Minato the worst enemy !

[kiiro]

Well, I got to admit, the dude is cool but, in terms of battle capabilities, he dulls in front of legends like Itachi, hebi sasuke, v2 ei, killer bee, juubi jins, tsunade, war arc sakura, gaara, etc.


I'm always willing to debate this.

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[kiiro]

He’s fast but his attacks never killed anybody that’s not a fodder. If you’re defense is stronger than a simple rasengan and a Kunai knife, then he can’t kill you. He lacks variety/versatility(well rounded flexibility).

False. No one has a durability to support a knife o sword type of weapons. In Naruto everyone has superhuman or less durability.

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Someone like Hashirama was gonna suicide with a mere kunai. Pierce attacks, decapitate, or cut flesh is easy on Naruto characters.

About Rasengan. They cant also resist the rasengan if t hits you in the heart like all the Chidoris or Raikiris:

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One of those in heart is letal. Funnt that all rasengans were in the stomach. And if you forgot, Rasengan does more internal damage than external:

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Even Obito was hitted in the back yet couldnt battle more. He needed to retreat to cure himself.

Yet, there were parts that a Rasengan damaged enough to take out the Pains:

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And yes, they were revived in someway or if they werent then they received enough damaged to not continue that will be the same:

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Even Kakashi confirms twice that rasengan can kill:

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o barrier to avoid the attack then OK. But if not, anything an happen.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

False. No one has a durability to support a knife o sword type of weapons. In Naruto everyone has superhuman or less durability.

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Someone like Hashirama was gonna suicide with a mere kunai. Pierce attacks, decapitate, or cut flesh is easy on Naruto characters.

About Rasengan. They cant also resist the rasengan if t hits you in the heart like all the Chidoris or Raikiris:

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One of those in heart is letal. Funnt that all rasengans were in the stomach. And if you forgot, Rasengan does more internal damage than external:

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Even Obito was hitted in the back yet couldnt battle more. He needed to retreat to cure himself.

Yet, there were parts that a Rasengan damaged enough to take out the Pains:

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And yes, they were revived in someway or if they werent then they received enough damaged to not continue that will be the same:

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Even Kakashi confirms twice that rasengan can kill:

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o barrier to avoid the attack then OK. But if not, anything an happen.

You’re comparing Naruto’s rasengan to minato’s and Hashirama had to take off his whole armor just to get killed by a Kunai knife.
Then you mentioned Obito getting hit and not being able to fight anymore, the reason for that is because his arm never fully healed when he left the cave. When he got older with a fully developed arm, a stronger rasengan (kcm rasengan) was only good enough to scratch him:

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He was still able to fight. Even the rasengan that Konohamaru used against Pain did nothing to him, he got up and healed the Asura realm pain after the attack:

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Sage Mode rasengan>Base rasengan
Demon form rasengan>>Base rasengan and lastly
Kcm rasengan>>>Base rasengan

That’s why I said if your defense is strong, then you won’t be killed. Put Yagura or 3rd Raikage in that situation. How would rasengan and a knife kill them?

 

[Uverdore9]

Then start. Wherever you want. In our profiles or here.

I'll start with Itachi vs Minato.

Itachi has far better speed than minato.


We can understand that from the fact bee pulled a knife on him but couldn't do the same even after he was alerted of itachi's presence.

Rasengan is a powerful attack, after your explanation, it's proven it attacks internally more than externally, but another thing I want to point out is, Itachi has far faster hand speed than minato. That's proven by:

- in his death bed state, Sharingan Sasuke couldn't see through his clone making at all.

- And the most crazy thing about this is that, he could do it whilst throwing countless shurikens to block sasuke's ones.

Which means his hand speed is the fastest in Naruto Verse.

Because :

- Same Sasuke was hyped to've god-like speed in databook. Databook doesn't take amplifications into account.

- the only one who has same nickname is Ae, with his lightning armor.

- Sasuke without his hebi powers had the speed to strike Ei with chidori.

- This same Sasuke who could percieve Ei was incapable of percieving itachi's hands.

- Base Ei has a reaction speed = minato.

- Armoured Ei has a reaction speed >>> minato.

- since reaction speed and strike speed go hand in hand, Itachi can easily catch minato's wrist and misplace the trajectory of Rasengan, effectively avoiding it.

- He can avoid FTG, the same way.

- V2 ei could percieve the markings and almost predict where he'd come from. Minato got away because he marked the eight tails and tricked Ei.

- which absolutely means a sharingan user with multi-progressive vision and analytical ability'll see through it and attack an unaware minato when he appears, leaving him vulnerable.


