Minato & Tobirama parallels and comparisons

[Vapid]

cool, Hashirama >>>> Kabuto. Wood clone GG

Tobirama >>>>> Kabuto. Stark Style: Stealin' yo' Girl no jutsu GG.

 

[Gold Lightning]

There aren't any practical feats of sealing master excluding Hiraishin besides sealing a Bijuu and killing himself; both of which are useless for battle. Senjutsu is impracticable for battle as he himself stated. His reflexes are not instantaneous. Lol Space time barrier uses Hiraishin which is excluded in this debate. @Bold Shisui. Lol I rest my case, the level of the rest of the Jounin.

4 trigrams/8 trigrams seal which seals things into objects or people. He knows plenty uzumaki seals, as stated in the manga. He cut through a swath of enemies in the blink of an eye, to do that you have to have incredibly fast striking speed and reflexes. If senjutsu is so impracticable, then how come jiraya managed to pull it off even while being chased by a regenerating dog and pain? His space time barrier is just another space time jutsu, its not ftg. If it was ftg then it would have been mentioned, or have the same name like ftg barrier.

I don't know why you even want to make this a vs thread, or why you're so hell bent to try to downgrade minato all the time. Removing a characters abilities because you don't like that charcter smh.

 

[Torche]

4 trigrams/8 trigrams seal which seals things into objects or people. He knows plenty uzumaki seals, as stated in the manga. He cut through a swath of enemies in the blink of an eye, to do that you have to have incredibly fast striking speed and reflexes. If senjutsu is so impracticable, then how come jiraya managed to pull it off even while being chased by a regenerating dog and pain? His space time barrier is just another space time jutsu, its not ftg. If it was ftg then it would have been mentioned, or have the same name like ftg barrier.

I don't know why you even want to make this a vs thread, or why you're so hell bent to try to downgrade minato all the time. Removing a characters abilities because you don't like that charcter smh.

The Eight Trigrams Sealing Style the user must use an alter that is set accordingly. Yeah that's brilliant for battle. Lol
The Four Symbols Seal is mainly used for "evil" spirits and large objects, I.E: Summons...
"Plenty", yet we have no clue on what they do. :|
Provide scans on where he "cut through a swath of enemy" without Hiraishin.
Senjutsu impracticable:

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Hiraishin is clearly behind the Space-Time Barrier:

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I am not making this a VS thread, I am merely stating that without Tobirama (thus the Hiraishin base that Minato improved upon) he would be Jounin. All of his feats are with Hiraishin for the most part. Stop being so salty that I'm not wanking your fave and am using facts as pointed out above to counter your arguments, and prove my points. I'm not "hell bent" on trying to downgrade Minato, I don't care for him at all and having what you would call a "debate". You know; we are on a forum where you should expect different opinions.

Good day.

 

[Gold Lightning]

The Eight Trigrams Sealing Style the user must use an alter that is set accordingly. Yeah that's brilliant for battle. Lol
The Four Symbols Seal is mainly used for "evil" spirits and large objects, I.E: Summons...
"Plenty", yet we have no clue on what they do. :|
Provide scans on where he "cut through a swath of enemy" without Hiraishin.
Senjutsu impracticable:

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Hiraishin is clearly behind the Space-Time Barrier:

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I am not making this a VS thread, I am merely stating that without Tobirama (thus the Hiraishin base that Minato improved upon) he would be Jounin. All of his feats are with Hiraishin for the most part. Stop being so salty that I'm not wanking your fave and am using facts as pointed out above to counter your arguments, and prove my points. I'm not "hell bent" on trying to downgrade Minato, I don't care for him at all and having what you would call a "debate". You know; we are on a forum where you should expect different opinions.

Good day.

And without the founder of ninshuu and ninjutsu, tobirama would be nothing. Without the toads jiraya would be nothing, without the freebie power ups, sasuke and naruto would be nothing, without the sharingan kakashi wouldve been nothing. I could go on forever, whats your freaking point? why are you taking away a characters ability, why does it matter where minato got his jutsu? I don't care about opinions such as yours where your only purpose is to demote a characters abilities based on where they learned it from.

You didn't answer my question about jiraya, how did he manage to use his imperfect sage mode in battle? If it is so impracticable then minato wouldve never pulled it off to begin with.

It's not about using ftg to cut through all the enemies, you can't do it that fast if you don't have the reflexes and striking speed to do so. If you give tenten ftg, she won't just magically be able to own 50 ninja.

And you obviosuly do care for minato, because I see you in minato threads all the time with only negative comments. Honestly, how does saying "Minato cant to xxx if not for xxxx". How does that contribute anything to the thread? It's only your own ego that you're trying to satisfy.

And where did you get your 8 trigrams info from? Narutopedia? Four trigrams isn't said to need an alter, as far as I know it seals any target into a human or object. Jiraya fights will toads 90% of the time, yet hes way beyond jonin, minato does almost all the same things he does, so I still fail to see how he's jonin level. He doesnt need ftg to beat the likes of Mei, tsunade, old hiruzen and they're kage.

 

[startup97]

Hiruzen solos both.

 

[Xlad]

Nice thread. Tobirama is the shit though.