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Lol, no, its not. Don't know who told you that nonsense but its false. Hiraishin involves no movement at all. Minato only teleports near his opponent. Striking them is up to his own striking speed, which is nothing fancy or notable, so Madara has no issue activating Susanoo before he hits him. I suggest you properly learn how to point out contradictions.
Okay. I see I have to break this down step by step for you because you just contradicted yourself yet again.
Definition of TELEPORTATION
1:the act or process of moving an object or person by psychokinesis
2:to transport (a body) by telekinesis.
Definition of MOVING
1:changing place or position
2: capable of or having movement: a moving object
Definition of TRANSPORT
1:to carry, move, or convey from one place to another.
2: to carry (someone or something) from one place to another
Do you see how you contradicted yourself now? You said FTG involves no movement at all, but that its just teleporting Minato near his opponent. Teleporting is a movement! Minato is too fast for Madara too react to. Do I need to link the scan where Lee explained that even if a sharingan sees something move, if their body cannot react to the speed at which the target is moving then its useless?
Perfect example is Obito and Minato. Obito clearly saw Minato jump point blank range right before his eyes but his body could not react fast enough to dodge Minatos attack. In that split second he thought to himself how Minato must have jumped to the Kunai he threw earlier, yet he could not think in time to tell his brain to move his body so it could react to dodge or to even to activate Kamui so the attack would phase through him.
I'm not putting Obito on Madaras level so don't get the wrong idea. I'm using him as an example of what will occur with Minato and Madara especially since Madara acknowledged Tobirama was faster than him and Minats FTG is superior to Tobiramas. How is his striking speed nothing fancy? Fancy enough that he could strike Ay while he was still moving in his Lightning Straight behind his back? That is fast striking speed.
Whats this about Madara activating Susanoo before he hits him!?
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Okay. Let me break it down for you again, step by step.
-Mei shoots Lava style.
-Madara jumped off the root to dodge the attack, at that second he was blitzed by Ay.
-Notice hes has vision of Ay in his peripheral vision yet he was still unable to react fast enough to dodge the attack or activate Susanoo.
-While falling to the ground from Ay's punch, he was thinking to himself how fast Ay is. He activated Susanoo so Meis lava from earlier could not touch him on the way down.
-Madara is now attempting to get back up, but blitzed yet again by Ay, this time Susanoo already active.
Madara caught Ay with his vision attacking him, yet he was unable to react fast enough to dodge the attack nor use Susnaoo. After Madara fell to the ground, Ay attacked yet again, he still could not react fast enough to get up quickly and dodge. Now you might say that was because he knew he had Susanoo active but the fact is that looking at his pose, he was getting back up, but couldn't do so in time before Ay hit him. Minato can blitz Madara, the same way but instead just throwing a kunai at him. Remember Madara has no intel on him so when Minato throws his kunai, Madara will either dodge it or deflect with his own kunai. If he dodges Minato just jumps right when it gets behind him to land a rasengan+FTG mark on him. If he deflects it, is even better for Minato because Minato will jump to it when its in his face and the same thing will happen. FTG is faster than Ay moves and since Madara could not react to Ay's attacks he wont be able to react to Minatos. Its quite simple.
See the bold? His clan had never seen a chakra so great and as powerful in their clan. Does that mean his chakra reserves are massive? No. This by his own clan standards. If they had seen Hashiramas chakra then his would have been the greatest and most powerful they had ever seen. Shikamaru can say he was born with the greatest and most powerful chakra the Nara clan has ever seen in their clan but does that mean his reserves are the strongest and largest they've ever seen in the shinobi world? I think you get my point."I was born with the greatest, and most powerful chakra they'd ever seen"
So no, you're wrong (Again) Large chakra reserves are an Uchiha trait.
Lol, we have zero proof from you that they fought for 24 hours with no breaks in between, especially when they have a Medical Unit on their side. On the other hand, I have 100% undeniable proof that Madara fought 24 hours straight, and Susanoo was used.
Link me a manga scan telling me large chakra reserves are an Uchiha trait. So far, all the scans I have looked up on tell me they are known for their eye jutsu and powerful chakra, not large and I already established how quality is not quantity.
You have zero proof Madara fought for a full 24 hours with no medical team and no breaks in between. It was a huge clan fight that happened off screen. You have 0% undeniable proof he went 24 hours straight no breaks and used Susanoo the entire time. Also whats this about EMS causing no strain on the user? Link me scans saying that is true too because as far as I know all it does is not make the user go blind.
Link me the scans saying the Uchiha has large chakra reserves. That trait was always attributed to the Senju clan. Orochimaru was using Hashiramas own power to bind them with the edo tensei as Tobirama noted so yes its very understandable you cant control him with his own power.........Irrelevant. None of this doesn't change the fact Uchiha have large chakra reserves, as stated by the manga. The Senju being blessed with more doesn't change that fact. Hashirama's chakra is also very potent as he was able to break Edo Tensei's binding and almost destroy the Naka Shrine just by spiking his chakra..You have no point here.
Okay now I know what you are talking about. Its hard to tell from looking at that image. All I see are the little gates that were there and two figures on the left and right sides. I cant even tell what is what.Lol, what? The little dots in the middle of the barrier are the gates I'm referring to. You are probably referring to the barrier.
1. The concept of perspective destroys this whole point of yours. Objects farther away seem smaller than they really are. If I used your logic then I would have to say thatYou must be registered for see links. Meaning what you see in that scan obviously isn't those Mountain's full height. Again, if I used your logic, then I'd be saying those trees would be at least as tall as the Mountain in the background.
2. I hope you don't think that trees are almost as tall as Mountains.
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Thats true. I never said the toads were larger than the mountains or PS I just said they can and will be able to avoid its attacks. Just because he split mountains does not mean they cant dodge the attacks. Hashirama dodged a massive whirling attack that split 5 mountains just by jumping on the Susanoo then escaped the debris just by jumping from rock to rock to evade it.
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go back a page and you will see the massive attack, and Hashirama jumped on the Susanoo. He is not on Kurama, Kurama is cloaked in the Susanoo and you can clearly see the horn on its nose where Hashirama is of that of the Susanoo. Going by that, its possible for Minato to stand on the PS itself just as Hashirama did. It is a physical manifestation of ones chakra, and since it is physical Minato can also mark with with his bare hand. With that he can jump close to Susanoo before each attack to just dodge it.Likewise. You cannot prove that he just never tried to learn sage mode, so by that logic you are speculating yourself. My assumption makes more since than yours though. All you said is he never tried to learn it and left it at that. I said he did not have the reserves/body and provided examples to back it up. You choose to ignore all of those facts and just came with databook/manga argument which is very weak concerning this specific issue. By your logic I can just say ''everyone can learn sage mode, and until you give me proof saying they tried and failed, then I am right and you are wrong.'' That makes absolutely no sense especially when Pa said you need enormous reserves to even draw in natural energy and turn it into senjutsu chakra. He is over 800 years old, I think the guy knows what hes talking about.@bold: The bold is not evidence for your claim. Evidence for your claim would come from the manga or Databook, or Kishi's interviews, and nowhere else. When you can prove that he tried and failed to learn Sage Mode, then you will have a point here, but until then, you are merely speculating.
Minato can win this with his speed and senjutsu. Its pretty clear I am not changing your mind and you are not changing but if you want to keep going, just let me know, if not then don't reply. I'll get the message.
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I am suer he was just a little supporter U_U unbelievably what for shit you are saying. On the image are even fooders , do you think they have now more Chakra than a SM USER ? Only cuz they are not dead U_U