Minato vs Pain

[TheEvilOne]

so wait? you're saying pain wasn't serious? he seemed pretty serious to me. It's not like st is a 1 shot kill move, and both choji and choza shown the ability to do things immediately after getting hit.

They are not twink boys like Minato though.

 

[LustyLover]

They are not twink boys like Minato though.

Lmao he does look like one.

 

[Zexion~]

so wait? you're saying pain wasn't serious? he seemed pretty serious to me. It's not like st is a 1 shot kill move, and both choji and choza shown the ability to do things immediately after getting hit.

He was using it in defense....not offense

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Not to mention Kakashi and Chouji were behind those who were KO'd by it.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

He was using it in defense....not offense

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Not to mention Kakashi and Chouji were behind those who were KO'd by it.

They are not twink boys like Minato though.

naruto got hit by it multiple times and didn't die either. Same goes for kakashi.
that doesn't change its strength though.

kakashi got hit by it directly before that, and after that, choza and choji got hit after, all 3 lived, and kakashi finally keeled over after getting hit like 4 times due to chakra exhaustion.

So again its not a ohko, and minato can use clones to force the window.

@bold im mad i looked that up-_-

 

[Booker]

If a basic ST can one-shot Minato, he obviously loses.

If it doesn't, Minato rebounds and blitzes the shit out of the Paths with both Shunshin and FTG. Even Sage Mode Naruto was capable of one-shotting a Path off of a blitz, which Minato replicates without even trying (at least to every Path except Deva). Then, once he's in general range placing several ACTUAL markings around the ground would give him the versatility with FTG to avoid future ST blasts and to initiate his own attacks. Thrown in massive distractions like Food Cart Destroyer, and Minato can pull off a win here.

Even then it would be high difficulty since FTG isn't a guaranteed counter to ST every single time, and I have no clue if Minato can even survive the initial ST (which he isn't avoiding).

 

[Mellanoma]

ST doesn't kill any one as its just gravitational pushing or pulling. What kills you is impact from outside forces. STed into a wall or pulled into Asura blade so saying Minato would be killed by that is false especially since he can FTG away.

Anyways the reason why I say minato loses and I hate that im doing this but people on this board constantly underestimate the sheer power that Pain/Nagato is capable of. Pain imo is arguably one of the most powerful characters in this series in terms of raw power capabilities.

Reasons Minato loses:


No counter for: Animal Path which Pain can use simultaneously with his other paths: They also gave Jiraiya and Naruto the most Hassle but due to their own summons they could combat them. Minato based on feats won't have the stamina to summon the frog arsenal naruto and jiraiya did

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Deva Path in combination with Preta Path and Asura Path negates Minato's entire arsenal.

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The only reason Naruto won that fight is:

1) He had FULL INTEL literally

2) Plot Senjutsu frog statue GG on preta path.


The only thing minato can do is escape due to FTG but with the combined efforts of all 3 paths Minato lacks any proper offensive capabilities that would break Pain's arsenal.

As someone mentioned before you need to be a powerhouse to break pain.

They are not twink boys like Minato though.

cant believe Geralt chased that ***** for 3 games and when he finally catch her she curve him. Witch hoes i tell ya

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Minato takes this.

 

[Amenotejikara]

Lol minato wank never ends. That exploiting 5sec cooldown is meaningless with shared vision. As i said b4 in other threads, minato is one of those type of characters who either win by blitz or outlasting otherwise he loses.

 

[Oblivionx]

SM naruto was blitzing pain. Lol @ people thinking minato won't do better. He has everything that naruto had and better. He has ftg barrier which can send ashura's missiles to preta and make them kill their own teammates. Minato is a tactical genius. Saying pain would beat him in strategy is utter bullshit. ftg coupled with clones and toads shit on pain. And minato can summon one toad and that can summon others. It's no big deal and he is a SM user too. Even if he can't hold it for long, doesn't change the fact that he can gather nature energy. Don't even get me started on sound genjutsu where pain has no way to kill sage toads with minato around thus no way to avoid sound genjutsu.

 

[Mellanoma]

SM naruto was blitzing pain. Lol @ people thinking minato won't do better. He has everything that naruto had and better. He has ftg barrier which can send ashura's missiles to preta and make them kill their own teammates. Minato is a tactical genius. Saying pain would beat him in strategy is utter bullshit. ftg coupled with clones and toads shit on pain. And minato can summon one toad and that can summon others. It's no big deal and he is a SM user too. Even if he can't hold it for long, doesn't change the fact that he can gather nature energy. Don't even get me started on sound genjutsu where pain has no way to kill sage toads with minato around thus no way to avoid sound genjutsu.

Also just because Jiraiya and Naruto did it doesn't mean minato can. Based on feats he has stamina issues


1) Naruto had full Intel (MOST CRITICAL FACTOR)
2) Asura path was wrecked before the fight began
3) Deva path was recovering his power during the entire fight

Jiraiya in his entire arsenal died trying to figure out pain.

Now ask yourself this:

Take away full intel
Bring Asura Path
Give Deva path his powers

You really think Naruto would have won that fight?

 

[BLAZE]

CST pastes everything around along with minato

 

[Oblivionx]

Also just because Jiraiya and Naruto did it doesn't mean minato can. Based on feats he has stamina issues


1) Naruto had full Intel (MOST CRITICAL FACTOR)
2) Asura path was wrecked before the fight began
3) Deva path was recovering his power during the entire fight

Jiraiya in his entire arsenal died trying to figure out pain.

Now ask yourself this:

Take away full intel
Bring Asura Path
Give Deva path his powers

You really think Naruto would have won that fight?

I didn't know intel card was being played here. Well if minato has no intel on pain while pain has intel on minato then pain wins high diff simply because minato will be difficult to kill till he is exhausted trying to figure out pain. Though he is smarter than both naruto and jiraya and jiraya figured pain out by the end of his fight so minato still has a chance here.
But if both have no intel then minato wins rather easily. Because despite all secrets of pain, all paths can be killed with a rasengan, yes even preta if caught off guard. And minato will simply tag all pain once since naruto did that, so that isn't even questionable. Also if pain has no intel too then he won't fear engaging minato in cqc. So once all are tagged, no pain can react to ftg blitz so there will be no need to figure pain out. This strategy can work even when pain has intel but pain might avoid it somehow if he knows. That's me being lenient.

 

[Mellanoma]

I didn't know intel card was being played here. Well if minato has no intel on pain while pain has intel on minato then pain wins high diff simply because minato will be difficult to kill till he is exhausted trying to figure out pain. Though he is smarter than both naruto and jiraya and jiraya figured pain out by the end of his fight so minato still has a chance here.
But if both have no intel then minato wins rather easily. Because despite all secrets of pain, all paths can be killed with a rasengan, yes even preta if caught off guard. And minato will simply tag all pain once since naruto did that, so that isn't even questionable. Also if pain has no intel too then he won't fear engaging minato in cqc. So once all are tagged, no pain can react to ftg blitz so there will be no need to figure pain out. This strategy can work even when pain has intel but pain might avoid it somehow if he knows. That's me being lenient.

Im done

 

[Oblivionx]

Im done

:sdo3:

 

[Cornson]

honestly, its an interesting match up and it could go either way without intel (if none of them really knows about the others abilities) but with intel i would give it to Minato.