Minato supports sasuke's decision

[frozen5]

Currently we only know Sasuke wants to put an end to the current system;create a new system and prove what a real Kage is

lets be real... sasuke is the straight foward and drastic in his decisions... if you are not useful to the objective you're an obsticle and will be ignored or removed by any means necessary.

minato is not.. and would not agree to such a methodology

 

[BLAZE]

I dont care about your biased speculations.
They all stated changing the system and Minato never shared his PoV with others. Yet OP specifically claims he meant about Sasuke's pov.​

i can say the same about u so?

 

[riley freeman]

obito, madara, naruto, gara, jiraiya... i said "knowing sasuke's personality" meaning his method for carrying out this "cleansing" would not be something minato would agree with.

Obito, Madara, Gaara, Jiraiya never said that, and someone's decision shouldn't be based on personality

I agree with the naruto part, after all him and sasuke are similar:

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[giostep]

Knowing Sasukes personality. How do you think he plans on changng the system?
Sasuke works of a whim more then any other character int he series.
I need to get stronger, join orochimmaru.
Orochimaru isnt strong enough to train me, absorb orochimaru
Where is Itachi, Kills diedara
Find itachi, asks questions, then kills itachi
Gets upset about people talking about itachi, targets leaf village
Not strong enough to beat leaf village, joins akatuki
Obito says he needs 8 tails, sasuke takes his inexperienced team and trys to play bee for a chump, gets wrecked 3 times.
Mad at danzo, attacks kage summit, gets wrecked by Ay, kills Danzo, attacks karin, attaks team 7, abandons hawk
Takes itachis eyes cuz he know he is too weak to compete with naruto
Sees itachi and goes on to ask more questions, fights with kabuto (this one isnt his fault though)
Makes the opposite choice his brother told him to make, revives orochimaru
Goes to leaf and bases his choice to destroy it on the answer or Hashirama
Decides he wants to become hokage, helps during war
Fighting with Kaguya and would have let Kakashi and sakura die without even trying to help them, multiple times.

I mean his method of decision making is worse then naruto's, i mean he has no realy linear path of taking action, and he constatly makes bad decisons. aside from Diedera and Kabuto and itachi the rest of his fights were dumb and without his team would have gotten him killed, hel Oonki got him at the summit, obito had to save him....

This is the person that Minato backs for Kage?

 

[BLAZE]

lets be real... sasuke is the straight foward and drastic in his decisions... if you are not useful to the objective you're an obsticle and will be ignored or removed by any means necessary.

minato is not.. and would not agree to such a methodology

Not really
the one u r talking about is Kage summit sasuke on RRoR

 

[riley freeman]

I dont care about your biased speculations.
They all stated changing the system and Minato never shared his PoV with others. Yet OP specifically claims he meant about Sasuke's pov.​

He never stated his PoV is the same as Sasuke or any other for that matter, yet you say he meant explicitly agreeing with Sasuke. Next time you should make a thread he supports Madara because he said he'll end the rotten shinobi system.​

Doesn't change the fact that minato, just like sasuke, knows that before pain can really stop, there has to be a change in the shinobi system

 

[frozen5]

Obito, Madara, Gaara, Jiraiya never said that, and someone's decision shouldn't be based on personality

I agree with the naruto part, after all him and sasuke are similar:

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A character doesnt need to say he wants to change the ninja system, it is clearly visable through their actions, just that madara and obito's method was erasing it completly, jiraya has been seeking that his whole life..

one's personailty wont affect their view, but their methods of acting on this view will definitly be afected

 

[frozen5]

Not really
the one u r talking about is Kage summit sasuke on RRoR

ok.

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[BLAZE]

ok.

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OT:i remember dat sig
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[Naruto D Luffy]

He doesn't agree with sasuke becoming hokage...

 

[riley freeman]

Knowing Sasukes personality. How do you think he plans on changng the system?
Sasuke works of a whim more then any other character int he series.
I need to get stronger, join orochimmaru.
Orochimaru isnt strong enough to train me, absorb orochimaru
Where is Itachi, Kills diedara
Find itachi, asks questions, then kills itachi
Gets upset about people talking about itachi, targets leaf village
Not strong enough to beat leaf village, joins akatuki
Obito says he needs 8 tails, sasuke takes his inexperienced team and trys to play bee for a chump, gets wrecked 3 times.
Mad at danzo, attacks kage summit, gets wrecked by Ay, kills Danzo, attacks karin, attaks team 7, abandons hawk
Takes itachis eyes cuz he know he is too weak to compete with naruto
Sees itachi and goes on to ask more questions, fights with kabuto (this one isnt his fault though)
Makes the opposite choice his brother told him to make, revives orochimaru
Goes to leaf and bases his choice to destroy it on the answer or Hashirama
Decides he wants to become hokage, helps during war
Fighting with Kaguya and would have let Kakashi and sakura die without even trying to help them, multiple times.

