Minato vs. DSM Kabuto

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Lol, Definitely not about to deal with your wank and fanfiction right now.



Attack Prevention Technique only lets him merge with the ground, meaning if the ground gets destroyed (Bijuu Dama, Rasengan) he still dies.

Hiding Like a Mole would work, but then again all Minato would need to do is teleport with Hiraishin and then attack Kabuto, or mark him directly by blitzing him with KCM Shunshin, either way Kabuto isn't reacting. Once marked Minato simply teleports attacks right onto Kabuto and he dies.

Body Flame Technique is still a viable option, I was actually picturing that one sorry. How would he get to Kabuto if hes not marked? What if Kabuto attacks him from behind?
 

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Minato's alive body cannot even move or even fight while Kurama's chakra in him stated by Minato himself. Kabuto stomps.
 

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Minato's alive body cannot even move or even fight while Kurama's chakra in him stated by Minato himself. Kabuto stomps.

Were you born underdeveloped?

Lol, Bijuu Dama's range encompasses Mountains, and Minato's are even larger than that. There is no teleporting away since his tags won't be that far away.

He has seals placed all over the shinobi world. Thats one of the perks that makes him so great.
 

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Body Flame Technique is still a viable option, I was actually picturing that one sorry. How would he get to Kabuto if hes not marked? What if Kabuto attacks him from behind?

That's a retreating technique. If he uses that he dies.

Um, he'd just use Shunshin, and if Kabuto attacks him from behind, he simply dodges it.
 

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That's a retreating technique. If he uses that he dies.

Um, he'd just use Shunshin, and if Kabuto attacks him from behind, he simply dodges it.

Oh well, the original point i was tryna prove was that he avoid TBB and rasengans
 

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i do believe a BM minato would take this, but I think some people are underestimating the effectiveness of simple jutsu that kabuto could use for defence...
 

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Cant tank: 1. Chakra Scapel (internal damage) 2. Ethereal Worms (intangible) 3. Webs (sticky) 4.Kisei Kikai no Jutsu (cellular) 5. Fuinjutsu (Orochimaru Prolong Seal) 6. Poison etc.
1. Chakra Scalpel is not penetrating the kurama avatar,,, he isnt landing a hit with it either
2,3,4,5,6 kabutos hope of landing these on minato are absolute zero,,, minato is faster and his kurama avatar durability prevents him from them completely
Since when did I allow Minato prep distance + Battlefield removal area? Because everything in his aresenals have good AOE
He doesnt need prep here seeing his BM foot speed would be fast enough to cover kilometres within seconds,,, and once TBB comes out the entire landscape is destroyed,,,,,
Assuming what I stated above: Because Minato has to mark the areas in the location given.

1.Mokuton stops him from charging a TBB
Kabuto has not shown any mokuton feats,,, not to mention they are no way near the level to immobilise a bijuu.,, furthermore with FTG,,minato can evade it rather easily
2. Kidomaru's webs, supported with SM, can help support and reflect the TBB before it explodes. By either propelling it to another direction or back at Minato
Kidomarus webs are non factoor,,, they are evaded with ease and are not even scratching his kurama avatar,,,
the TBB would turn the webs and Kabuto to paste,,, let alone propel it to another direction,,
Manda 1 hide was about to endure a devastating C0, which is much greater then a generic TBB. Manda 2 being toughing will take more then 1 TBB to take it down, so no he isn't a non factor at all.
Yes It is a terrible comparison seeing how you think C0 > TBB when TBB have vaporised mountains with ease,,,

Manda 1's durability is somewhat comparable to Gamabunta and boss toads,,,, seeing how these toads were one-shotted by one ST from Deva (not Nagato),,, and seeing that TBB have a higher DC than ST,,, yes Manda 1 would get annihilated by TBB,,,,

Do you know how easy is it for Minato in BM to fire a TBB,,, he can fire a barrage of TBB with ease,,, Manda 2 is not tanking more than 2,, and him as well as kabuto are nuked by them
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Yeah,,,, it is a terrible scaling,,,,
1.Lol no CQC is perfect with chakra scapel since that tech damages internally then as focusing external damage, Minato will end with internal bleeding or arteries cut off that supports the heart.
Kabuto is much slower than Minato,, and if he engages minato in CQC,, he is simply getting marked,,,
he is not landing a hit on Minato,,, ,, and would get overwhelmed by his attacks
2. + Five Elements Seal
He is not landing this
3. Poison stun
Is not breaching his kurama avatar
4. Oral Rebirth for new body after done and deal
He cant spam it,,,, and its useless if his entire body is disintegrated
Kabuto would be aware about his FTG tech, which is why he would most likely Muki Tensei the ground, to move all the tags to his hitbox range
The range of Muki tensei is tiny,,, the attack is not doing anything to minato at all,, furthermore with Minatos speed in BM alongside his durability,,,, he doesnt need to completely rely on FTG unlike his Base form,,,,
the entire landscape and kabuto are getting vaporised by TBB
 
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Yondaime Stomps..!!! Thats all i have to say Low mid diff....
But if minato doesn't have BM or KCM then its a hard one ... i guess Minato will lose!
 

