Minato Vs Orochimaru

[Nattana]

Dunno where you see me giving him KCM feats. I'm describing the effect of the rasengan jutsu. You mean the beginner rasengan Naruto used on Kabuto is on Minato's level? What a joke.

Concerning Obito, do you forget that it cut his hand and was so heavily damaged that he fled directly after the hit?

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When you know that thanks to Hashirama's DNA, he got regenerative abilities, plus the fact he has an entire laboratory full of Zetsu suit to change his damaged bodies, no wonder he fled after that

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What does Hashi DNA have to do with Rasengan? It if was strong enough, Obito wouldn't have any time to flee, regenerate and change his bodies. We've seen Obito surviving point-blank Rasengan without much damage and his blood dripping on the ground, which suggests, that he tanked it with his human body.
Minato's Rasengan wouldn't even force Orochimaru to use his Body Replacement.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

someone had blazekev banned from the thread?? How do people do that?

You can threadban people?

That's awesome.

 

[Bogard]

What does Hashi DNA have to do with Rasengan? It if was strong enough, Obito wouldn't have any time to flee, regenerate and change his bodies. We've seen Obito surviving point-blank Rasengan without much damage and his blood dripping on the ground, which suggests, that he tanked it with his human body.
Minato's Rasengan wouldn't even force Orochimaru to use his Body Replacement.

Obito was internally damaged just like Kabuto. The pressure was so great that it cut his left arm. Do you even see the pics you post? Did you see the level of damage it caused on the ground? It litterally transformed the entire battlefield where they were into a new one. Orochimaru has no tanking feats that suggest the nonsense you're referring to. Orochimaru doesn't even have regeneration abilities like Kabuto or Obito, so if he receives a rasengan, he would be severly damage and may even die

 

[Curse Mark]

You can threadban people?

That's awesome.

Fanboy: Eliminated

 

[Nattana]

Obito was internally damaged just like Kabuto. The pressure was so great that it cut his left arm. Do you even see the pics you post? Did you see the level of damage it caused on the ground? It litterally transformed the entire battlefield where they were into a new one. Orochimaru has no tanking feats that suggest the nonsense you're referring to. Orochimaru doesn't even have regeneration abilities like Kabuto or Obito, so if he receives a rasengan, he would be severly damage and may even die

Tanking feat.

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Point-blank, precise punch from Tsunade. He tanked that like no problem. He also took Chakra Scalpel to his chest and another one to his throat at the same time. Internal damage isn't killing him either.

I think I'm stopping our discussion, since every manga scan I post you don't care about and counter them with some weird assumptions, even though manga states otherwise. We've seen Minato's damage with Rasengan and it's not that impressive. Even rusty Tsunade's punches and kicks showed more destructive power than Rasengan, yet Oro survived a direct punch with no effort.

 

[Bogard]

Tanking feat.

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Point-blank, precise punch from Tsunade. He tanked that like no problem. He also took Chakra Scalpel to his chest and another one to his throat at the same time. Internal damage isn't killing him either.

I think I'm stopping our discussion, since every manga scan I post you don't care about and counter them with some weird assumptions, even though manga states otherwise. We've seen Minato's damage with Rasengan and it's not that impressive. Even rusty Tsunade's punches and kicks showed more destructive power than Rasengan, yet Oro survived a direct punch with no effort.

Don't you see he was almost out of gas after that punch, reason why they had to go? And no, you're wrong rusty Tsunade has never shown something even close to the level of Minato's rasengan destructive feats(i don't remember her having changed an entire battlefield with a punch if i remember correctly). In terms of size and feats, Minato's rasengan has even shown greater power than Naruto's normal one(whether in SM or KCM), and i can back up everything what i said with manga scans. It's only you the one underestimating it, but i guess we should stop like you said

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

1 this just shows how overrated Tsunade's punches are
2 well... if I see this picture well then Oro is rendered unable to fight... this is more a of a'getting shat on' ability than an actual "tanking ability" (something for example the 3rd raikage has)

 

[Nattana]

1 this just shows how overrated Tsunade's punches are
2 well... if I see this picture well then Oro is rendered unable to fight... this is more a of a'getting shat on' ability than an actual "tanking ability" (something for example the 3rd raikage has)

He wasn't unable to fight. He just retreated since he realised that he had nothing to do there anymore. Tsunade didn't want to heal him so he lost interest in her.
He wouldn't be smirking at her with irony if he was sooo badly hurt.

And about her punches. Overrated or not, seeing damage they do, they should be able to destroy Orochimaru if he wasn't more resillient than normal characters.

 

[Bogard]

Sakura and Tsunade use the same technique, but look. Even with 2direct punches on Zetsu not only she didn't kill him, but it barely scratched the ground

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I suppose their power is weak after all

 

[Nattana]

Sakura and Tsunade use the same technique, but look. Even with 2direct punches on Zetsu not only she didn't kill him, but it barely scratched the ground

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I suppose their power is weak after all

She didn't want to kill him lol. Seriously, just stop.

 

[Touken]

Without a brain, people lose the ability to think. Damn, this is basic biology.

Even something as such as a reflex which is regarded as automatic is ultimately stemmed from the brain. It consists of a reflex arc which consists of sensory/relay/motor neurons. Without these neurons (that come from the brain), a person can literally do nothing.

Without the ability to think, how will the body know to regenerate said limbs?

 

[Nattana]

Without a brain, people lose the ability to think. Damn, this is basic biology.

Even something as such as a reflex which is regarded as automatic is ultimately stemmed from the brain. It consists of a reflex arc which consists of sensory/relay/motor neurons. Without these neurons (that come from the brain), a person can literally do nothing.

Without the ability to think, how will the body know to regenerate said limbs?

Because his ability to think resides in his True Form?

