minato>>>prime kabuto??? (details inside)

[~Sovereign~]

I did read however it is a little bit easier said than done. Not to mention Kabuto isnt exactly slow either anymore. Hes not FTG fast, but he can dodge Minato's base speed attacks and i dont believe Kabuto is going to let any of Minato's kunai anywhere near him.

minato only needs to touch kabuto ONCE in order for all this to work....which i high think is possible

kabuto's best attack to use on minato is genjutsu, but minato can still use ftg while under genjutsu like itachi used susano while under the genjutsu (itachi didnt break the genjutsu, he saved sasuke while under the jutsu...)

 

[ianeustaquio]

We cannot know how strong Minato really is,not to mention that only some of his sealing tech. was seen and that Kushina's mother was the one who taught Minato.
Anyways,I agree.

 

[Waltz]

That's not true. Nature chakra mixes with the user's natural chakra to amplify jutsu, so while nature energy is infinite, chakra, which is necessary to balance the flow and keep him from turning to stone, is not infinite.

I reviewed the fight, and what you say is true. The only think now stopping me from agreeing is how would minato avoid's Kabuto's Genjutsu

 

[TheBrightSide]

minato only needs to touch kabuto ONCE in order for all this to work....which i high think is possible

kabuto's best attack to use on minato is genjutsu, but minato can still use ftg while under genjutsu like itachi used susano while under the genjutsu (itachi didnt break the genjutsu, he saved sasuke while under the jutsu...)

Its possible but still Minato would need everything to go right for that to happen.. I just dont see him getting straight to Kabuto if he has already summoned edos which would of course be rather problematic for him. Gaara's father alone would be able to solo Minato.

 

[~Sovereign~]

@ red underline

wasn't that all cleared up in a previous thread of yours?
Kabuto in his prime already has his edo's ready to go, Kabuto does not need to re-do the ritual sense it has already been done.

no lol i dont think people understand what i was saying

and like said in this thread, minato has a counter to edo tensai ANYWAY

do you agree with THIS thread?

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

Minato's my favorite character, and I feel he can beat just about anyone in the NarutoVerse, but idt he could be Kabuto with DSM, Taka's genes (- Sasuke's), Oro's chakra/jutsu, etc... It'd just be too tough. I could see it happening like 3 or 4/10 times.

 

[Rohasu]

minato wins obviously :|

 

[~Sovereign~]

I reviewed the fight, and what you say is true. The only think now stopping me from agreeing is how would minato avoid's Kabuto's Genjutsu

i explained already it's under "flash paralysis"

if itachi was able to STILL move AND use susano while under sound genjutsu, why cant mianto simply use FTG to escape sound genjutsu...itachi didnt break sound genjutsu BTW, he just jumped in and save sasuke with susano

Its possible but still Minato would need everything to go right for that to happen.. I just dont see him getting straight to Kabuto if he has already summoned edos which would of course be rather problematic for him. Gaara's father alone would be able to solo Minato.

minato only needs to touch kabuto ONCE

he can throw the kunai at kabuto and use ftg (like he did to tobi)

 

[TheBrightSide]

i explained already it's under "flash paralysis"

if itachi was able to STILL move AND use susano while under sound genjutsu, why cant mianto simply use FTG to escape sound genjutsu...itachi didnt break sound genjutsu BTW, he just jumped in and save sasuke with susano



minato only needs to touch kabuto ONCE

he can throw the kunai at kabuto and use ftg (like he did to tobi)

And you expect none of the edos or Kabuto himself to block or deflect it? Thats illogical.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Minato's my favorite character, and I feel he can beat just about anyone in the NarutoVerse, but idt he could be Kabuto with DSM, Taka's genes (- Sasuke's), Oro's chakra/jutsu, etc... It'd just be too tough. I could see it happening like 3 or 4/10 times.

i just explained how tho lol

 

[Multiply]

