Underline: Thanks to FTG. You can not ignore it or deny it. Though it is his special trait that makes him him, without it, in my opinion, he is nothing but a fodder Shinobi/Ninja. The same can go with Itachi or Sasuke. If anyone I see as "Talented" than them three is Tsunade, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, Kabuto, Sakura, the Third Hokage, the Third and Fourth Raikage, etc.
I disagree. You can say the same for the Uchiha's for Minato who uses FTG each-and-every time in battle. A man consider I genius as well, but has not shown anything besides dodging every attack with his FTG. Strip FTG away and see just how a genius Minato is.
Yes and with Kyuubi he got even more chakra: you can't deny that. And to get control of a bijuu, you kind of need at least a bit of cooperation of the bijuu. It wouldn't have looked good for Naruto if he didn't have his mother's help with subdueing Kyuubi. Killer Bee didn't have that many problems with Hachibi, but he still needed the bijuu's cooperation to get fully in control.Naruto is a Uzamki they have lots of chakra all of them.
Bee trained and got in control of Eight Tails btw without a biju help lol he didnt fight the biju with a biju.
I agree. Minato doesn't have the aid of a KKG like Itachi and Sasuke do, which should make it quite obvious that he's more talented.
Underline: Thanks to FTG. You can not ignore it or deny it. Though it is his special trait that makes him him, without it, in my opinion, he is nothing but a fodder Shinobi/Ninja. The same can go with Itachi or Sasuke. If anyone I see as "Talented" than them three is Tsunade, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, Kabuto, Sakura, the Third Hokage, the Third and Fourth Raikage, etc.
Not having the aid of a KKG doesn't mean automatically that one is more talented than another ninja with KKG
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Alos i think the Uchias are strong mostly due to their eyes and Minato has no Kekki Genkai.
OFC You need to be the bijuus friends and i didnt say Naruto name because he got help.Yes and with Kyuubi he got even more chakra: you can't deny that. And to get control of a bijuu, you kind of need at least a bit of cooperation of the bijuu. It wouldn't have looked good for Naruto if he didn't have his mother's help with subdueing Kyuubi. Killer Bee didn't have that many problems with Hachibi, but he still needed the bijuu's cooperation to get fully in control.
Not having the aid of a KKG doesn't mean automatically that one is more talented than another ninja with KKG
When it's a kkg that has the ability to copy moves, predict moves, and see chakra it kind of does. Minato didn't have any of those advantages like Itachi and Sasuke do yet he's still a top tier shinobi.
Minato isn't undefeatable, which some people on this forum seem to forget
Being talented doesn't always mean you're the strongest. We're saying that Minato is the most talented ever, not the strongest. So i don't know why you begin your comparison with Itachi and Sasuke in terms of power.:sy:Problem is that we can't say for sure that Minato is more talented because he's DEAD. For all we know, if he had been still alive and had to fight both Itachi and Sasuke, he could be defeated when the Uchiha brothers use some kind of tactic. Minato isn't undefeatable, which some people on this forum seem to forget if I have to go by with the titles of threads and answers in posts.
It's almost like Minato can win against everyone in the Naruto world and sorry, but that's something I don't believe. I've never understood the hype around Minato (who we have only seen in action a few times).
Alright I admit he's strong, but to claim he's automatically more talented than everyone one can think off...
Sorry, until there's actually proof that Minato is more talented than the Uchiha brothers, I refuse to believe that. That's just my opinion. I respect everyone's, but to say he's automatically more talented just because he has no KKG ... Nope, sorry :shrug:
Problem is that we can't say for sure that Minato is more talented because he's DEAD. For all we know, if he had been still alive and had to fight both Itachi and Sasuke, he could be defeated when the Uchiha brothers use some kind of tactic. Minato isn't undefeatable, which some people on this forum seem to forget if I have to go by with the titles of threads and answers in posts.
It's almost like Minato can win against everyone in the Naruto world and sorry, but that's something I don't believe. I've never understood the hype around Minato (who we have only seen in action a few times).
Alright I admit he's strong, but to claim he's automatically more talented than everyone one can think off...
Sorry, until there's actually proof that Minato is more talented than the Uchiha brothers, I refuse to believe that. That's just my opinion. I respect everyone's, but to say he's automatically more talented just because he has no KKG ... Nope, sorry :shrug:
He was commented on more then once by different people he was a genius
-Creating ftg and rasengan seems pretty crafty to me
-Fighting tobi and figure out his ability's and how to counter in it in a matter of seconds..
-Seeing Kakashi perform Chidori the first time and instantly seeing the downside of the technique and how to counter it without having superior eyes like the sharingan
nah he was a genius really even more so then Itachi maybe
It's actually the other way around. He can use FTG so effectively due to his incredible base speed and reflexes. Read the databook entry about FTG.
When it's a kkg that has the ability to copy moves, predict moves, and see chakra it kind of does. Minato didn't have any of those advantages like Itachi and Sasuke do yet he's still a top tier shinobi.
How is Kabuto and Sakura "Talented" DaFuq??