Minato vs Muu

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minato easy diff. i dont want to go through details coz its so obvious.

this is kishimotos manga and minato is one of the most important character in this manga.

i cant see kishimoto favoring muu when he let us see them toe to toe.
 

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So Kakashi is able to fight an invisible man when he only has 13years old, but Minato can't? Then i really wonder why the village of rocks feared him that much that they even ordered to all ninjas in a war to flee away when they see someone even looking at him a little bit, lol. If an invisible man is all what is needed to beat Minato, they could have send this man to kill him.

KAKASHI
HAD
SHARINGAN
WHICH
CAN
SEE
CHAKRA

MUU
MAKES CHAKRA DISAPPEAR
SO THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE
EVEN WITH SHARINGAN
MINATO DOES NOT EVEN HAVE IT
EVEN IF HE FOCKING HAD
MUU>BASE SHARINGAN

:sy:

muu gets invisible, flies up and jintons the blond hair out of minato
 

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Honestly if Jiraiya has a barrier that detects things like that than I highly doubt Minato, who was more a sealing formula master than Jiraiya way, would not be able to. Especially considering that Jiraiya was Minato's teacher and all...
Minato still has a sensing ability in which the fundamentals of are not known, but I'll rule that out since Muu has hype for his invisibility. However Minato is extremely intelligence - if he sees that Muu can turn invisible he'll quickly think of ways to counter it. For example, Minato could throw an FTG at Muu while he prepares his Jinton. From there, Muu wouldn't expect Minato to suddenly teleport to the kunai and hit him. If Minato's hit misses him somehow due to sensing, he's just as likely to tag him and keep Muu guessing.

Minato might has Barrier tech as you said. Because he was an expert in Sealing techs due to he learned from Uzumaki Clan. But im doubting about he can not find Muu either because Muu's invisibility is not ordinary thing like chameleon's. He can able to Hide his Chakra form so become non-exist. I'll go with Muu, he is a genius too he created Jinton, with combination of 3 element and for me? It's a big deal better than Rasengan or anything else. U_U

Minato is a high sensory shinobi, he detect any presence just by putting his hands on the floor. Muu can be invisible physically, but his presence will not.
And I think even on air and invisible, once he starts with his jinton, for sure Minato can sense the building of chakra and intantly spot his location.

Just my opinion though...

Yes it is just your opinion. Not Fact.
 
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KAKASHI
HAD
SHARINGAN
WHICH
CAN
SEE
CHAKRA

MUU
MAKES CHAKRA DISAPPEAR
SO THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE
EVEN WITH SHARINGAN
MINATO DOES NOT EVEN HAVE IT
EVEN IF HE FOCKING HAD
MUU>BASE SHARINGAN

:sy:

muu gets invisible, flies up and jintons the blond hair out of minato

Are you a child?

Anyway, at the bolded part, since when is jinton that fast? as far as I know it's a slow move, even Tobi teleported Sasuke away from it when he was already in the cube, and Minato is the fastest character with his high reflexes and FTG.

Minato detected the presence of Tobi when he was behind him, and you say he would be attacked by such a slow move?:sy:

By your logic Muu can defeat anyone, LOL.
 

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Are you a child?

Anyway, at the bolded part, since when is jinton that fast? as far as I know it's a slow move, even Tobi teleported Sasuke away from it when he was already in the cube, and Minato is the fastest character with his high reflexes and FTG.

Minato detected the presence of Tobi when he was behind him, and you say he would be attacked by such a slow move?:sy:

By your logic Muu can defeat anyone, LOL.

are u sane?
jinton has several types
jinton cube is one thing
jinton laser beam in another
lawl.

tobi has chakra
muu has chakra disappeared
can u C the dif?

not anyone, but minato - yeah
 

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Could go both ways, but since muu have to show himself to use jinton and its a pretty slow i would go for minato high dif'
 

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are u sane?
jinton has several types
jinton cube is one thing
jinton laser beam in another

lawl.

tobi has chakra
muu has chakra disappeared
can u C the dif?

not anyone, but minato - yeah

Still a slow attack, and Muu never showed us the beam jinton as far as I know, that was developed by Onoki.

And I know that Muu can cloak his chakra, thanks for stating the obvious, mister.

Too bad he can't attack while his chakra is cloaked, so it will be an easy task for Minato to teleport away from the technique once he detects his presence.

And why not anyone but Minato? you sound like a hater, LOL.
 

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And why not anyone but Minato? you sound like a hater, LOL.

haha actually u are sounding like fanboy

and i do not have any problems with a manga character lawl.

muu>minato is IMO

i did not say u have to believe it
 

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haha actually u are sounding like fanboy

and i do not have any problems with a manga character lawl.

muu>minato is IMO

i did not say u have to believe it

No actually you're a hater, don't deny it, what you said was:
muu gets invisible, flies up and jintons the blond hair out of minato

Doesn't that sound like a hater? :rolleyes:
You made it seem like Minato is some genin who don't konw his left from his right, bravo!:sy:

Then you said what?
not anyone, but minato - yeah
???

It would be worse if you don't notice that you're a hater. :noc:
Anyway, if it's your opinion then fine, but try to make it sound like an opinion next time.
Even though it's........:sy:
 

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No actually you're a hater, don't deny it, what you said was:


Doesn't that sound like a hater? :rolleyes:
You made it seem like Minato is some genin who don't konw his left from his right, bravo!:sy:

Then you said what?