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im not saying minato wins hands down BUT i think minato has a high chance of winning. Im not saying minato is top 5 (he's #7 IMO) but he is just a bad match up against kabuto

kabuto's jutsus/abilities: Edo Tensai, Healing, Liquid Form, Flash Paralysis, Body Shed, Sensor/Avoid AND Immune to nearly EVERYTHING

i dont think edo tensai can be used in a 1v1 because it REQUIRES a sacrifice and there is no one to sacrifice if the only people on the field is kabuto and his opponent BUT it doesnt matter for this thread because minato has a counter for even edo tensai

minato's jutsus/abilities: FTG, sealing barrier, food cart destroyer, rasengan, contract seal AND reaper death seal

here is HOW minato counters ALL of kabuto jutsu

edo tensai (if even allowed in a 1v1) - CONTRACT SEAL will fully break kabuto's control over his edos and the edos might even turn against kabuto and began to help minato. Minato can easily touch kabuto and use the contract seal via FTG.

flash paralysis - this just will paralysis minato but not fully paralysis. (itachi was STILL moving while he was under this jutsu) Minato can simply use FTG to escape being kept paralysed

body shedding - this can be a problem for minato to capture kabuto BUT this jutsu takes ALOT of chakra and this WONT happen to minato because he has good reflexes

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liquid form- is probably minato's biggest problem BUT kabuto cant rely on this ability forever because minato's rasengan MIGHT be able to vaporize kabuto with rasengan (tbb almost vaporized suigetsu and suigetsu was using this ability while inside the ocean....i bring this up because rasengan and tbb has the affect/formula but on a differnce scale...minato cant use tbb BUT kabuto isnt inside the ocean while use liquid form)

^^^kabuto can also run out of chakra eventually

sensor/avoid - this WONT help kabuto because sensing minato is useless because he can change location instantly with FTG, AND avoiding minato is nearly impossible when he's using the speed of FTG

healing- this doesnt hurt minato....it will help kabuto last longer tho

kabuto's immune system- miinato dont use any special potions or nothing so this ability is useless in this fight

summonings - kabuto can use his snake summon but minato can easily counter it by using food cart destroyer and minato can use space time barrier to counter anything the snake throws at minato

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK

Agreed tbh, Minato would just stomp him. Not easily, he would just wreck him though.

 

[~Sovereign~]

And you expect none of the edos or Kabuto himself to block or deflect it? Thats illogical.

deflecting it wont stop minato from teleporting to it (to get close to kabuto)

AND minato can put FTG markings on the ground or walls with his hands and eventually kabuto will step close to one of the markings

minato will do this

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[Waltz]

i explained already it's under "flash paralysis"

if itachi was able to STILL move AND use susano while under sound genjutsu, why cant mianto simply use FTG to escape sound genjutsu...itachi didnt break sound genjutsu BTW, he just jumped in and save sasuke with susano

Ok, makes sense. I agree

 

[~Sovereign~]

Agreed tbh, Minato would just stomp him. Not easily, he would just wreck him though.

thanks

minato cant afford to slip up

 

[TheBrightSide]

deflecting it wont stop minato from teleporting to it (to get close to kabuto)

AND minato can put FTG markings on the ground or walls with his hands and eventually kabuto will step close to one of the markings

minato will do this

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Assuming youre not limiting Kabuto's edo arsenal, Gaara's father can absorb all of those in his sand. Meanwhile dealing with 30+ Edo's attacking him? It just doesnt make sense. Minato is one of the strongest characters in NV and beats almost everyone 1V1, but this is illogical.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Assuming youre not limiting Kabuto's edo arsenal, Gaara's father can absorb all of those in his sand. Meanwhile dealing with 30+ Edo's attacking him? It just doesnt make sense. Minato is one of the strongest characters in NV and beats almost everyone 1V1, but this is illogical.

sand cant remove the ftg markings that minato uses his hands to put on the ground/wall

minato is a space time jutsu user...AVOIDING (not fighting) isnt very hard to do

like i said minato's goal is to TOUCH kabuto once, NOT fight 30+ edos

minato can easily throw the kunai AROUND kabuto and teleport to it to become close to kabuto eventually kabuto will get touched unless you're trying to say minato cant get one hit on kabuto.....