I mean his method of decision making is worse then naruto's, i mean he has no realy linear path of taking action, and he constatly makes bad decisons. aside from Diedera and Kabuto and itachi the rest of his fights were dumb and without his team would have gotten him killed, hel Oonki got him at the summit, obito had to save him....

This is the person that Minato backs for Kage?

Judging someone based only on personality is really not good you know and all the sasuke you mentioned where under the uchiha curse of hatred, current sasuke is what I'm talking about

 

[Nifrum]

Is that why he's dead and has some play in why obito started this war

No, he's dead because Obito was a queer.

 

[frozen5]

OT:i remember dat sig
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:hooray:

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[riley freeman]

A character doesnt need to say he wants to change the ninja system, it is clearly visable through their actions, just that madara and obito's method was erasing it completly, jiraya has been seeking that his whole life..

one's personailty wont affect their view, but their methods of acting on this view will definitly be afected

And sasuke's method of acting is?

He doesn't agree with sasuke becoming hokage...

I never said he would, he is kinda biased when it comes to his family

 

[Blackwatch]

This is literally retarded.


EVERYBODY in the NV recognizes and acknowledges that the system needs changing and is presently a piece of steaming shit. Even Onoki says the world has to change.

Nobody even knows the specifics of Sasuke's plan, why even make such a shit thread?

 

[frozen5]

And sasuke's method of acting is?

erase all undesireables

 

[EternalFlame]

Well... obviously something needs to change, it's been broken for god knows how long.

I do think Sasuke's goal is more realistic then Naruto's.

Ever since Nagato got owned by a book, Naruto's goal has been to remove Hatred from the world and bring an era of "true peace" Please. Naruto is still such a little boy, trying to live some fairytale that has no happy ending. There will ALWAYS be someone with hatred out there, it's like Ying and Yang - one can't exist without the other. The only way to remove hatred entirely is to remove free will and that would make Naruto no better then Obito and Madara.

So people will "understand" by sharing Six Paths chakra? Guess what Nardo: that needs to be optional for every single individual, there's going to be people out there that might not want to "understand" - He thinks his ideals and his way is right because he's lived that way his entire life, he thinks he understands the other side that is hatred, but he doesn't - he lingered at the door of hatred but never entered it.

 

[riley freeman]

This is literally retarded.


EVERYBODY in the NV recognizes and acknowledges that the system needs changing and is presently a piece of steaming shit. Even Onoki says the world has to change.

Nobody even knows the specifics of Sasuke's plan, why even make such a shit thread?

Alright thanks, bye

erase all undesireables

Erase everything that's hindering the change right? which is the logical thing to do

Well... obviously something needs to change, it's been broken for god knows how long.

I do think Sasuke's goal is more realistic then Naruto's.

Ever since Nagato got owned by a book, Naruto's goal has been to remove Hatred from the world and bring an era of "true peace" Please. Naruto is still such a little boy, trying to live some fairytale that has no happy ending. There will ALWAYS be someone with hatred out there, it's like Ying and Yang - one can't exist without the other. The only way to remove hatred entirely is to remove free will and that would make Naruto no better then Obito and Madara.

So people will "understand" by sharing Six Paths chakra? Guess what Nardo: that needs to be optional for every single individual, there's going to be people out there that might not want to "understand" - He thinks his ideals and his way is right because he's lived that way his entire life, he thinks he understands the other side that is hatred, but he doesn't - he lingered at the door of hatred but never entered it.

Agreed

 

[BLAZE]

Erase everything that's hindering the change right? which is the logical thing to do

:sasuke: -not really

 

[Senpou]

Can anybody tell me what exactly is sasuke's goal? As far as i have understood he wants to follow itachi's ideals and bring change based on that ideal. And we all know itachi agrees with naruto's ideals and left sasuke for naruto becauze he knows naruto is the one who can change sasuke. Lol