Minato = itachi [ intelligence ] proof

[u wanna die]

you shoudl edit your thread from time to time

im busy

 

[Itachi8179]

Itachi > Minato in battle strategy and fighting
Minato > Itachi in life "things"
Overall both genius

 

[ixc]

Itachi is overall smarter than Minato

Minato has no counter what so ever for Itachi´s Tsukuyomi let alone for some mere finger Genjutsu.

Please don´t come up with the Death Raper Seal or whatever it´s called because Itachi has the Totsukablade and Itachi is not going to stand still waiting for Minato to seal him away...

 

[u wanna die]

Itachi is overall smarter than Minato

Minato has no counter what so ever for Itachi´s Tsukuyomi let alone for some mere finger Genjutsu.

Please don´t come up with the Death Raper Seal or whatever it´s called because Itachi has the Totsukablade and Itachi is not going to stand still waiting for Minato to seal him away...

we are not talking here of fight damn ass

 

[u wanna die]

Itachi is overall smarter than Minato

Minato has no counter what so ever for Itachi´s Tsukuyomi let alone for some mere finger Genjutsu.

Please don´t come up with the Death Raper Seal or whatever it´s called because Itachi has the Totsukablade and Itachi is not going to stand still waiting for Minato to seal him away...

overall you agree?

 

[kralence]

LOL busy in making new threads?

 

[u wanna die]

LOL busy in making new threads?

LMAO with life... got my deadline this weekend

 

[kralence]

haha... but lately you are always online

 

[Lucidus]

i believe minato's and itachi's intelligence are close together i would give minato the edge as he saw tobi once and determined that it could not be madara.. where as itachi worked with tobi and still thought it was madara .. who knows itachi could have just been going along with it but who knows

 

[u wanna die]

i believe minato's and itachi's intelligence are close together i would give minato the edge as he saw tobi once and determined that it could not be madara.. where as itachi worked with tobi and still thought it was madara .. who knows itachi could have just been going along with it but who knows

if Minato switched with itachi's place in akatsuki, he'd still think tobi is Madara over the years because i think He's never actually seen or spoken to the real madara, But THE ACTIONS of tobi follow with what Madara would be doing.. even though both of them have never lived in that time.... Tobi apparently simulates Madara's image almost perfectly.. working around him or seeing him a few times for a few meetings would not change that he thinks like Madara....

 

[u wanna die]

haha... but lately you are always online

im always with my laptop.. haha... i can easily check NB

 

[kralence]

lucky you.. me i got to wait for my dad to let me use his lap top

 

[u wanna die]

lucky you.. me i got to wait for my dad to let me use his lap top

haha... buy your own

 

[kralence]

LMAO im still studying .. i got no income

 

[Lucidus]

if Minato switched with itachi's place in akatsuki, he'd still think tobi is Madara over the years because i think He's never actually seen or spoken to the real madara, But THE ACTIONS of tobi follow with what Madara would be doing.. even though both of them have never lived in that time.... Tobi apparently simulates Madara's image almost perfectly.. working around him or seeing him a few times for a few meetings would not change that he thinks like Madara....

this is true tobi perfectly mimicked madara to the point where almost everyone was fooled my point was that minato made the clear assumption that it could not be madara, even after seeing the number 1 thing that would make u think it was.. controlling the ninetails.. only madara showed to do that and yet minato still said it could not be madara...

 

[u wanna die]

LMAO im still studying .. i got no income

LOL i forgot... haha.. then stop your studies and get a work hahaha

 

[Blaze Release]

I admire you trying to solve this however if anything you have rekindled this war.
I've come to the conclusion based on those i respect (not on here obviously) and claim they are equals. Both are fan pleaser's, mary sue's. They aren't as strong as hashirama/ems madara however kishi has made their skill level nearly unrivalled, therefore whenever you pit two mary sue's against each other it never ends well.

As for Itachi thinking Obito is Madara it makes perfect sense.
Madara's hype is over 9000 in the manga and time his name has been called upon even kage level ninja's are in awe. After all "The power is in the name" - Tsunade.

However out of all these people who have been awe of madara's hype they have based this on stories and what not. The only person who could truly give a verdict on whether madara = obito is an uchiha due to their backgrounds and ill explain.

The 9 tails fox attack was believed to be a natural disaster. Minato/kushina obviously didn't because they experienced it. Later Jiraiya started to doubt this.

The MS is an extremely rare doujutsu and so far the only people we know that had activated it were:
Madara
Obito
Itachi
Sasuke
Izuna
Shisui


Shisui was confirmed dead so he would out of the question. Sasuke didn't have the ms till later on. Izuna was confirmed dead. Obito was confirmed dead. Madara was apparently dead

The uchiha know in depth their ocular power and the ability to subdue bijuu, this ability granted by the ms. So far the only uchiha who had accomplished this feat was madara.

