Minato isn't stronger than EMS Madara

[DigitalMonster]

First of all if you are a Minato tard half the library get out.

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Plot induced-stupidity

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People forget about Madara catching Minato's wrist really easily and almost-warping him, but conveniently deciding to warp him slower than he was capable of despite knowing of and already witnessing Hiraishin.

A division of his power

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The entire time that he was fighting Minato, he was also controlling the Nine Tails, you know, that animal that was fighting the village, that Minato had to give his life to seal, and that his badass wife had to chain up for him.

Madara was hurried

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Controlling the Nine Tails isn't easy. Minato himself was clear that Tobi needs to kill Minato fast, and it's that hastiness that allows Minato to defeat Tobi, as well as a hell of a lot of plot protection.

Sharingan Genjutsu

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Minato, like Konan, was staring at the Sharingan, but Tobi seems to actively choose not to use Sharingan genjutsu until the endgame, like Sasuke. That's pretty much plot-induced stupidity as well.

Complete Izanagi

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Madara made one Sharingan last five minutes. That's ten minutes of Danzō-style of invincibility and teleportation. Which can be used
intermittently with intangibility, rendering Madara invincible.

Kunai Placement

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Tobi's ability conveniently played to Minato's strength as well. Could you find a better position for a Hiraishin tag other than the back of somebody's head? It's too bad Tobi didn't use that feint that he used on Torune...

Minato's Strongest

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Tobi tanked and regenerated from Minato's strongest attack in a way that Orochimaru would. So he can be intangible for five minutes, use Izanagi, buy seconds with genjutsu, teleport seal-lessly, and tank

Madara didn't have prep

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This claim annoys me. Madara strolled in, murdered all of Minato's bodyguards and nurses with Minato in the same room, marched to Konohagakure, slaughtering many shinobi, and obliterated Minato's family. Akatsuki and him could have come back the next day and taken the Fox back if not for the plot.

 

[opticsnm]

how would you know madara has never shown himself using ems

 

[DigitalMonster]

I don't understand what you are trying to argue with.

 

[blackbird31468]

what are you getting at? at first i thought you trying to give us reasons about how madara is stronger than minato, but all it seemed like you did was critisize the plot over and over again.

 

[Heracles]

Minato is not at madara,s level, madara would pwn him easily.

 

[jtolliver87]

get off madaras wing wang..point is when its all said and done he going to face a horrible death at the hands of the 4ths son

 

[psukkar]

Well minato merely fought a weakened madara. And minato admitted madara is extremly powerful shinobi and that was when he was weakened by hasihrama.


Not to mention minato speculated that the great darkness jiraiya's profocy spoke of was madara so this really a open and shut case.

Madara at his peak is far stronger than minato.

People remember madara hasnt used any sharingan tech in any of his battles in this timeline. Goes to show how good of a fighter he is without those haxxed MS techs.

"master with a stick and beat a novice with kunai" (not saying minato is novice, but theres always someone better than you. No shame in being out done by madara)

Minato did very well given the sitaution though.

 

[Talk No Jutsu]

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[jtolliver87]

you dont know what minato's capable of nor do you know what madara's capable of

 

[Naruto420]

I agree if this IS madara then he is stronger than minato,minato would havedefeated him if he had the power to do it, but he couldn't and entrusted naruto to do it when he grew up.

 

[-Vegeta-]

First of all if you are a Minato tard half the library get out.

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Plot induced-stupidity

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People forget about Madara catching Minato's wrist really easily and almost-warping him, but conveniently deciding to warp him slower than he was capable of despite knowing of and already witnessing Hiraishin.

A division of his power

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The entire time that he was fighting Minato, he was also controlling the Nine Tails, you know, that animal that was fighting the village, that Minato had to give his life to seal, and that his badass wife had to chain up for him.

Madara was hurried

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Controlling the Nine Tails isn't easy. Minato himself was clear that Tobi needs to kill Minato fast, and it's that hastiness that allows Minato to defeat Tobi, as well as a hell of a lot of plot protection.