???

It would be worse if you don't notice that you're a hater. :noc:
Anyway, if it's your opinion then fine, but try to make it sound like an opinion next time.
Even though it's........:sy:



fanboy much?

for me it is a pretty nice opinion
and i dont give a damn about what some mina-fboys will think ;)
 

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KAKASHI
HAD
SHARINGAN
WHICH
CAN
SEE
CHAKRA

MUU
MAKES CHAKRA DISAPPEAR
SO THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE
EVEN WITH SHARINGAN
MINATO DOES NOT EVEN HAVE IT
EVEN IF HE FOCKING HAD
MUU>BASE SHARINGAN

:sy:

muu gets invisible, flies up and jintons the blond hair out of minato
WTF are you talking about? Kakashi didn't had sharingan at that moment. When he fought that invisible man, Obito was still alive. He had sharingan after that. Remember.
 

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WTF are you talking about? Kakashi didn't had sharingan at that moment. When he fought that invisible man, Obito was still alive. He had sharingan after that. Remember.

u said kakashi was 13
i thought he had sharingan at that time

no :confused:
 

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u said kakashi was 13
i thought he had sharingan at that time

no :confused:
No, i'm talking about this guy:
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And he didn't had sharingan at that moment but he could still sense his presence.
 

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fanboy much?

for me it is a pretty nice opinion
and i dont give a damn about what some mina-fboys will think ;)

By that logic I understand that anyone who proves you wrong is a fanboy. (?)
Dear, what a f***ed up logic.
i dont give a damn about what some mina-fboys will think ;)

That proves my point.
 

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This is a pretty good match-up (better than Oonoki vs. Minato lol). Alright, here's my two cents on this. Now Minato clearly has the advantage in movement speed. However, Muu has shown that he is not only a highly proficient sensor ninja, but has fantastic reflexes (being that he easily dodged Naruto he tried to sneak up on him from behind).

As I have said many, many times there are different types of "speed". Minato's reflexes and movement speed are probably beyond Muu's (especially movement speed). However, merely because one's movement speed is superior than another's, this does not mean the ninja with the slower movement speed will necessarily be blitzed. We plainly see a clear example of this, with Sasuke reacting to everything that A was doing, even with his V2 Shroud. Sasuke dodged A's Elbow head-on, he activated Susanoo to shield himself from A's Raiger Bomb, shrouded his Susanoo with Amaterasu to counter A's Raigyaku Shuhei (after he just dodged Amaterasu), he activated Enton: Kagutsuchi to counter A's Guillotine Drop. Believe it or not, Sasuke was able to effectivelyreact to everything A did, even though A is vastly superior in movement speed.

With that said, I believe that Muu should atleast be able to react to Minato's basic Shunshin no Jutsu.

As far as sensing Muu goes, this all depends on whether or not Muu is on the ground or flying when the battle first begins. If he's on the ground, Minato's finger trick will certainly locate him. But if he's flying,Minato hasno means of locating Muu. Despite this, even if Muu is flying through the air while invisible, Minato will still be able to see Muu's actual technique both during it's charging stage and it's firing stage. Muu is invisible, but I don't think his Jinton is though. Although Minato is not the type to immediately blitz people off the bat, if Minato is fully aware of Muu's abilities, then I can see Minato trying to blitz Muu immediately just to "mark" him. If he's marked, then Minato should be able to now counter his invisibility, by simply using Hiraishin to teleport to his location.

Space-Time Barrier Jutsu should be more than enough to counter any Jinton technique. If they are able to easily consume Full Power Kyuubi's TailedBeast Bomb, then I can't see Muu producing a large or strong enough attack that Minato wouldn't be able to stop or redirect.

The problem for Minato, is that once Muu decides to start flying, Minato will have a problem getting to him.If he doesn't manage to mark Muu before he takes flight, the only way Minato would be able to potentially reach him, is if he has Gamabunta or one of his Giant Toads jump around after him. But even then, that's going to be very difficult. Especially since Muu will be constantly be attacking with Jinton, and Minato will have to constantly protect himself and his Toads with his S/T Barriers.

Minato can't seal Muu. Atleast not without using Shiki Fujin, which would kill himself aswell. I wouldn't be surprised if Minato does have sealing jutsu that can bind an Edo Tensei (since he is skillful in sealing, and Kushina is master in the art and taught him such jutsu). However, because we haven't seen any such Fuinjutsu from Minato, it's not fair to simply assume that he can. The only thing I can see Minato doing, is weakening Muu with a well placed Rasengan (his normal Rasengan are at least as strong as Naruto's Oodama Rasengan) then having Gamabunta sit on Muu or something, which would effectively pin him down lol.

I can see Minato winning high difficulty tho.
 

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No, i'm talking about this guy:
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And he didn't had sharingan at that moment but he could still sense his presence.

at first he saw his head
then he said he was gonna track him with air currents and stuff

yup kakashi was cool

but still

muu>minato

IMO

U_U
 

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By that logic I understand that anyone who proves you wrong is a fanboy. (?)
Dear, what a f***ed up logic.


That proves my point.

dude, y so serious?

be a fboy i dont care
but dont mess into my opinions plz

and if u think your "logic" is better than mine, i have no problem with that
think whatever u want

i think mu>minato
period
 

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Muu turns visible to attack, Minato sees him and teleports away or ST barrier's the attack away, preferably to a kunai thrown near Muu his jutsu can kill him
 
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