[VS] Minato vs Ay ?

[Uchiha Belieber]

LMAO you have to be a huge fanboy to say minato wins this

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Of all the endless possibilities of names that exist in the world, you decided to call yourself Uchiha Vagina.

 

[Voidstep]

LMAO you have to be a huge fanboy to say minato wins this

Minato fanboy n1 = Kishi

 

[Touken]

I don't quite see the difference. Doesn't spiking his chakra to that level essentially mean he's using chakra at that level or did I miss something?

We've also never seen Ay hold up a V2 armor for more than like minute, probably because it's a chakra-taxing technique.

The spiking of the chakra levels was a by-product of using V2, considering the main purpose of V2 is to increase speed and reaction speed. How does it make sense if he's using an extremely chakra-taxing technique which therefore depletes chakra reserves, but yet the technique itself increases his reserves? It doesn't make much sense to me.

 

[Voidstep]

The spiking of the chakra levels was a by-product of using V2, considering the main purpose of V2 is to increase speed and reaction speed. How does it make sense if he's using an extremely chakra-taxing technique which therefore depletes chakra reserves, but yet the technique itself increases his reserves? It doesn't make much sense to me.

dat logic...
it's burning chakra (we don't know how taxing it is, but still)... he's not absorbing that chakra out of nowhere...

 

[Kagustuchi]

Minato takes this. Though I don't know why people are considering SM a factor.​

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[Touken]

dat logic...
it's burning chakra (we don't know how taxing it is, but still)... he's not absorbing that chakra out of nowhere...

Huh? He already had that kind of chakra to begin with.

Tobirama/Hashirama did the same thing in chapter 620 (can't provide scans because I'm on my phone).

 

[Katsumi Ren]

The spiking of the chakra levels was a by-product of using V2, considering the main purpose of V2 is to increase speed and reaction speed. How does it make sense if he's using an extremely chakra-taxing technique which therefore depletes chakra reserves, but yet the technique itself increases his reserves? It doesn't make much sense to me.

"Spiking chakra levels" is what happens when you start releasing chakra at a higher rate than normal.

 

[Touken]

"Spiking chakra levels" is what happens when you start releasing chakra at a higher rate than normal.

Care to provide examples?

 

[Voidstep]

Huh? He already had that kind of chakra to begin with.

Tobirama/Hashirama did the same thing in chapter 620 (can't provide scans because I'm on my phone).

you don't get it...

that chakra he's using, it's his chakra... he didn't suddenly gain more chakra just like that... he doesn't have a tailed beast inside him, and he's not using a tech like SM that absorbs nature energy.

his chakra spikes because that tech requires more chakra from him, when he activates V1 or V2 he's already burning his reserves.

even though this is not reality, thinking that he's not wasting any chakra/energy and instead is gaining more makes no sense at all. he's even using his element...

 

[Katsumi Ren]

Care to provide examples?

It's analogous to releasing heat in real life. If you were looking at something in infared, and then it started to suddenly glow much brighter all of a sudden you would say that the 'heat levels were spiking'.

Additionally, it makes no sense to view 'chakra levels' in Naruto as referring to a characters chakra capacity. You have your full capacity at the start of a fight, and then as you use techniques you spend chakra. Bigger, more powerful techniques generally cost more chakra than smaller and weaker techniques. So, unless you have an outside source of chakra (biju sealed inside, storiing chakra in yin seal, etc.) then you should only ever have less chakra over time in a fight. Thus, 'spiking chakra levels' makes no sense in the context of chakra capacity, since that would mean that you suddenly gain a large amount of chakra when using big techniques.

A different way to view 'chakra levels' that makes more sense is the idea that a person passively emits chakra unless they are actively suppressing it (which forms the basis for many sensory abilities that can like Karin's Minds Eye of the Kagura and Naruto's sage mode sensing) and that molding chakra for techniques makes you emit chakra at a far higher rate, since you're molding it to be used rather than keeping it as physical and spiritual energy. In this way, it makes sense that when someone uses up a large amount of chakra for a technique the 'chakra levels' would spike since they are emitting a large amount of chakra.

Therefor, when someone says "that technique spiked his chakra to bijuu levels' it means that 'that technique emitted so much chakra, only one with a chakra capacity the size of a bijuu could have that much stored inside them.'

This is the best explanation I can come up with for 'spiking chakra levels', the overall idea being that molding chakra increases you 'chakra levels' due to the conversion of physical and spiritual energy into chakra with bigger techniques using more chakra and therefor creating a larger 'spike'.

 

[Voidstep]

example
without lightning armor he would be able to run non stop for a week.
with lightning armor active he would only last 2 days running, even at same speed... because he'd be burning more energy with his jutsu active.

his reserves are the same, with or without lightning armor, he just burns more energy and faster with LA active... but gets faster, stronger, etc... so it's not wasting for nothing, it has a purpose.

this was just to give an example, I don't know exactly how long he'd last running lool

 

[eagle8]

so ? :hyper:

 

[Aikor]

Minato already defeated A.It has already happend lol.Plus even A said tht "Ur father is the strongest shinobi" to naruto
Plus minato can counter at his top speed even.But with the lightning armor idk..Sasukes chidori only touched him + a rasengan is not stronger than a chidori..so

 

[KidGamer65]

Ay already said Minato is better than him, there is no debate on that. Minato would beat Ay as well. Multiple Rasengan should defeat him considering Chidori pierced his chest, and Minato's Rasengan is above Sasuke's Chidori.

 

[Aikor]

So yea tht sums it up.Minato wins

 

[Gold Lightning]

Fourth Raikage durability > Third's. Fourth Raikage reserves > Third's. Minato can't harm Ay, he can't blitz him, he can't outlast him. He loses.

It's like you know nothing. Third Raikage is way more durable than his son.

 

[eagle8]

so yea Minato wins this

 

[eagle8]

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