 

[Draegod]

Obito was internally damaged just like Kabuto. The pressure was so great that it cut his left arm. Do you even see the pics you post? Did you see the level of damage it caused on the ground? It litterally transformed the entire battlefield where they were into a new one. Orochimaru has no tanking feats that suggest the nonsense you're referring to. Orochimaru doesn't even have regeneration abilities like Kabuto or Obito, so if he receives a rasengan, he would be severly damage and may even die

First off, do not compare rasengans of Naruto Km/sage mode to minatos! He is wayyyyy out of minatos leaague when it comes to that jutsu!

Second; Do not compare any level of rasengan to a TBB! That is a fail!

Then you out right ignore the fact that obito jump and recovered asap from the attack! -_____-

SInce you wanna add fanfiction and say he instantly cuts head off no problem then marks the head, then tele' the head as if he would do that and oru will just watch him have his way; ill say Oru Goes Hydra Mode ASAP then destroys minato No difficulty! Minato isn't fast at striking even with FTg on an opp that is aware of him. And un till the manga says Decapp can kill him it is no proof that it would. When there is undisputed manga proof that Oru cannot die from physical attacks like cuts. He has shown it time and time, what don't you all get! Plus the fact his True form is in his body, not his Mind or head.

Minato has no counter for hydra mode nor true form, Oru wins every single time! Oru knows minato and his secrets while Minato barely has anything on oru and even underestimates his talents. Oru is smarter no disputing, and has more outs then minato. And if the only argument any of you have is decap (when i proved with life and manga facts it will not work).

Obito never showed he healed from minato rasengan the moment he was hit, that is fanfiction with 0 manga proof. And Oru has take way worse things then a rasengan and has survived! Rasengan isnt killing him, and isnt killing allot of ninjas shown btw. Show basic rasengan feats not anything from naruto sm/km/bm using rasengan.

 

[Draegod]

Without a brain, people lose the ability to think. Damn, this is basic biology.

Even something as such as a reflex which is regarded as automatic is ultimately stemmed from the brain. It consists of a reflex arc which consists of sensory/relay/motor neurons. Without these neurons (that come from the brain), a person can literally do nothing.

Without the ability to think, how will the body know to regenerate said limbs?

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Reread the manga please!

 

[Draegod]

Sakura and Tsunade use the same technique, but look. Even with 2direct punches on Zetsu not only she didn't kill him, but it barely scratched the ground

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I suppose their power is weak after all

And no, sakura and tsunade do not use the same technique nor is sakura even remotely close to tsunade in strength at base! Sakura use Chakra enhanced strength, Tsunade has natural raw strength!

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Again with the Kakuzu scans?

I already proved that Kakuzu getting heart stabbed had nothing to do with the masks. The masks are controlled by his brain/chakra, not his heart.

As for Sasori, he was a puppet.

Orochimaru is neither a puppet nor immortal.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Sakura and Tsunade use the same technique, but look. Even with 2direct punches on Zetsu not only she didn't kill him, but it barely scratched the ground

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I suppose their power is weak after all

Sakura obviously didn't wanted to destroy the whole camp. Not to mention Tsunade's raw strength is already monstrous.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

lmao you didnt prove anything! fact kakuzu died, fact hearts didnt!

Yet he was alive 3 seconds after.

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The masks are tied to him. As long as there are still hearts up he is not dead.

 

[Bogard]

First off, do not compare rasengans of Naruto Km/sage mode to minatos! He is wayyyyy out of minatos leaague when it comes to that jutsu!

He just have more variants. In terms of basics(normal rasengan), Minato's has shown to be greater and more powerful. Even KCM Naruto's rasengan barely phased Tobi when it hit him:

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When he lost more than just an arm to Minato's rasengan:

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Compare their size as well. Look how big Minato's normal rasengan is:

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Look how small KCM Naruto's rasengan is in comparison:

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On the above pic look also at the difference in damage it put on the ground, compared to this that leveled up the entire battlefield:

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Second; Do not compare any level of rasengan to a TBB! That is a fail!

I'm not comparing both, i'm comparing their caracteristics, something showed and said by the manga itself

Then you out right ignore the fact that obito jump and recovered asap from the attack! -_____-

I ignore nothing. I know he did that, like i know he also was so damaged(with a missin-arm) that he decided to flee away a second after. What happened later like you said we don't know, but if he fled, there was a reason behind it

Minato has no counter for hydra mode nor true form, Oru wins every single time! Oru knows minato and his secrets while Minato barely has anything on oru and even underestimates his talents. Oru is smarter no disputing, and has more outs then minato. And if the only argument any of you have is decap (when i proved with life and manga facts it will not work).

Oro has more knowledge, that's it. Minato is the smarter one(in battle). Oro's hydra technique is as featless as Prime Hiruzen, so we don't really know its great power or weakness. In appearance it has shown nothing that other summons couldn't do/doesn't have besides it's size

Obito never showed he healed from minato rasengan the moment he was hit, that is fanfiction with 0 manga proof. And Oru has take way worse things then a rasengan and has survived! Rasengan isnt killing him, and isnt killing allot of ninjas shown btw. Show basic rasengan feats not anything from naruto sm/km/bm using rasengan.

He obviously healed from it, otherwise he would have stayed with a missin-arm at the very least. He fled and there was a reason behind it. Not even mentioning the fact that judging by his size during that night, he may have been protected by Spiral Zetsu as well, unfortunately Kishi never really expanded on it

 

[Touken]

Again with the Kakuzu scans?

I already proved that Kakuzu getting heart stabbed had nothing to do with the masks. The masks are controlled by his brain/chakra, not his heart.

As for Sasori, he was a puppet.

Orochimaru is neither a puppet nor immortal.

Thissss.

10charr