[VS] Minato vs. Deidara

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Correction, he used that distraction as an advantage while also using his speed as an advantage at the time. Though the situation was dire, the perfect time to strike was when the enemy fodder was caught off guard thus tragically trashing them.

Lol, dafuq are you talking about?

Kakashi rushed in, and Minato was protecting him by using his tossed Kunai, but when Kakashi was about to get killed, Minato Shunshin'd in, grabbed Kakashi and marked the guy, and then he shunshin'd back, warped to the fodder, and killed him.

Minatos ability to gauge a enemies strength is determined on how they fight or strategize, this was shown in the one man ambush when Kakashi rushed in, he waited until it was absolutely paramount that he intervene and then jumped in to save Kakashi. In that space of time, Minato could easily gauge how strong he was and thus ended him with Shunshin. 1000 rock ninja is clearly a army full of fodder sent and nothing but numbers, Minato had knowledge of this

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. So looking on this fight, he will not assume that Deidara is fodder but he will first gain at least a rough idea of his power.

You are reaching so far that it isn't even funny right now. That whole scene consisted of Kakashi one shotting the clones with Raikiri, while Minato threw Kunai to stop Kakashi from getting tagged by the clones who were also throwing Kunai, and then ended when Kakashi was about to die to the original, who then got marked by Minato. You're telling me he gauged this guy's power by watching his clones get raped and seeing him toss Kunai?

He only saved Kakashi when it was necessary. Yes. Doesn't substantiate anything you just made up here.

Minato knowing that 1000 rock ninja aren't fodder=/=Minato not assuming that Deidara is a fodder.

Its not within character for him to ever fling a barrage of kunai though that's my point, and even if he did, a clay clone is used and by the time he reaches deidara, it explodes which gives enough time for deidara to take flight. He didn't toss a barrage of kunai at Obito in the hidden leaf because he wanted to see just how powerful he was first before revealing his trump card FTG. It would be idiotic of him to use his trump straight away.

No one ever said he'd fling a barrage of Kunai. Lol. You are grasping, again. Deidara has zero intel on Hiraishin. Tell me how it makes any sense for him to counter a Kunai w/ a clone? Tell me how this even matters when Minato will SEE the clone being created? Lol, come on now.

Please stop comparing this to Obito. He knew Obito was dangerous from their initial exchange, and that exchange taught him that doing so would be useless. I already gave you an example where he used Hiraishin to one shot a fodder.

Uh, no. Not when your "trump card" is your signature move. Just an opinionated statement that completely ignores the nature of Minato's battles.

Im not grasping at straws all im saying is that even if here WERE to sprea dhis kunai everywhere, its:

A. Spread on a vast field

B. on the ground

It will be of little use to him if Deidara isn't on the ground now isn't it? and once again, He knew who Ay was and who he was up against at the time plus had a terrain advantage. There was a forest there where as this fight takes place outside that forest. Im simply pointing out the differences that distinguish this fight... now knowing this, why would he recklessly blitz everywhere from the very start? even when he had little time to react to Ay's punch he still formed a quick plan with the knowledge he had. By using FTG distance is just a word, especially in a forest.

Except nobody said he'd toss a buttload of Kunai everywhere and just start teleporting randomly, so this reply has no meaning in this argument.

Fair point, but he wasn't 100% sure about what he done, he had a theory and tested it out (about the space time jutsu/kamui) so he still never had accurate intel so this is why he dashed in instead of FTG troll spam, so he could learn more about it.

No, he didn't dash in with Hiraishin cause he knew that it'd be useless based on the info he'd already gathered on Kamui when Obito engaged him on the Hokage mountain.

But your suggesting that Minatos FTG essentially gives him a pre-emperative strike by saying that.

No, I'm not. I'm suggesting that Hiraishin gives Minato the speed to strike Deidara down before he ever gets far. You are either misunderstanding, or twisting my argument around.

Deidara successfully made a clone without Sasuke realising it and he possesses the sight to actually tell if its a clone or not.

1. Deidara was in the air, while Sasuke was on the ground.

2. Sharingan can't tell clones apart, at least no one's but Madara's.

So once again, no point.

He also fooled Oonoki. We've never actually seen someone create a surprise clone even though its been down thousands of times in the manga. Deidara can clearly sub himself for the clone...

Gonna need a scan of him fooling Onoki. Every time someone has subbed out with a clone, they've had an opportunity to do so. That doesn't mean Deidara can sub out with a clone on a guy tiers above him in speed, who can close the distance in a few seconds, who will never have his eye off him.

If anything, Deidara stand a very strong chance

He stands no chance. You guys are overrating him to ridiculous levels.

 

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