 

[TheBrightSide]

sand cant remove the ftg markings that minato uses his hands to put on the ground/wall

minato is a space time jutsu user...AVOIDING (not fighting) isnt very hard to do

like i said minato's goal is to TOUCH kabuto once, NOT fight 30+ edos

minato can easily throw the kunai AROUND kabuto and teleport to it to become close to kabuto eventually kabuto will get touched unless you're trying to say minato cant get one hit on kabuto.....

That is actually exactly what i am saying. A sand user such as Gaara or his father is the perfect matchup for Minato. He can simply catch and bury all his kunai and the markings on the ground wont be much help as far as getting to Kabuto is concerned, who could be sitting behind his edo army. Lets not forget Zabuza can perform hidden mist and obscure Minatos vision. Things like that just pile up when you are talking about 30 plus ninja all with their own unique abilities and kekkei genkai. This isnt close for any ninja really except for maybe Madara, tobi, and maybe Naruto.

 

[KingHashirama]

Who can he summon as Edo tensei? First he'll require 6 months of prep time..... . And also, another shinobi's powers aren't his own power.. thats why its a forbidden jutsu in the first place.

And , also DSM Kabuto is stronger then Minato. FTG will be countered by Kabuto's genjutsu. ^_^.

 

[blazekev90]

Nice try, but Minato doesn't even have what it takes to successfully defeat Orochimaru, no way in hell is he defeating Kabuto. So, until you somehow come up with a logical way in which he defeats Orochimaru 1st, than the idea will be entertained. Btw not including Edo, that wouldn't be needed.

 

[~Sovereign~]

That is actually exactly what i am saying. A sand user such as Gaara or his father is the perfect matchup for Minato. He can simply catch and bury all his kunai and the markings on the ground wont be much help as far as getting to Kabuto is concerned, who could be sitting behind his edo army. Lets not forget Zabuza can perform hidden mist and obscure Minatos vision. Things like that just pile up when you are talking about 30 plus ninja all with their own unique abilities and kekkei genkai. This isnt close for any ninja really except for maybe Madara, tobi, and maybe Naruto.

i said CANT lol

sand CAN move kunais BUT it CANT move the markings on the ground/wall

the sand cant stop minato from teleporting

edos wont have a chance to do all of this...minato just has to touch kabuto once and all the edos will be free'd

btw if zabuza uses mist jutsu, it'll blind all the edos and how does this stop minato from following kabuto via ftg??? (nice try but that is a bad idea for the situation)

Who can he summon as Edo tensei? First he'll require 6 months of prep time..... . And also, another shinobi's powers aren't his own power.. thats why its a forbidden jutsu in the first place.

And , also DSM Kabuto is stronger then Minato. FTG will be countered by Kabuto's genjutsu. ^_^.

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did you read???

i explained this in op

Nice try, but Minato doesn't even have what it takes to successfully defeat Orochimaru, no way in hell is he defeating Kabuto. So, until you somehow come up with a logical way in which he defeats Orochimaru 1st, than the idea will be entertained. Btw not including Edo, that wouldn't be needed.

WHAT??????? ARE YOU SERIOUS??????

oro is HORRIBLE especially when compared to minato

oro couldnt beat OLD 3rd hokage WITH Edo hashirama and Edo tobirama
oro lost to 4 tailed naruto
oro lost to itachi....TWICE
oro lost to sasuke WITHOUT ms/ems

oro has NO answer for minato

the only thing oro can do is keep regenerating...but oro has limits...minato just has to keep attacking oro until he runs out of chakra

stop overrating oro

talk to me about oro when oro finally wins a fight

i just gave you an explaination of how prime kabuto loses to minato, what do you think oro can do to mianto....oro doesnt even have a genjutsu for minato