Minato not being good in SM is an understatement, as said by Minato himself!

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Good luck in using it against a mangafact when Minato actually used it against Madara


He used it because Senjutsu is needed to harm Madara. Again, not that hard to figure out. Why not use it the night Obito attacked Konoha?
 

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I don't see it.That could just be the color of his Edo eyes.


It could, and that's why I'm not screaming it's a manga fact and anyone who disagrees is illogical like a certain person I know (specific). However, it's not just his eyes, but the whole area on his face is dark. I'll post only the scan. If necessary, I'll post only the panel. It looks alot like when Naruto was knocked back by Madara when in SM.

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No "SM is not your forte" doesn't quite capture how much he actually sucks at using SM; thus, its an understatement. What's so hard about that to understand? You're using a common expression's third rate definition to try to legitimize your argument, but everyone knows that's not what Minato means. Actually, what you said means roughly the same thing as what I'm saying, so I don't exactly know what you're getting at.

So you know what Minato wanted to say and others don't ? Good point.
 

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I still don't understand why Kishi gave Minato SM in the first place. What df was the point? To troll him?
 

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It could, and that's why I'm not screaming it's a manga fact and anyone who disagrees is illogical like a certain person I know (specific). However, it's not just his eyes, but the whole area on his face is dark. I'll post only the scan. If necessary, I'll post only the panel. It looks alot like when Naruto was knocked back by Madara when in SM.

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It's still hard to see because of the black and white color scheme,I can't really tell if Naruto's eyes still have the markings around them or not.
 

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FTG does not take large amounts of chakra, It's just too complicated that it needed 3 fodders to use it. I also thought Minato fans used the argument "FTG doesn't use a lot of chakra" vs tobi when Minato fans were trying to make it out that minato has a large chakra tank? Let's stick to one thing?

Minato took in senjutsu, teleported to madara got beat and his Sennin mode was done thus concluding that He only made enough for one attack.
FTG mecanism is to teleport to a marking, that's all. I don't see how 3jounins would be needed to execute one move if it's not because of chakra requirement. Minato is already confirmed to have enormous quantity of chakra(from learning Sage Mode), so spamming FTG shouldn't be a problem for him, just like clones for Naruto for example.

Now i'll ask you a question. Minato says it takes too long for him to kneed the natural energy, yet you say Minato entered SM just before attacking Madara. How could you explain this when he was just moving at that moment(since he throwed a kunai before that) when it's said you can't gather natural energy while being mobile? That would also mean he instantly entered SM. Wouldn't that contradict with the statement? So when did Minato actually entered SM? Before that moment or right before attacking Madara?
 

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It's still hard to see because of the black and white color scheme,I can't really tell if Naruto's eyes still have the markings around them or not.

Which is why we don't know, but because of this, the possibility can't be denied.
 

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If he said he sucks, he sucks - don't know why this is being argued lol.
 

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He used it because Senjutsu is needed to harm Madara. Again, not that hard to figure out. Why not use it the night Obito attacked Konoha?

Ummm yea cuz maybe he was too busy to save his son then to bring his Wife to His son and then to save the village and yet he managed to defeat Tobi without SM ? Invalid Argument rofl
 

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So you know what Minato wanted to say and others don't ? Good point.

Woah nahweh. Danks.

@your other post. Minato thought Obito was Madara at the time. If he didn't use it against him then I doubt he'd use it against anyone else.
 
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I still don't understand why Kishi gave Minato SM in the first place. What df was the point? To troll him?

I have no idea.It's not like it actually anything against Madara so I don't get the point of giving Minato SM if he's just going to get beaten so easily.
 

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He used it because Senjutsu is needed to harm Madara. Again, not that hard to figure out. Why not use it the night Obito attacked Konoha?
The reason in using something doesn't matter here. What matters is the possibility to use it. Minato showed the possibility to use it in actual battle when he used it against Madara, hence it's not out of his capability to use it in battle, simple
 

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If he said he sucks, he sucks - don't know why this is being argued lol.

Cuz we can discuss it unlike the guys who says "he sucks" ignoring the fact he never stated that.
 

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FTG mecanism is to teleport to a marking, that's all. I don't see how 3jounins would be needed to execute one move if it's not because of chakra requirement. Minato is already confirmed to have enormous quantity of chakra(from learning Sage Mode), so spamming FTG shouldn't be a problem for him, just like clones for Naruto for example.

Now i'll ask you a question. Minato says it takes too long for him to kneed the natural energy, yet you say Minato entered SM just before attacking Madara. How could you explain this when he was just moving at that moment(since he throwed a kunai before that) when it's said you can't gather natural energy while being mobile? That would also mean he instantly entered SM. Wouldn't that contradict with the statement? So when did Minato actually entered SM? Before that moment or right before attacking Madara?
Isn't FTG one of the most complicated justus in the series?It would make sense for why it takes all of Minato's bodyguards to use it since they don't have any mastery over the technique.
 

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I have no idea.It's not like it actually anything against Madara so I don't get the point of giving Minato SM if he's just going to get beaten so easily.

Okay . Base Madara > Hashirama in SM . Hashirama SUCKS in SM cuz he wasnt able to stop Base Madara. Why u are comparing Minato to Juubi Jin DUde ? Are we saying Minato >RMadara or something like that ? You only know that "he lost to juubi jin" . Keep saying that.
 

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He said he was'nt good at it,that's pretty much the same thing.

Okay Minato sucks in SM , he cant used it battle , cuz he sucks , he is not able to use in combat . Happy ?
 

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Okay Minato sucks in SM , he cant used it battle , cuz he sucks , he is not able to use in combat . Happy ?


That's false though. If they're saying he's incapable of using it in battle, they're illogical haters that deny manga facts. Don't let numbers intimidate you. Most of the base claimed Minato wouldn't be able to use Kurama or enter BM, but he did. The majority's opinion does not matter, only the logical opinions.
 

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FTG mecanism is to teleport to a marking, that's all. I don't see how 3jounins would be needed to execute one move if it's not because of chakra requirement. Minato is already confirmed to have enormous quantity of chakra(from learning Sage Mode), so spamming FTG shouldn't be a problem for him, just like clones for Naruto for example.

Now i'll ask you a question. Minato says it takes too long for him to kneed the natural energy, yet you say Minato entered SM just before attacking Madara. How could you explain this when he was just moving at that moment(since he throwed a kunai before that) when it's said you can't gather natural energy while being mobile? That would also mean he instantly entered SM. Wouldn't that contradict with the statement? So when did Minato actually entered SM? Before that moment or right before attacking Madara?

He kneaded Senjutsu chakra while obito was having a conversation with madara.

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Minato deosn't move at all until hes in Sage mode. The time it took madara and obito to reconcile, Minato was kneading senjutsu chakra.

This is what im saying, in a battle, you wont have time to kneads senjutsu chakra while the other person has a conversation with a wall. That is why it's useless in battle.
 

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Okay Minato sucks in SM , he cant used it battle , cuz he sucks , he is not able to use in combat . Happy ?
Did I say he can't use it in battle?No I did'nt,however Minato admitted in the manga that it takes too long to gather nature energy and he can't maintain SM for long.

Ergo he sucks at SM.
 
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