the 'Life and Death' situation - his wife ended up dying - he didn't use it, means, his reserves are pitiful to support such a fighting style. Another fact supporting it is that he possesses the Toad/Frog Contracts yet doesn't possess Sage Mode.

Weaker Versions, given the vast discrepancy between Hizuren and Edo Hizuren feats? Yeah okay.
 

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Minato takes this...

Minato can litterally redirect anything that sasuke fires at him back at sasuke..

Minato's speed even when not in KCM mode is legendary even tobirama commented about how minato's sunshin was faster than his own and even madara acknowledged tobirama's speed

then you have minato's reactions which are easily the best in the manga which allows FTG to be used at its full potential

his use of shadowclones means that he can put a seal on anything even if its dangerous.. so sasuke covering himself with enton.. so what its a clone that doesnt get hurt and can still place the seal.. and one the seal has been placed it is over..

anything sasuke then does is pointless ... since minato can litterally not just redirect the blast but litterally place the technique back on sasuke..

minato can redirect the jutsu directly on someone else as long as they have the seal placed on them ..

sorry but sasuke isnt winning this at all

This is just empty speculation. Edos have shown better feats than their alive counterparts, especially Hizuren and Minato. The fact that despite the 'Life and Death' situation - his wife ended up dying - he didn't use it, means, his reserves are pitiful to support such a fighting style. Another fact supporting it is that he possesses the Toad/Frog Contracts yet doesn't possess Sage Mode.

Weaker Versions, given the vast discrepancy between Hizuren and Edo Hizuren feats? Yeah okay.
KCM virtually doesnt benifit minato in any way apart from maybe a little speed boost to an already fast character..

KCM an increase in chakra to someone who had unlimted chakra anyways.. pointless..

now you say minato's chakra reserves are pitiful.. are you kidding me!

FTG took 3 people to perform apart from Minato and Tobirama

Minato spams it like there is no tomorrow and can use various variations of it aswell as using rasengan aswell .. he took out an entire battlefeild of shinobi using FTG and then still had plenty of chakra to go back and help kakashi when he was in trouble.. with still chakra left over..

also did you ever think that minato just didnt get the chance to learn sage mode yet before his death? this is not proof he has low chakra

anything KCM minato can do then base minato can also do.. he might not be able to do it as much but with minato the battle normally ends in the blink of an eye anyways
 
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Minato did FTG blitz the Raikage in his V2 form, who is faster than Sasuke.

OT: Sasuke wins mid-high diff.
On-foot? Show me the scan. Because this 'Never' happened. Minato's and Raikage's reaction rates are literally sky and earth kind of affair:

What if Raikage did not allow him to spread the tags here:


He would have been surely dead:


I mean he just looked on as Minato casually threw his tags around.
 

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On-foot? Show me the scan. Because this 'Never' happened. Minato's and Raikage's reaction rates are literally sky and earth kind of affair:

What if Raikage did not allow him to spread the tags here:


He would have been surely dead:


I mean he just looked on as Minato casually threw his tags around.
No not on foot, I said FTG blitz man.

Yes, they are far apart in reactions because Minato reacted to him while throwing a Kunai and the only reason A didn't get a Kunai in his back was because of Bee. u_u
 

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This is just empty speculation. Edos have shown better feats than their alive counterparts, especially Hizuren and Minato. The fact that despite the 'Life and Death' situation - his wife ended up dying - he didn't use it, means, his reserves are pitiful to support such a fighting style. Another fact supporting it is that he possesses the Toad/Frog Contracts yet doesn't possess Sage Mode.

Weaker Versions, given the vast discrepancy between Hizuren and Edo Hizuren feats? Yeah okay.
It won't prove anything,here we are talking about Minato's speed and his basic fighting skill which has nothing to do with his chakra pool and he didn't use SC against Obito because it is nothing more than waste of chakra and it wouldn't have helped him by any means. simple as that not even hard to understand.

He not only used SC but also managed to combine it with a high level jutsu such as FTG,it takes 3 jounin level shinobi just to perform the jutsu and still u think is not capable of using SC and he managed to pull that feat all of a sudden in the middle of war while holding the god damn barrier without using it when he is alive? great logic u got there.
 
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No not on foot, I said FTG blitz man.

Yes, they are far apart in reactions because Minato reacted to him while throwing a Kunai and the only reason A didn't get a Kunai in his back was because of Bee. u_u
Yet his FTG was intercepted both times by Bee, who is shown to be a superior fighter. No he didn't. Minato FTG'd to a Kunai already stuck in the tree and then back again. There is a Kunai right under the point he appeared to attack Ae and got intercepted by Bee's Partial Tail Transformation.

It won't prove anything,here we are talking about Minato's speed and his basic fighting skill which has nothing to do with his chakra pool and he didn't use SC against Obito because it is nothing more than waste of chakra and it wouldn't have helped him by any means. simple as that not even hard to understand.

He not only used SC but also managed to combine it with a high level jutsu such as FTG,it takes 3 jounin level shinobi just to perform the jutsu and still u think is not capable of using SC and he managed to pull that feat all of a sudden in the middle of war while holding the god damn barrier without using it when he is alive? great logic u got there.
Body-Flicker is a freaking Ninjutsu. What do you mean it doesn't have anything to do with an Edo body that has unlimited Physical and Mental Energy? Minato teleported such a large TBB from the Jubbi like it was nothing, that literally dwarfed out Hachibi and Kurama - they were literally much smaller than 50/th of its size and showed no signs of fatigue, when they were throwing TBBs at it. In real life, he teleported a single BD and Kurama and used Rasangan once and was literally out of Chakra. Please. Heck, his Edo body even allows his to perform KCM in the first place, which he never could have with his alive body.

