Minato sucks at sage mode, quit wanking him nuthuggers

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Indeed a Senjutsu Enhanced Rasengan coupled with the Speed of FTG ends most fighters.

Exactly. I don't see why people are upset that Minato "sucks" at Sage Mode, It's still quite formidable. FTG Lvl 2 with Sennin Mode enhanced Rasengan will end a lot of people as you mentioned. I think it adds more fire power to his already low arsenal. (In terms of power)
 

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Nah, he's much better than Jiraya at sage mode. Jiraya can't even do it on his own, if Minato summons Fukasaku and Shima then his sage mode is pretty much flawless. He's a perfect sage, hence the pigments around his eyes, he can use it in battle as he's even hinted that he has used it in battle before. Naruto is better at with senjutsu than him yes, but Minato's can still be used effectively, considering Minato's quick fighting style, all he needs is a minute in Sage Mode to end most people.

He wouldn't have become a "Perfect Sage" if he couldn't utilize senjutsu at all. Naruto's first transformation lasted a couple minutes, pretty sure Minato's is around the same due to lack of training.
 

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Eh.. at this point I don't even care if Minato's SM is wanked.
 

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Indeed a Senjutsu Enhanced Rasengan coupled with the Speed of FTG ends most fighters.
Is that based on actual storyline feats or you wanking a Senjutsu'd Rasengan?

OT: Minato is the weakest Hokage. People should stop putting him in their top ten lists.
 

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I think you're just bitter.

Minato is better than Jiraiya, who needed Ma and Pa to use it at all.

Minato isn't good at Sage Mode ON HIS OWN. He surely would've just summoned Ma and Pa had his other arm not been cut off.

It's pretty clear that Kishi trolled him with this arm stunt. He did that so Minato wouldn't be able to summon and fuse with them. That's why it wasn't revealed until AFTER he lost his arm that Sage Chakra was the way to go. And it's funny how his arm never regenerated yet Hiruzen's entire body was able to after getting hit with those black orbs
I wondered about this aswell, and the only thing i came up with is basically kishi wanted to nerf Minato.
 

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Is that based on actual storyline feats or you wanking a Senjutsu'd Rasengan?

OT: Minato is the weakest Hokage. People should stop putting him in their top ten lists.

Stop Trolling.
 

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I wondered about this aswell, and the only thing i came up with is basically kishi wanted to nerf Minato.

I think it's because at that point Obito was'nt fully in control of the Juubi.
 

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in most 1v1's SM isnt even a option unless they start in it. so yeah he completely sucks at it, whats your point?
 

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Is that based on actual storyline feats or you wanking a Senjutsu'd Rasengan?

OT: Minato is the weakest Hokage. People should stop putting him in their top ten lists.
Senjutsu Rasengan was the one that hit Juubito, Senjutsu Rasengan ended both Human and Naraka path please just leave with the Minato hate because no takes haters like you seriously.

I think it's because at that point Obito was'nt fully in control of the Juubi.
Ehh that could be a factor.
 

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Senjutsu Rasengan was the one that hit Juubito, Senjutsu Rasengan ended both Human and Naraka path please just leave with the Minato hate because no takes haters like you seriously.


Ehh that could be a factor.
Obito was'nt using the Negate Ninjutsu Black Orbs because he could'nt.He was fighting for control.
 

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Obito was'nt using the Negate Ninjutsu Black Orbs because he could'nt.He was fighting for control.

He wasn't using the black orbs when he cut Minato's arm off. So I don't think what you're saying is the case
 

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He wasn't using the black orbs when he cut Minato's arm off. So I don't think what you're saying is the case
The staff itself was made from the same substance that the black orbs are composed of.Obito had every intent of Using the Ninjutsu Negating black substance unlike the part where he was mindlessly attacking.
 

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The staff itself was made from the same substance that the black orbs are composed of.Obito had every intent of Using the Ninjutsu Negating black substance unlike the part where he was mindlessly attacking.

Actually you can't really differentiate them. He created the staff from his hand just like the attacks he used against hiruzen. You can clearly see that in this picture
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Notice the black point sticking out of the hand Obito is holding the staff in, indicating that he shaped the staff from his hand, while the black orbs are separate and floating over his head.

I considered the possibility you're talking about a long time ago but the manga doesn't really support it too much. Besides the orbs, the staff, and the attacks he used against hiruzen all have the same characteristics, and while Hiruzen did regenerate, it took a LONG time for him to do so. So I think evidence support that they are all the same jutsu
 

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Uchiha username: Check

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Uchiha fan mad about 1 of Minato's abilities and trying to downplay him more than the manga did via exaggeration: double check.


All right, first off, it's not wanking unless it's contradicting what the manga said. Here's what the viz translation said according to BlinkST, who runs the viz scan sticky. Kakashi: If I recall sensei, senjutsu is not your specialty. Minato: That's an understatement, It takes too long to knead that chakra, and I can't maintain it for very long. Truth be told, I haven't used it much in real battles.
manga facts.

1. Minato is not good at senjutsu.

2. He is a true sage as seen with his eye pigments.

3. It takes longer than he likes to enter SM.

4. He stated that he can't maintain it for long

5. He said that he hasn't used it in real combat much, meaning that he has used it in real combat.


Conclusion: Minato is bad at sage mode because he takes up time entering it and it doesn't last long. However, he has used it before in real combat, meaning that any argument a hater or Uchiha trad makes about him not being able to use it is null and void because it's clear that he can in combat conditions from the statement he's made about his past. Unless the fan says Minato can last a long time in it, he's not wanking him, but utilizing a toll of Minato's limited as it may be. In that situation, it's you, the naysayers that breach manga facts to support your dislike.


I'd like to also add that "Minato can only maintain it for 5 seconds" is pure speculation invented by haters. We have not seen Minato in the process of lossing SM after being kicked by Madara, therefore, saying he lost it then and there is pure speculation. It's not more founded than saying his SM lasted for the entire conversation between Madara and Obito until he was shown without it. Haters just want to go with the minimum because they feel threatened.


2nd, Minato's better than Jiraya. Jiraya was an imperfect sage while Minato was a true one. Jiraya couldn't enter SM on his own, Minato has demonstrated that he can.


Pure, unadulterated, unbiased assessment of the manga facts.
 

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Actually you can't really differentiate them. He created the staff from his hand just like the attacks he used against hiruzen. You can clearly see that in this picture
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Notice the black point sticking out of the hand Obito is holding the staff in, indicating that he shaped the staff from his hand, while the black orbs are separate and floating over his head.

I considered the possibility you're talking about a long time ago but the manga doesn't really support it too much. Besides the orbs, the staff, and the attacks he used against hiruzen all have the same characteristics, and while Hiruzen did regenerate, it took a LONG time for him to do so. So I think evidence support that they are all the same jutsu

True,but when Obito attacked Hiruzen with the Black Orbs he was a mindless beast attacking anyone in sight.That's why I believe Hiruzen did'nt die right on the spot because Obito was'nt in control of himself to apply the Ninjutsu Negatiing abilitiy to the black orbs.
 
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