Minato vs Obito and Kakashi

[Bogard]

Team Minato is in action. Minato fight his grown students

Location: Current battlefield
Restrictions: Summoning jutsu
Condition: This is alive Minato against MS Obito and Kakashi
Mindset: in-character
Knowledge: Full

Who wins?

 

[Prince Charles]

Is obito still pre marked with ftg?

 

[Bogard]

Is obito still pre marked with ftg?

Obviously not :|

 

[Prince Charles]

Obviously not :|

No need to be a sour clown(im not trying to get banned again so I wont put you in your place this time Bolame U_U.

OT: Im guessing your arguments utilizes Sage mode and Ma & Pa doesn't it? Of course it does. Too much factors to take into considering here but Ma and Pa along with frog genjutsu give Minato a lead here.

EDIT - also adding the fact that Ma and Pa have counters to kakashi's kamui in regards to stopping kakashi from using it via dust cloud from Ma

 

[Bogard]

No need to be a Jack ass U_U.

OT: Im guessing your arguments utilizes Sage mode and Ma & Pa doesn't it? Of course it does. Too much factors to take into considering here but Ma and Pa along with frog genjutsu give Minato a lead here.

Tbh i totally forgot about them. It wasn't my arguments at all. I will restrict them in OP

 

[Prince Charles]

Tbh i totally forgot about them. It wasn't my arguments at all. I will restrict them in OP

Alright then no ma and pa, Minato can still sense the chakra build up I presume in kakashi's Eye for kamui and also the fact that sm gives him more enhanced perception making him quicker to react to kamui and escape it with ftg, also the problem with clones and etc and the fact that this clones can ftg the real one as well.

I can see Minato giving a good fight.

 

[VongolaX]

Inyouton...GG

 

[Bogard]

Alright then no ma and pa, Minato can still sense the chakra build up I presume in kakashi's Eye for kamui and also the fact that sm gives him more enhanced perception making him quicker to react to kamui and escape it with ftg, also the problem with clones and etc and the fact that this clones can ftg the real one as well.

I can see Minato giving a good fight.

Exactly, but i'll also add the fact in latest chapter he has shown to react far quicker than the Kamui release

He was where Sakura was(middle panel) where you can see some floating sand [

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Yet on the picture above notice that Kakashi started the kamui activation first, but Minato was capable to

1- Rapidely throw a kunai under Madara from that distance

2- Enter sage mode(Senjutsu)

3- Teleport with a rasengan already activated all that before Kakashi's kamui actually started warping Obito

And he almost hit Jubidara. So he has shown to be quicker than Kakashi's kamui jutsu(faster than Obito's). He was roughly 30meters away and he did just that in an instant. With this combo, it will be harder for his opponents to react in time especially in sage mode that upgrades his sensing, speed, strength and perceptibility

 

[Prince Charles]

Exactly, but i'll also add the fact in latest chapter he has shown to react far quicker than the Kamui release

He was where Sakura was(middle panel) where you can see some floating sand [

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Spoiler

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Yet on the picture above notice that Kakashi started the kamui activation first, but Minato was capable to

1- Rapidely throw a kunai under Madara from that distance

2- Enter sage mode(Senjutsu)

3- Teleport with a rasengan already activated all that before Kakashi's kamui actually started warping Obito

And he almost hit Jubidara. So he has shown to be quicker than Kakashi's kamui jutsu(faster than Obito's). He was roughly 30meters away and he did just that in an instant. With this combo, it will be harder for his opponents to react in time especially in sage mode that upgrades his sensing, speed, strength and perceptibility

Yeah I agree, the combos with ftg is limitless and hax but I can see the fight going to team 2 as well, Minato still needs time to enter sage mode and the same goes for his clones I presume and he also has a time limit? which we don't have knowledge on the time limit of it... But as I said he would probably start off with throwing kunai's everywhere, knowing he'd probably send out raiton clones or something along those lines. Also the fact that Minato would need to knead his chakra in the middle of battle to stay in his sensor mode right?

Team 2 has their chances due to the time gaps it takes minato to do certain things such as entering sm and also kneading his chakra right?

 

[Bogard]

Yeah I agree, the combos with ftg is limitless and hax but I can see the fight going to team 2 as well, Minato still needs time to enter sage mode and the same goes for his clones I presume and he also has a time limit? which we don't have knowledge on the time limit of it... But as I said he would probably start off with throwing kunai's everywhere, knowing he'd probably send out raiton clones or something along those lines. Also the fact that Minato would need to knead his chakra in the middle of battle to stay in his sensor mode right?

Team 2 has their chances due to the time gaps it takes minato to do certain things such as entering sm and also kneading his chakra right?

It's true as well. Reason why i made the match up because i thought it could be balanced especially with full knowledge. Someone as smart as Kakashi would be prepared, but you're wrong on one thing. He can enter SM almost instantly. To enter sage mode, you need to be immobile some second to gather natural energy, but Minato throwed a kunai before entering Sage mode, which means he gather the natural energy at the same moment he threwed the kunai. Talk about fast

 

[Prince Charles]

It's true as well. Reason why i made the match up because i thought it could be balanced especially with full knowledge. Someone as smart as Kakashi would be prepared, but you're wrong on one thing. He can enter SM almost instantly. To enter sage mode, you need to be immobile some second to gather natural energy, but Minato throwed a kunai before entering Sage mode, which means he gather the natural energy at the same moment he threwed the kunai. Talk about fast

I don't entirely agree with what your saying, It could had been that most of minato's gathering of natural energy was off panel due to madara's speech to obito. Minato had the time and means to enter sm when madara was talking but it was off panel but I won't deny you may be correct as well but a perfect sage needing more time to enter sm than minato doesnt make much sense.

 

[Bogard]

I don't entirely agree with what your saying, It could had been that most of minato's gathering of natural energy was off panel due to madara's speech to obito. Minato had the time and means to enter sm when madara was talking but it was off panel but I won't deny you may be correct as well but a perfect sage needing more time to enter sm than minato doesnt make much sense.

Maybe but we've seen Minato was listening to the story as well. We see him here:

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So it seems he didn't gather it off-panel like you say

 

[WolfHaley]

Kakashi is clearly exhausted and that is why his Kamui wasn't as quick as it was shown. By that logic Gaara's speed is on par with a Jinchuriki.

 

[Bogard]

Kakashi is clearly exhausted and that is why his Kamui wasn't as quick as it was shown. By that logic Gaara's speed is on par with a Jinchuriki.

Maybe but Gaara started accumulating the sand first though

 

[Prince Charles]

Maybe but we've seen Minato was listening to the story as well. We see him here:

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So it seems he didn't gather it off-panel like you say

You have a point.

 

[WolfHaley]

Maybe but Gaara started accumulating the sand first though

If anything that just shows you that you can't accurately gauge the time progression slide-by-slide in this manga. We saw that Kakashi's Kamui began to gather around Obito before the wall was even up, this is clearly much slower than he's demonstrated before.

 

[Avinash012]

Obito is the main problem for Minato in this case,IMO it could go either way Iam leaning more towords Minato here.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Obito alone is enough. He wont fall for kunai + FTG combo again

Genjutsu that controlled perfect jin

Massive katon, unless minato FTGs back home it covers all battlefield and all kunais.

Izanagi.

Bigger stamina.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Obito alone is enough. He wont fall for kunai + FTG combo again

Genjutsu that controlled perfect jin

Massive katon, unless minato FTGs back home it covers all battlefield and all kunais.

Izanagi.

Bigger stamina.

He could just angle it towards the sky upon reentry.

 

[Zavage10]

Izanagi ends its.