I don't have the patience for this one , blaze or ispeak please do it for me..For someone to have read the entire manga, and deny sasuke having tsukyomi.. then say the databook proves nothing.. i can't do it.. Pure idiocy...
I don't have the patience for this one , blaze or ispeak please do it for me..For someone to have read the entire manga, and deny sasuke having tsukyomi.. then say the databook proves nothing.. i can't do it.. Pure idiocy...
When is it ever stated in the manga that Sasuke has tsukuyomi? *I'm waiting*
Danzo compared Itachi and Sasuke's genjutsu, nothing more. And as I said the databook was speaking only of Itachi's susanoo, so it could very well only apply to him.
And then there's Sasuke stating to awaken susanoo one needs only to possess MS in both eyes. Nothing about tsukuyomi.
Not all MS users awaken the same jutsu as shown by Shisui.
Resorting to insults simply makes you seem like an immature little kid who can't have his way.
Tbh lets put this down. This is to the people who say its kishi's word and not jiraiya's. If thats the case what sasuke said here is also kishi's word?;
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As i said what jiraiya said is his opinion no different to what sasuke said
Nope, Minato had lots of talent, more than most , but you have to look at the age..
According to the databook
"Though itachi has few feats, the real indication of his skill is shown by who he can be compared to as such a young age.."
Itachi was only 11 and was defeating sannin, at age 17 capable of defeating kakashi and other kage level ninja... minato was around 28 or so , and wasn't in his prime , If you were to compare who has more talent, Itachi is progressing far faster at a younger age than him by far..
Itachi (21) is debatable stronger than Minato who was in his upper 20's..
Now give itachi 6 years training time to reach Minato's age, who will stomp who?
Sharingan does not make people strong, obito and those noob police officers are clear examples of that...
The true people with most talent in this manga are sasuke and naruto.. at age 16 they are capable of defeating almost everyone in the manga..
Not really smart are you? Minato created FTG before he created rasengan and even after his death no one was able to deduce the mechanics of it. There are lot of geniuses after him but none of them including Itachi was able to deduce it's mechanics. Do you think that no one except Minato wanted to have that technique? A technique that can defeat enemies in a blink of an eye? For all we know, all ninjas wanted to learn that tech.
He created FTG from scratch with no KKG involve. Itachi died at age 23, but what technique does he invented from his own effort? Most of itachi's techs are MS techs. Minato created S rank and A rank techs from scratch while the uchihas was already given those techs. so, who's talented? Someone who invented his own technique which no one was able to deduce the mechanics or those who was given the tech because they have KKG?
When is it ever stated in the manga that Sasuke has tsukuyomi? *I'm waiting*
Danzo compared Itachi and Sasuke's genjutsu, nothing more. And as I said the databook was speaking only of Itachi's susanoo, so it could very well only apply to him.
And then there's Sasuke stating to awaken susanoo one needs only to possess MS in both eyes. Nothing about tsukuyomi.
Not all MS users awaken the same jutsu as shown by Shisui.
Resorting to insults simply makes you seem like an immature little kid who can't have his way.
to use SUSANNO, ones eyes needs to be able to see through light (amaterasu) and darkness (Tsukyomi) , only then can one use the power of the temptous god,susanno
if that isn't clear enough, idk what else is..
insults? you're incompetent if you've read the databooks and and manga and still don't realize sasuke has tsukyomi.. it's as simple as that...
Not really smart are you? Minato created FTG before he created rasengan and even after his death no one was able to deduce the mechanics of it. There are lot of geniuses after him but none of them including Itachi was able to deduce it's mechanics. Do you think that no one except Minato wanted to have that technique? A technique that can defeat enemies in a blink of an eye? For all we know, all ninjas wanted to learn that tech.
He created FTG from scratch with no KKG involve. Itachi died at age 23, but what technique does he invented from his own effort? Most of itachi's techs are MS techs. Minato created S rank and A rank techs from scratch while the uchihas was already given those techs. so, who's talented? Someone who invented his own technique which no one was able to deduce the mechanics or those who was given the tech because they have KKG?
Right because creating techniques makes you more of a genius than other people?
Most of kisame's op chakra draining abilties which are 1 hit kills, he would have created himself, is he more of a genius than itachi? minato? anyone?
deidara created all his jutsu himself, is he more of a genius than minato and itachi?
gaara's sand coffin etc
Naruto's rasenshruiken
Q.Q GTFO
Grats on minato's part
to use SUSANNO, ones eyes needs to be able to see through light (amaterasu) and darkness (Tsukyomi) , only then can one use the power of the temptous god,susanno
if that isn't clear enough, idk what else is..
insults? you're incompetent if you've read the databooks and and manga and still don't realize sasuke has tsukyomi.. it's as simple as that...