There-fore itachi wins.

 

[ninjarasengan]

I'll start with Itachi vs Minato.

Itachi has far better speed than minato.


We can understand that from the fact bee pulled a knife on him but couldn't do the same even after he was alerted of itachi's presence.

Rasengan is a powerful attack, after your explanation, it's proven it attacks internally more than externally, but another thing I want to point out is, Itachi has far faster hand speed than minato. That's proven by:

- in his death bed state, Sharingan Sasuke couldn't see through his clone making at all.

- And the most crazy thing about this is that, he could do it whilst throwing countless shurikens to block sasuke's ones.

Which means his hand speed is the fastest in Naruto Verse.

Because :

- Same Sasuke was hyped to've god-like speed in databook. Databook doesn't take amplifications into account.

- the only one who has same nickname is Ae, with his lightning armor.

- Sasuke without his hebi powers had the speed to strike Ei with chidori.

- This same Sasuke who could percieve Ei was incapable of percieving itachi's hands.

- Base Ei has a reaction speed = minato.

- Armoured Ei has a reaction speed >>> minato.

- since reaction speed and strike speed go hand in hand, Itachi can easily catch minato's wrist and misplace the trajectory of Rasengan, effectively avoiding it.

- He can avoid FTG, the same way.

- V2 ei could percieve the markings and almost predict where he'd come from. Minato got away because he marked the eight tails and tricked Ei.

- which absolutely means a sharingan user with multi-progressive vision and analytical ability'll see through it and attack an unaware minato when he appears, leaving him vulnerable.


There-fore itachi wins.

Bee only had to predict that Minato would attack him after feeling him mark his tentacle-This proves nothing

Sasuke who face A had awakened Mangekyou Sharingan and his Chakra had grown more powerful than his Cs2 state. And how hard is it to strike someone in a head on clash?

Minato doesn't need to rely on the Kunai he can mark anyplace he wants...He dropped a Kunai teleported away just as A was about to connect and then teleported back and almost killed him before he could move away from the Kunai he dropped...

 

[Uverdore9]

Bee only had to predict that Minato would attack him after feeling him mark his tentacle-This proves nothing

Sasuke who face A had awakened Mangekyou Sharingan and his Chakra had grown more powerful than his Cs2 state. And how hard is it to strike someone in a head on clash?

Minato doesn't need to rely on the Kunai he can mark anyplace he wants...He dropped a Kunai teleported away just as A was about to connect and then teleported back and almost killed him before he could move away from the Kunai he dropped...

Bee cannot predict minato's attack. He's not sensor.


Minato was staring at him already yet complimented him for reacting to his attack and killing him almost.


That was a hand speed feat.


MS didnt do anything other than make him more evil.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Bee cannot predict minato's attack. He's not sensor.


Minato was staring at him already yet complimented him for reacting to his attack and killing him almost.


That was a hand speed feat.


MS didnt do anything other than make him more evil.

You serious with this?

 

[ninjarasengan]

Bee cannot predict minato's attack. He's not sensor.


Minato was staring at him already yet complimented him for reacting to his attack and killing him almost.


That was a hand speed feat.


MS didnt do anything other than make him more evil.

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How old are you? You do know what predict means right?


: to declare or indicate in advance; especially : foretell on the basis of observation, experience, or scientific reason

basically, to guess.

Minato touched his tentacle and left a Mark on him...so, Just maybe he is going to target him...not rocket science you know:bdpf:

 

[Uverdore9]

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How old are you? You do know what predict means right?


: to declare or indicate in advance; especially : foretell on the basis of observation, experience, or scientific reason

basically, to guess.

Minato touched his tentacle and left a Mark on him...so, Just maybe he is going to target him...not rocket science you know:bdpf:

How does bee know it was marked? There's no proof he knew.

Nor was it stated, nor will minato be surprised had it been such a cheap trick and complimented him.

"Predict" =/= cheap trick in naruto. Prediction equates to visual prowess to see through attacks as lee stated he doesnt have the "eye" to see through attacks.


Put words in naruto context.


Bee is not a sensor, he doesnt have the eye to predict nor is there proof he saw the mark nor should minato who was observibg him compliment him on cheap tricks.


Bee reacted to him, further proof is the sweat in his face which is due to legit reacting to ftg.



Chakra being more potent = faster? And physically powerful? That only means his jutsu strength increased, naruto's chakra is warm as karin noted, does that give him any sort of stat increase?


Indra's chakra was taking over him as Karin noted "This is not Sasuke's chakra" she was refferring to a different chakra type.