That was the first hint to itachi believing it was madara because of his uchiha roots and in depth knowledge of what his ancestor is capable of doing, more so than anybody else outside the clan who have based his hype on stories. Minato came to a similar conclusion because of this feat. That feat alone along with the fact that during that time the known ms user's were either considered dead or had not awakened it.

The second feat which convinced itachi that it was madara is because of what tobi was able to do. Obito was able to get passed uchiha barriers and even know their meeting place. Who else would come to an uchiha's mind than their ancestor. Similarly obito bypassed konoha highest form of barrier technique, dispatched anbu and knew when best a jinchrucki's seal is at the weakest, this also made minato consider madara.

Madara being alive is something that would not surprise an uchiha because if they know enough of uchiha kinjutsu and their doujutsu powers wouldnt be far fetched for them to believe that the greatest uchiha who would know how to use either izanagi/izanami and was the first person to activate the ems therefore decrypt majority of the secrets of the sage could still be alive somehow.

To put it simple the feats that obtio demonstrated are feats that if an uchiha with great background on their ancestrey was to analyse would come to the same conclusion as obito being madara and that is a fair conclusion because obito was trained by madara. Madara poured his knowledge into obito who then was able to achieve a similar feat.

To an uchiha obito feat parallels madara's after all he was his sensei. Any other ninja outside the uchiha would not have the info to critically access whether it was madara or not because they do not know the secrets of the sharingan, merely base it on stories if anything

 

[u wanna die]

this is true tobi perfectly mimicked madara to the point where almost everyone was fooled my point was that minato made the clear assumption that it could not be madara, even after seeing the number 1 thing that would make u think it was.. controlling the ninetails.. only madara showed to do that and yet minato still said it could not be madara...

actually minato assumption it was madara.. but refuses to believe that its madara coz for him it doesnt matter he had to be stop actually its minato ways to motivate himself well that was may interpretation ..haha whats yours?

 

[u wanna die]

I admire you trying to solve this however if anything you have rekindled this war.
I've come to the conclusion based on those i respect (not on here obviously) and claim they are equals. Both are fan pleases, mary sue's. They aren't as strong as hashirama/ems madara however kishi has made their skill level nearly unrivalled, therefore whenever you pit two mary sue's against each other it never ends well.

As for Itachi thinking Obito is Madara it makes perfect sense.
Madara's hype is over 9000 in the manga and time his name has been called upon even kage level ninja's are in awe. After all "The power is in the name" - Tsunade.

However out of all these people who have been awe of madara's hype they have based this on stories and what not. The only person who could truly give a verdict on whether madara = obito is an uchiha due to their backgrounds and ill explain.

The 9 tails fox attack was believed to be a natural disaster. Minato/kushina obviously didn't because they experienced it. Later Jiraiya started to doubt this.

The MS is an extremely rare doujutsu and so far the only people we know that had activated it were:
Madara
Obito
Itachi
Sasuke
Izuna
Shisui


Shisui was confirmed dead so he would out of the question. Sasuke didn't have the ms till later on. Izuna was confirmed dead. Obito was confirmed dead. Madara was apparently dead

The uchiha know in depth their ocular power and the ability to subdue bijuu, this ability granted by the ms. So far the only uchiha who had accomplished this feat was madara.

That was the first hint to itachi believing it was madara because of his uchiha roots and in depth knowledge of what his ancestor is capable of doing, more so than anybody else outside the clan who have based his hype on stories. Minato came to a similar conclusion because of this feat. That feat alone along with the fact that during that time the known ms user's were either considered dead or had not awakened it.

The second feat which convinced itachi that it was madara is because of what tobi was able to do. Obito was able to get passed uchiha barriers and even know their meeting place. Who else would come to an uchiha's mind than their ancestor. Similarly obito bypassed konoha highest form of barrier technique, dispatched anbu and knew when best a jinchrucki's seal is at the weakest, this also made minato consider madara.

Madara being alive is something that would not surprise an uchiha because if they know enough of uchiha kinjutsu and their doujutsu powers wouldnt be far fetched for them to believe that the greatest uchiha who would know how to use either izanagi/izanami and was the first person to activate the ems therefore decrypt majority of the secrets of the sage could still be alive somehow.

To put it simple the feats that obtio demonstrated are feats that if an uchiha with great background on their ancestrey was to analyse would come to the same conclusion as obito being madara and that is a fair conclusion because obito was trained by madara. Madara poured his knowledge into obito who then was able to achieve a similar feat.

To an uchiha obito feat parallels madara's after all he was his sensei. Any other ninja outside the uchiha would not have the info to critically access whether it was madara or not because they do not know the secrets of the sharingan, merely base it on stories if anything

agreed agreed agreed... rep hahaha..

thankz

 

[kralence]

LMAO im almost done with my studies