Sharingan Genjutsu

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Minato, like Konan, was staring at the Sharingan, but Tobi seems to actively choose not to use Sharingan genjutsu until the endgame, like Sasuke. That's pretty much plot-induced stupidity as well.

Complete Izanagi

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Madara made one Sharingan last five minutes. That's ten minutes of Danzō-style of invincibility and teleportation. Which can be used
intermittently with intangibility, rendering Madara invincible.

Kunai Placement

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Tobi's ability conveniently played to Minato's strength as well. Could you find a better position for a Hiraishin tag other than the back of somebody's head? It's too bad Tobi didn't use that feint that he used on Torune...

Minato's Strongest

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Tobi tanked and regenerated from Minato's strongest attack in a way that Orochimaru would. So he can be intangible for five minutes, use Izanagi, buy seconds with genjutsu, teleport seal-lessly, and tank

Madara didn't have prep

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This claim annoys me. Madara strolled in, murdered all of Minato's bodyguards and nurses with Minato in the same room, marched to Konohagakure, slaughtering many shinobi, and obliterated Minato's family. Akatsuki and him could have come back the next day and taken the Fox back if not for the plot.

Why are you so mad? You just sound like another hater.

 

[HinataAzula]

lol u sound more like a fan boy sure a have a few good points but those points are not that powerful of points if u know what i mean. ur not giving Minato credit for the things he himself has done. how strong can u get if everyone u fight is weaker than u. Minato wasn't weaker than Madara he just had different strengths. Madara wouldn't be impressed with Minato if he though he wasn't a huge threat.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

The fact is Minato beat EMS madara/Tobi wether he would of in his prime is debatable but minato is apparently the strongest of the all the kages and Hashirama owned him badly so its not as one sided as your saying

 

[Naruto420]

Minato is not at madara,s level, madara would pwn him easily.

Madara would eventually defeat him, but not easily lol, he would be a hard shinobi to defeat and i think madara would get a seriopus injury if he fought against Minato without any involvements.

 

[HinataAzula]

you dont know what minato's capable of nor do you know what madara's capable of

i agree to that we saw like one real fight between them that doesn't really give us an overall view of the both of them so how can we really know

 

[blazekev90]

Minato isn't strong at all, he's only some fast ass dude with a basic ass offensive attack who happens to be smart. There are plenty of other shinobi who could defeat him. He couldnt defeat anyone without having to seal them, and otherwise fighting him is like a game of tag, just trying to catch him.

 

[-Vegeta-]

Minato isn't strong at all, he's only some fast ass dude with a basic ass offensive attack who happens to be smart. There are plenty of other shinobi who could defeat him. He couldnt defeat anyone without having to seal them, and otherwise fighting him is like a game of tag, just trying to catch him.

Sounds like you're another hater too. He's been praised throughout the ninja world and he's not strong? Lol yea you're definitely a hater. Your precious Orochimaru got humiliated several times throughout this manga. Itachi and Sasuke both whooped him.

 

[HinataAzula]

The fact is Minato beat EMS madara/Tobi wether he would of in his prime is debatable but minato is apparently the strongest of the all the kages and Hashirama owned him badly so its not as one sided as your saying

i also agree with this

 

[Tempest101]

It's kinda messed up though because your claim was combining techniques madara used back then and new moves that he's used recently...thats kinda biased considering that alot of the moves and stuff that madara uses he only obtained with experience...Granted Madara at his peak would have messed past minato up, bt not without taking injury. Just as Madara was focusing on controlling the nine tails, Minato was distracted by the fact that the fox was slaughtering his fellow ninja...If Minato had lived past that point in his life with the experience that Madara had...he would own Madara...So it's an unfair comparison because of the different conditions within the battles we are shown where the 2 of them are shown fighting.not nly with each other bt just generally...bt yeah...its not that easy to decide a stronger ninja

 

[Tempest101]

Minato isn't strong at all, he's only some fast ass dude with a basic ass offensive attack who happens to be smart. There are plenty of other shinobi who could defeat him. He couldnt defeat anyone without having to seal them, and otherwise fighting him is like a game of tag, just trying to catch him.

That's the point...You wouldn't be able to catch him in this game of tag...its kinda the point of the technique...