Minato & Tobirama Comparison

[Touken]

Not fair to bring up Tobi not perfecting edo because he gave up on it and died in his youth. It's not like he couldn't. But not everyone has the infinite amount of time to waste like oro.

I don't think he ever intended on 'perfecting' it as, implying from Madara's and Tobirama's statement, he only ever used it as a kamikaze technique; Gojou Kibakufuda.

 

[Touken]

That's still extremely vague. Nothing is even remotely implied about Tobirama's speed or reflexes, which is what we are talking about here.

Nothing's implied in the manga because no one knew what he was capable of.

I'm basing this off Tobirama's feats and his battle history.

I'll carry this on later or I'll wait for more feats but I'm going to bed now, cya.

 

[Megan Terumi]

Nothing's implied in the manga because no one knew what he was capable of.

I'm basing this off Tobirama's feats and his battle history.

I'll carry this on later or I'll wait for more feats but I'm going to bed now, cya.

Okay, then why did you bring up those quotes?

Neither his feats nor his battle history prove he has better reflexes and speed than Minato. His most recent feats have shown that his Hiraishin can stack up to Minato's and that's it.

I should probably do the same...

 

[Ababeel]

=Touken;12801384]
Tobirama's reflexes >= Minato's.

I'm willing to say his reflexes are better since unlike Minato, Tobirama's been fighting in a constant war since he was a child and from a few feats we've seen, I'd say his reflexes are either on par or better than Minato's.

The fact that he's been trained for war is a really important part for Tobirama.

I disagree. As a matter of fact Minato's reflexes were enough to react to A's full speed and dodge it.
While Tobirama's got half of his body cut by the obito in the last form of his, Minato reacted much better
to obito in his current form, and got only his arm cut off.

the different is clear, I believe.

Tobirama's FTG >= Minato.

Not saying that it's faster, that's impossible since it's instant transmission, but I believe Tobirama uses FTG more effectively due to tactics he's created (seen in this chapter which allows Naruto & Sasuke to finally hit Obito). He's also the creater of FTG and has incorporated it with his sword which effectively allowed him to land a strike on Izuna, a highly praised Uchiha.

No, Tobirama already admitted that Minato is better than him.

 

[Avinash012]

I'd agree.

In practical human speed...as well as body flicker, Minato is faster.


In terms of reflexes, Tobirama wins. He literally has been in war since he was a child...something today's shinobi are only JUST experiencing. This was his everyday or every other day life.

Feat wise, despite being blown in half, he managed to do two things. 1) Place Paper Bombs on Obito. 2) Place a FTG seal on Obito.

What makes this even more ridiculous is this.

1. No one noticed the FTG mark...neither Obito or Minato.
2. He put both Paper bombs and a seal with his off hand apparently (meaning that despite Obito being to his right...he could place the seal and bombs with his left hand...or even faster his then destroyed right hand...meaning he put bombs and seals on before the speed blitz.


Tobirama is just Epic Win....this is why when he yells SILENCE...his brother cries.

Side Note: Love how Naruto said he was the guy with the face of the Second Hokage....because he's too retarded to get he IS the Nidaime Hokage.





S...Since when did Minato solo a war?! I don't recall this....cause if so...I think Bee and Ay would be dead. In addition, if you refer to Kakashi Gaiden...he did not solo. His Konoha allies threw the Kunai thus automatically making a solo not happen. Furthermore, he did that in one battle. One battle does not equate to an entire war.

Minato is the trump card of konoha during 3rd shinobi world war and Bee and Ay both admited that Minato is superiour and Ay stated that Minato defeated them more than one's.............

 

[benzy]

Tobirama is good but really get over Minato > Tobira there is a reason they call him the fastest shinobi in the history . Like Kakashi SAID the NEw Generation will always surpas the older ones.