And as I've already said the databook was speaking only of Itachi's susanoo when saying that. It also says that susanoo comes with the yata mirror and sword of totsuka, so I guess that means all susanoos acquire those legendary weapons right? No. It was merely referencing Itachi's susanoo when saying that, which is why I said it may only be referencing Itachi when saying one needs amaterasu and tsukuyomi to awaken susanoo. If you weren't so close-minded then you'd see that.
You're also ignoring the manga where Sasuke clearly states only those who possess the double mangekyou can use susanoo. No mention of tsukuyomi anywhere.
I'm not saying he can't have it, only that there's no concrete evidence to support him having it.
And more insults I see. You can't go one post without insulting somebody can you? I guess it speaks to how immature you are.
Anyway meh I'm done because I'd rather not have this turn into a flame war since you can't seem to go one post without insulting me.
And as I've already said the databook was speaking only of Itachi's susanoo when saying that. It also says that susanoo comes with the yata mirror and sword of totsuka, so I guess that means all susanoos acquire those legendary weapons right? No. It was merely referencing Itachi's susanoo when saying that, which is why I said it may only be referencing Itachi when saying one needs amaterasu and tsukuyomi to awaken susanoo. If you weren't so close-minded then you'd see that.
You're also ignoring the manga where Sasuke clearly states only those who possess the double mangekyou can use susanoo. No mention of tsukuyomi anywhere.
I'm not saying he can't have it, only that there's no concrete evidence to support him having it.
And more insults I see. You can't go one post without insulting somebody can you? I guess it speaks to how immature you are.
Anyway meh I'm done because I'd rather not have this turn into a flame war since you can't seem to go one post without insulting me.
and madara doesn't have Tsukyomi and amaterasu to right? ?? Right?
Which is why he totally wants to use tsukyomi on the moon? Right? yup you're right! Madara doesn't have tsukyomi , nope
and madara doesn't have Tsukyomi and amaterasu to right? ?? Right?
Which is why he totally wants to use tsukyomi on the moon? Right? yup you're right! Madara doesn't have tsukyomi , nope
Right because creating techniques makes you more of a genius than other people?
Most of kisame's op chakra draining abilties which are 1 hit kills, he would have created himself, is he more of a genius than itachi? minato? anyone?
deidara created all his jutsu himself, is he more of a genius than minato and itachi?
gaara's sand coffin etc
Naruto's rasenshruiken
Q.Q GTFO
Grats on minato's part
You mean to say that those who are gifted with jutsu because they have KKG's are more talented than those who invented their own S-ranks techs? Only an idiot would think about that. We are comparing Minato to Itachi and Sasuke. Why include the others? Even if they have created their techs, are those techs really special like FTG?
Shikamaru is a genius but doesn't have the talent to create his own tech. Your comparison fails. Nice try!
I disagree. You can say the same for the Uchiha's for Minato who uses FTG each-and-every time in battle. A man consider I genius as well, but has not shown anything besides dodging every attack with his FTG. Strip FTG away and see just how a genius Minato is.
if u strip the sharingan away will see how good itachi a=or sasuke is let alone if there a genius there only good because of there eyes. The fourth dnt have the luxury
Close minded? differentiates from what i believe? No sir, you're the close minded one who rejects facts from the databook, and manga evidence
Uchiha itachi: Amaterasu in left eye, Tsukyomi right eye
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After use of amaterasu- Bleeding left eye
After use of tsukyomi - intense pain and strain on right eye
Uchiha sasuke
Amaterasu in the right eye, Tsukyomi in the left
After use of amaterasu- Bleeding right eye
After use of tsukyomi- intense pain and strain on left eye
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Go ahead and show me the the manga scans of itachi or sasuke holding their eye in pain after using a a normal non tsukyomi genjutsu
If the databook is fact then every susanoo comes with yata mirror and the sword of totsuka right? It never says they're only unique to Itachi and states them as if they're regular weapons for all susanoos.
As for your scan, here.
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No MS active yet he's still holding his eye in pain after using a genjutsu.
All I'm saying is that perhaps only Itachi had to awaken amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use susanoo since it was only referring to his susanoo in the databook.
It's never been stated in the manga that Sasuke possesses tsukuyomi. He clearly says only those who possess the DOUBLE MANGKEYOU can use susanoo. No mention of tsukuyomi being a requirement.
Maybe you should stop being so close-minded and actually think about it instead of ignoring everything that differentiates with your beliefs.
I disagree. You can say the same for the Uchiha's for Minato who uses FTG each-and-every time in battle. A man consider I genius as well, but has not shown anything besides dodging every attack with his FTG. Strip FTG away and see just how a genius Minato is.
"Strip sharingan away from Itachi and Sasuke and see how genius they are."
This and bold are both stupid comments in my opinion. Sasuke and Itachi both use their sharingans in every battle so what was the point you were making? Minato has more talent because he had no Keke genkai and because he invented his two main jutsu himself. Itachi has more power but as far as talent im giving it to minato. if someone with the same potiential as minato was an Uchiha then he would be WAY more powerful than Itachi. imo of coarse
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