[VS] Minato vs Ay ?

[Penguin]

I think Minato beats Ei or B, but together, there is no way Minato can win. TBB Barrage from B + Shunshin Blitz from Raikage would end it.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

lmao, he stalemated base Bee. BM Bee destroys the heck out of base Minato.

If Minato can get through Ay's durability then he wins, if not, Ay outlasts.

Wasn't Bee a kid as we'll back then? It's been over sixteen years since they fought.

I did not see Ay go Super Saiyan in that scan.

Yeah, now that I think about it, a piece of cloth can't contain a Super Saiyan's hair.

Also, didn't Minato mark Bee in that fight? Pretty much means that Minato was guaranteed to win every consecutive fight.

 

[Ababeel]

You mean when Kirabi and Minato stalemated?

No, I mean when they both battled him several times, and then A came to the conclusion that there is no man who can surpass him, and B was shown to be scared from Minato's name. It's really simply reading comprehension that require to recognise that Minato did not want to kill them, and that's why he stopped his attack. Lol

it's hard to believe that you still can't understand the meaning of that encounter after all those years. heck, Minato was not even going to fight him, because their mission ended. Lol

I think Minato beats Ei or B, but together, there is no way Minato can win. TBB Barrage from B + Shunshin Blitz from Raikage would end it.

and what are they going to do when those TBB Barrage get redirected at them? Lol

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Yeah, now that I think about it, a piece of cloth can't contain a Super Saiyan's hair.

And the only person able to defeat a Super Saiyan is Lord Frieza. Minato is one shot.

 

[Bogard]

I think Minato beats Ei or B, but together, there is no way Minato can win. TBB Barrage from B + Shunshin Blitz from Raikage would end it.

The TBB barrage can be redirected via barriers. He redirected Jubi's Bijudama which is multiple times bigger than Hachibi's. Using them would actually be a mistake. As for A's speed, it won't be an issue. He already showed to be capable to reacted to him even while turning his back.

In fact Minato is 3times more reactive than him. Beside, he can make clones and help himself with summoning jutsus.

A would have difficulties to handle just Gamabunta. Besides, he can summon Pa and Ma to have permanent Sage Mode increasing all his base stats. With their collaborative sennin attacks(whether in nin-tai-gen) along with clones and amplified senpou rasengan, i can see him winning

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

If Minato never concluded to call ma and Pa against Madara, an IC Minato would never call for help against Ay.

 

[Bogard]

If Minato never concluded to call am and Pa against Madara, an IC Minato would never call for help against Ay.

He can't without arms. Besides i'm not saying it's IC, but it's a move he can use if he thinks he has no other choice

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Didn't ay already admit inferiority to minato? Despite the many times they clashed?

Minato mid low diff.

 

[Penguin]

No, I mean when they both battled him several times, and then A came to the conclusion that there is no man who can surpass him, and B was shown to be scared from Minato's name. It's really simply reading comprehension that require to recognise that Minato did not want to kill them, and that's why he stopped his attack. Lol

it's hard to believe that you still can't understand the meaning of that encounter after all those years. heck, Minato was not even going to fight him, because their mission ended. Lol


and what are they going to do when those TBB Barrage get redirected at them? Lol

You don't understand. Minato has no way to defend if Ei shunshin's as Kirabi fires TBB. Minato either defends from Ei and they both get blown to shit, or Minato gets killed by Ei as Minato redirects the TBB.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

He can't without arms. Besides i'm not saying it's IC, but it's a move he can use if he thinks he has no other choice

I was referring to Tobi - who he thought was Madara. I don't know, it never occurred to him when the Kyuubi was wrecking the village, or when it was made blatantly obvious that Senjutsu was the way to defeat Obito. As far as I'm aware that implies he knew little about what they could do.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You don't understand. Minato has no way to defend if Ei shunshin's as Kirabi fires TBB. Minato either defends from Ei and they both get blown to shit, or Minato gets killed by Ei as Minato redirects the TBB.

Shadow clone?

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Shadow clone?

And Minato has the reserves to redirect a barrage of TBB at 50%?

 

[Bogard]

I was referring to Tobi - who he thought was Madara. I don't know, it never occurred to him when the Kyuubi was wrecking the village. As far as I'm aware that implies he knew little about what they could do.

It's the final step of the training. [

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] He obviously knows. Because he didn't use it before prove nothing considering Hashirama himself never used Sage Mode in his battles against Madara until he was actually pushed by the combo Madara+Kyubi at the VOTE

 

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How does Ay outlast Minato when V2 requires Bijuu level chakra? Unless his chakra reserves are larger than the Kyuubi, he isn't keeping it up for more than a minute. [

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[Penguin]

Shadow clone?

Minato doesn't have the time or reserves to make a Kage Bunshin -> Block Ei's strike without a Hiraishin Mark -> Teleport multiple Bijuudama.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

It's the final step of the training. [

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] He obviously knows. Because he didn't use it before prove nothing considering Hashirama himself never used Sage Mode in his battles against Madara until he was actually pushed by the combo Madara+Kyubi at the VOTE

I'm doubtful Minato ever completed the training, otherwise he'd've been able to maintain it longer than five seconds.

The difference is Hashirama was stronger than Madara as the god of shinobi, and for all we know Hashirama had only just learned Sage mode. Minato knew this man as Hashirama - the legend's equal, yet never even considered Ma and Pa as a viable option.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

And Minato has the reserves to redirect a barrage of TBB at 50%?

Shadow clone splits chakra not stamina.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Minato doesn't have the time or reserves to make a Kage Bunshin -> Block Ei's strike without a Hiraishin Mark -> Teleport multiple Bijuudama.

Shadow clone requires only 1 seal.

 

[Penguin]

Shadow clone requires only 1 seal.

Yes. Bijuudama move at a ridiculous pace, and so does Ei. Minato doesn't have time for Kage Bunshin with Ei on his ass.

 

[Bogard]

I'm doubtful Minato ever completed the training, otherwise he'd've been able to maintain it longer than five seconds.

The difference is Hashirama was stronger than Madara as the god of shinobi, and for all we know Hashirama had only just learned Sage mode. Minato knew this man as Hashirama - the legend's equal, yet never even considered Ma and Pa as a viable option.

The fact he can draw in and perfectly balance the natural energy prove he completed the training. The duration of the mode variies depending on the amount of natural energy you're capable to draw in your body. Naruto for example was capable to draw in more than even with the oil [

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Minato's Sage Mode not lasting that long simply means he doesn't manage to draw a lot of the natural energy inside the body(not as much as Naruto for example that's for sure), but it still prove he completed the training. Even Jiraya who couldn't enter sage mode himself did [

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Just like he never tried to use senpou rasengan despite having already marked Obito? Just like he didn't try to use clones? Just like he didn't use rasen senkou chourinbu kousanshiki despite saying in the war it's his marked jutsu? So once again, a character not using a move at one point doesn't prove he can't