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1. Chakra Scalpel is not penetrating the kurama avatar,,,

Aware of that. I was speaking in overall Minato. Since I dont take characters to their strongest point from the start of that match. I take, Base, KCM, and BM. So yes Chakra Scalpel can't be tanked unless he is covering himself with Kurama Avatar.

he isnt landing a hit with it either
2,3,4,5,6 kabutos hope of landing these on minato are absolute zero,,, minato is faster and his kurama avatar durability prevents him from them completely

The same case here, you made a vague statement, and I had to correct you when you stated he can tank every attack Kabuto has. Now as for these jutsu (excluding 3 since I was being a smart mouth here, since you can't tank something that was meant to stick on you) he isnt going to recklessly attempt to fire these attacks like it was meant to land. He knows he can warp, so he will use them strategically.



He doesnt need prep here seeing his BM foot speed would be fast enough to cover kilometres within seconds,,, and once TBB comes out the entire landscape is destroyed,,,,,

The landscape is not being destroyed, your exaggerating. Minato couldn't even put much work against God Tree, no way will he clean the landscape of Shin: Jukai Kōtan and Kabuto defensive strategy.

Kabuto has not shown any mokuton feats,,, not to mention they are no way near the level to immobilise a bijuu.,, furthermore with FTG,,minato can evade it rather easily

You are right about that, but read the conditions of OP:
Condition:Zetsu spores/cells inside Kabuto are pre tinker with.

Meaning the same boost he use to revive Sasuke and gave Madara[ ] the ability to perfectly completed the cells of Hashirama in him, can be applied to himself, by manifesting Hashirama, like he did with the Sound 5 DNA/Chakra and Orochimaru.

Although Kabuto has no idea of Hashirama's prime[ ], nor chakra capacity of Hashirama himself. But Kabuto chakra reserves+Senjutsu, should reasonably be able to perform Base Hashirama jutsu. And as for his knowledge on what Mokuton he can use, is two jutsu he has witness through his Edo Madara: [ ] and [ ].

With that said he can use FTW to cover tag range with pollen, so if he wants to wrap around range to face Kabuto, he will need to deal with that.

Kidomarus webs are non factoor,,, they are evaded with ease and are not even scratching his kurama avatar,,,

I was being smart mouth about tanking, as this tech was not meant to damage but to stick.

the TBB would turn the webs and Kabuto to paste,,, let alone propel it to another direction,,

Without SM, this jutsu was stated to carry more then a ton[ ]. With just a smaller webs, has feats to knock a human being with distances, tying him to his destination[ ]. Its ability should be able to propel the Tail Ball before it explode (just like every single counter that was shown to beat TBB) And I doubt you would claim TBB has the same priorities as Enton

Yes It is a terrible comparison seeing how you think C0 > TBB when TBB have vaporised mountains with ease,,,

Lol what C0 eats more then mountain range:

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I drew red arrows for you in the spoiler.

Manda 1's durability is somewhat comparable to Gamabunta and boss toads,,,,

No he isn't, what proof?

seeing how these toads were one-shotted by one ST from Deva (not Nagato),,, and seeing that TBB have a higher DC than ST,,, yes Manda 1 would get annihilated by TBB,,,,

ST=/=Explosion damage. Just like you wouldn't compare Raiton damage to ST or Explosion. Not even a good point to begin with

Do you know how easy is it for Minato in BM to fire a TBB,,, he can fire a barrage of TBB with ease,,,

Ratio is important for TBB so even if he were to fire with ease, doesn't mean it will have the same quality as a more charge TBB.

Manda 2 is not tanking more than 2,, and him as well as kabuto are nuked by them

Unless they are charaged with good quality, sure. Not like Manda is going to stand there, when it has common speed a agility like all snakes in Naruto series, + keeping close in range, hiding mold tech, etc. If he wants to fire he will have to hit himself in range.

Yeah,,,, it is a terrible scaling,,,,

Not in Naruto manga

Kabuto is much slower than Minato,, and if he engages minato in CQC,, he is simply getting marked,,,

Who said he will reckless engage him? There are many ways to pressure Minato or have Minato engage himself to exchange blows.

he is not landing a hit on Minato,,, ,, and would get overwhelmed by his attacks

Only attacking factoring is TBB, nothing here is being overwhelmed.

He is not landing this

With White Rage, Doton Mole, Snake summon (confusing by distinguish chakra identity sense) combo sure.

Is not breaching his kurama avatar

Except for when he breaths.

He cant spam it,,,,


No, He has nature as external source, that he can constantly gather while moving. And by that:

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He has nigh unlimited chakra


and its useless if his entire body is disintegrated

Thats goes for everybody whos body is disintegrated....