Also - - Brought back to life, almost at their full power – Tobirama and Hashirama. Even Tobirama and Hashirama were brought back at their full power.

KCM virtually doesnt benifit minato in any way apart from maybe a little speed boost to an already fast character..

KCM an increase in chakra to someone who had unlimted chakra anyways.. pointless..

now you say minato's chakra reserves are pitiful.. are you kidding me!

FTG took 3 people to perform apart from Minato and Tobirama

Minato spams it like there is no tomorrow and can use various variations of it aswell as using rasengan aswell .. he took out an entire battlefeild of shinobi using FTG and then still had plenty of chakra to go back and help kakashi when he was in trouble.. with still chakra left over..

also did you ever think that minato just didnt get the chance to learn sage mode yet before his death? this is not proof he has low chakra

anything KCM minato can do then base minato can also do.. he might not be able to do it as much but with minato the battle normally ends in the blink of an eye anyways
So, This proves what? That Teleportation doesn't require much chakra? KCM offers little speed boost? Yeah okay. Kyubi Chakra for more powerful techniques, Chakra arms, etc? As I said to the guy above, he doesn't even posses SM, despite having the contract. Then we have his Edo TBB and Real Life Large Object teleportations.
 

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Body-Flicker is a freaking Ninjutsu. What do you mean it doesn't have anything to do with an Edo body that has unlimited Physical and Mental Energy? Minato teleported such a large TBB from the Jubbi like it was nothing, that literally dwarfed out Hachibi and Kurama - they were literally much smaller than 50/th of its size and showed no signs of fatigue, when they were throwing TBBs at it. In real life, he teleported a single BD and Kurama and used Rasangan once and was literally out of Chakra. Please. Heck, his Edo body even allows his to perform KCM in the first place, which he never could have with his alive body.

Also - - Brought back to life, almost at their full power – Tobirama and Hashirama. Even Tobirama and Hashirama were brought back at their full power.
I know that it was a ninjutsu,here Iam asking u to tell me how in blue hell can being an EDO would increase the speed of Minato's shunshin? If he can use shunshin 10 times when he is alive then he can spam it a 100 times or even more in his EDO form. that's it,being an EDO's won't make his shunshin any faster.

And that scan won't prove anything as they are still below their real strength and Madara conformed it.
 
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Yet his FTG was intercepted both times by Bee, who is shown to be a superior fighter. No he didn't. Minato FTG'd to a Kunai already stuck in the tree and then back again. There is a Kunai right under the point he appeared to attack Ae and got intercepted by Bee's Partial Tail Transformation.



Body-Flicker is a freaking Ninjutsu. What do you mean it doesn't have anything to do with an Edo body that has unlimited Physical and Mental Energy? Minato teleported such a large TBB from the Jubbi like it was nothing, that literally dwarfed out Hachibi and Kurama - they were literally much smaller than 50/th of its size and showed no signs of fatigue, when they were throwing TBBs at it. In real life, he teleported a single BD and Kurama and used Rasangan once and was literally out of Chakra. Please. Heck, his Edo body even allows his to perform KCM in the first place, which he never could have with his alive body.

Also - - Brought back to life, almost at their full power – Tobirama and Hashirama. Even Tobirama and Hashirama were brought back at their full power.



So, This proves what? That Teleportation doesn't require much chakra? KCM offers little speed boost? Yeah okay. Kyubi Chakra for more powerful techniques, Chakra arms, etc? As I said to the guy above, he doesn't even posses SM, despite having the contract. Then we have his Edo TBB and Real Life Large Object teleportations.
no it proves that he has a large chakra pool since it took 3 jonin to use FTG aswell when minato spams it.. never said that KCM offers little speed boost but to a character that is already rediculously fast how much faster can KCM make Minato?

minato hasnt used chakra arms even once in the manga and hasnt been using many techs that would require kurama's chakra to improve it..

so what if he doesnt have sage mode.. just because he has the contract doesnt mean he has to have sage mode..

Minato has already been shown to be able to teleport large scale objects when he teleported without the need of kurama's chakra.. plus minato teleported the juubi's TBB without using KCM when he entered the battlefeild.. meaning that he had the chakra pool to be able to teleport such a large scale attack.. if he didnt have the chakra pool for it he wouldnt be able to do it dispite being edo since edo doesnt increase your chakra pool it just makes it so you dont lose chakra.. if a technique exceeds the amount of chakra you have in your chakra pool then you wont be able to do it which minato clearly could do it
 

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Yet his FTG was intercepted both times by Bee, who is shown to be a superior fighter. No he didn't. Minato FTG'd to a Kunai already stuck in the tree and then back again. There is a Kunai right under the point he appeared to attack Ae and got intercepted by Bee's Partial Tail Transformation.
Minato would have killed A if not for Bee, that's a fact my man. Don't know why you're making all these excuses for A.
 

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^ That Kunai would have penetrated his V2 Raiton-Armour? I don't think so. What excuses?



This opinion must be an acquired taste then.
Minato has everything it takes to defeat sasuke and more and ive stated how in my previous posts.. i dont need to say much more in the end it comes down to opinion

Also this is the kunai that cut through bee's tentacle as if it were butter it wouldnt surprise me if his kunai would go through his raiton armor
 

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idk how minato would win. if he scatters kunai, sasuke can just fire enton magatama at all but one and force him to go there. onces he forces minato to a place killing him would be all to easy
 

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Minato has everything it takes to defeat sasuke and more and ive stated how in my previous posts.. i dont need to say much more in the end it comes down to opinion

Also this is the kunai that cut through bee's tentacle as if it were butter it wouldnt surprise me if his kunai would go through his raiton armo
Cut through a partial transformation, nothing more.
 
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