The range of Muki tensei is tiny,,,

Lol no. We know that the cave is pretty long, since the farther you go, by looking at the scan 3D. He continues while getting darker and darker (You can see it better when Sasuke had to see color chakra to x ray, which further proves needing to view more then usual. Black Arrows show it, but lacking 3D view):

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And once you notice the "shadow figure areas", Kabuto's jutsu extended to that area, as you can see loops/lumps being molded into his liking:

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the attack is not doing anything to minato at all,, furthermore with Minatos speed in BM alongside his durability,,,,

it wasn't meant for offensives

he doesnt need to completely rely on FTG unlike his Base form,,,,
the entire landscape and kabuto are getting vaporised by TBB


No, as I mention way above.
 
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Kabuto would be aware about his FTG tech, which is why he would most likely Muki Tensei the ground, to move all the tags to his hitbox range

not happening bro, because the range is out of kabuto's capablities

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or he could simply throw a new kunai out of his pocket

minato summoned the scroll toad and sealed the kyuubi while having a hole in his chest, acting in extreme pain is not impossible for him

True. Or he can add a second one, by creating a second him via Sōma no Kō. But its best that this twin does Muki Tensei

while the white rage is active he has to liquefy his insides, otherwise he himself will suffer
he cant use other techs

Right, it will have to explode first, before then Kabuto can easily change it trajectory with Mokuton[ ], or repel it back by launching a Web Net on it (will explain how if needed)

err no, any moukton gets destroyed by the momentum [ ]

Hashirama was relying on teh alliance's doton walls to slow down the juubi damas

Rasengan isnt happening when Mokuton us suppressing him.

It is nigh instant, it gets charged up before mokuton reaches him

and as i said in the unlikely event any mokuton does come in contact with his chakra avatar it cant be sent away [ ]

If aimed toward the ground, Rasengan would work, so would Bijuu Dama, but that would require that Minato blows himself up, which isn't a smart idea. So no, Bijuu Dama isn't a good option against Hiding Like a Mole.

dont see the problem with it as six tails naruto tanked its own bijuu dama at point blank range [ ]
 
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not happening bro, because the range is out of kabuto's capablities

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Didnt he created those spacing off screen? Off screen gives him plenty of time and space to throw in good amount of distance. On screen shows him starting them at his battlefield location, via against Raikage flashback.

or he could simply throw a new kunai out of his pocket

This would have to be in the battle starter location then.

minato summoned the scroll toad and sealed the kyuubi while having a hole in his chest, acting in extreme pain is not impossible for him

Thats true, but it has nothing to do with the technique that functions by paralysis then in pain. Plus its outside, so Im not debating it will paralyze him.


while the white rage is active he has to liquefy his insides, otherwise he himself will suffer

I'm aware of that..

he cant use other techs

Going liquid doesn't block his chakra..

err no, any moukton gets destroyed by the momentum [ ]

Good point, but Jukai Koutan, what I showed on Gyuki, goes spawning below him, would be the better case here then to what Hashirama attempt with Wood Dragon traveling towards him. It will spawn faster and successfully warp around him( for 1) and more then one branch can attach itself then one long stem, so one can hold its neck, one can hold down its limbs, etc.

Hashirama was relying on teh alliance's doton walls to slow down the juubi damas

Good point. Same above.

It is nigh instant, it gets charged up before mokuton reaches him

Maybe by a scenario. My scenario was speaking strictly if he attempts to charge TBB

and as i said in the unlikely event any mokuton does come in contact with his chakra avatar it cant be sent away [ ]

True, already agreed here.
 

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Minato wrecks... non jin minato can win.....
 

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Minato destroys since you gave him access to Kurama.

Base Minato gets stomped though.​
 

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Minato destroys since you gave him access to Kurama.

Base Minato gets stomped though.​

Why is it should a huge power gap jeez lol. He is still fighting Minato with just more destructive power, that can successfully and actually beat Kabuto.

Difficulty makes no sense and not even reasonable.
 

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Why is it should a huge power gap jeez lol. He is still fighting Minato with just more destructive power, that can successfully and actually beat Kabuto.

Difficulty makes no sense and not even reasonable.

Given the fact the Kyuubi upgrades Minato's Physical Strength, Durability, Speed(foot-speed) and gives him access to almost Infinite Chakra compare to the normal Minato....i think the huge gap between the two is very understandable​
 

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Why is it should a huge power gap jeez lol. He is still fighting Minato with just more destructive power, that can successfully and actually beat Kabuto.

Difficulty makes no sense and not even reasonable.

It is a stomp because Kabuto doesn't really have much of a defence for continuous tailed beast bombs. Even 1 could be the decider, not to mention that the Kurama avatar allows the user to make KCM clones. How is Kabuto gonna deal with BM minato and KCM Minato simultaneously?

Not sure why you can't see it, it's a completely one sided fight, even BM Killer would wreck the living crao out of him. Perfect Jins are too much.
 
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