Minato is the best ninja ever to live no doubt

[Nick01]

Minato solos.

The only ones to beat him were JJ tiers.

 

[MightGai]

I like Minato but nobody compares to Gai sensei.

A man with no ninjutsu is more powerful than 99% of the NV.

Case closed.

This.

 

[kiiro]

"Has any other ninja finished a war only by fear from his enemies?"

Well, no. But Madara's name alone forced the whole world to join forces and go to war since his name is fear itself.

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Whole world fearing you > one nation fearing you

In fact, it was all the nations who had the order. Which makes Hashirama = Madara = Minato if we look at it your way.

 

[MightGai]

In fact, it was all the nations who had the order. Which makes Hashirama = Madara = Minato if we look at it your way.

gods no.

 

[kiiro]

I forgot that Madara is your favorite character, but I see tobi being better because Madara sees him as a better strategist/planner than he is. Madara with six path chakra/rinnegan was stronger though.

The reason why I said Kakashi is the best shinobi is because from Part 1 Kakashi has done some elite things with his basic ninja skills too.
1. He combined Doton with conjuring art (summoning)
2. Jonin at the same time Minato was a jonin. Minato being 24 (maybe yonger) and Kakashi being 11-13 years of age.
3. Tied a scroll to a kunai knife to survive a instant dimension travel
4. Created a lightning chakra element in the palm of his hand while changing its shape at the age of 13 years old

I know our favs are more powerful and cool but you have to admit that kakashi acted like a real shinobi.

Minato was 23 and Kakashi 13.

 

[kiiro]

That had their orders to retreat if they met the eight tailed jinchuuriki. Minato was the leader for that group so he knew his orders and retreated.

The silbe was from behind. And no where is said they retreated for seeing Bee.

 

[Jiren]

He's aight. Top tier

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

The silbe was from behind. And no where is said they retreated for seeing Bee.

They literally said that it's the eight tails, retreat. So they retreated after confirming that it was Bee, it was a Kiba clan member that had to tell minato that they needed to invoke the retreat signal. Minato isn't the only one there's many other shinobis out there with this kind of reputation Sakumo being one of them.

 

[kiiro]

I don't want to disrespect or discredit Minato here. He was feared by the Stone Village and well known in the cloud village. But based on the original point that Minato's name ended a war between villages thus making him the best ninja there is - I think it would be Only fair to add Madara in the list too since his name alone started a world war.

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It was everyone. I did not find from the sand.

 

[kiiro]

They literally said that it's the eight tails, retreat. So they retreated after confirming that it was Bee. Minato isn't the only one there's many other shinobis out there with this kind of reputation Sakumo being one of them.

Yes, the signal was after they saw Bee, but not because him. The signal came from behind from people that was not even in the fight. It was a signal to retreat for reasons we dont know. No databook or other page from the manga suggest this. Also, Sakumo also doesnt have that order.

Do you know how freaky scary was Minato? Or how dangerous was to engage him?

The worst is not to die, the worst is when he leaves you alive. He can then enter and go out of your vilage any time and even maybe slaughter your family.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Yes, the signal was after they saw Bee, but not because him. The signal came from behind from people that was not even in the fight. It was a signal to retreat for reasons we dont know. No databook or other page from the manga suggest this. Also, Sakumo also doesnt have that order.

The guy sending the signal did it by mouth, of course he was there around the vicinity so clearly they're retreating because of Bee because they said nothing when Ay was fighting Minato. White fangs order is way greater than anything Minato had to offer, he was said to be greater than the prodigal three which minato is not and his name put fear into the stone shinobi's hearts when they thought Kakashi is White Fang.
You can believe it or not but given the fact that you're a minato fan you would disagree.

Do you know how freaky scary was Minato? Or how dangerous was to engage him?

He's really not that scary and he wasn't dangerous enough for a 14 year old tobi. Scary people are people like Orochimaru, Madara, and Sakumo.

The worst is not to die, the worst is when he leaves you alive. He can then enter and go out of your vilage any time and even maybe slaughter your family.

Now you're taking your imagination too far because this is false.

 

[kiiro]

The guy sending the signal did it by mouth, of course he was there around the vicinity so clearly they're retreating because of Bee because they said nothing when Ay was fighting Minato. White fangs order is way greater than anything Minato had to offer, he was said to be greater than the prodigal three which minato is not and his name put fear into the stone shinobi's hearts when they thought Kakashi is White Fang.
You can believe it or not but given the fact that you're a minato fan you would disagree.

Who did it?

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And by the way, Minato was the one who hyped Sakumo saying he is better than the sannin but never said together.

He's really not that scary and he wasn't dangerous enough for a 14 year old tobi. Scary people are people like Orochimaru, Madara, and Sakumo.

Wow, to scary that that Obito even confronted Madara and not human Madara but Jinchuriki Madara. To scary that a kid of 13 years took Orochimaru's hand.

Now you're taking your imagination too far because this is false.

It is my imagination, but being sincere, isnt it possible? One of the reasons.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Who did it?

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And by the way, Minato was the one who hyped Sakumo saying he is better than the sannin but never said together.

He's around the vicinity because he did it by mouth like I said before but I don't know who said it. Sakumo's hype was in the databook and the fact that Minato hyped up Sakumo that much validates that even he knows that Sakumo surpassed him greatly.

Wow, to scary that that Obito even confronted Madara and not human Madara but Jinchuriki Madara. To scary that a kid of 13 years took Orochimaru's hand.

Tobi/Obito has six path powers, why the hell would he be scared of anybody? Tobi as a kid wasn't scared of minato and he ripped the kyubi right out of his wife while threatening his son's life right in front of his face at the age of 14. You think Minato did any better? He got the whole leaf village as back up along with prime hiruzen to take care of his summoning. So wow, there is a huge difference. Even Obito (mind controlled) fought Minato and Kakashi at the same time in the war, neither of them where able to beat him let alone touch him
Itachi saved the whole 4th war and he was asked to spy on akatsuki alone, you act like Minato could survive against a 13 year old Uchiha if he wasn't able to before?
Look, I don't want to character bash but you're comparing Minato to people that are way stronger than him. I mean Madara? Seriously? Even Hashirama fanboys will come out you for that one.

It is my imagination, but being sincere, isnt it possible? One of the reasons.

He's not going back to enemy territory to slaughter a whole family, he'd get killed inside of the village because he's out numbered and out powered.
And if you know that you are marked, all you need to do is remove it. Obito removed the mark and so did Killerbee since Minato needed to use a kunai knife to intercept a jyubi bomb that Hachibi was in front of.

 

[Uverdore9]

Lol. Ridiculous. Minato got killed almost by bee whose attack speed trumped former you can see the blade closer to his belly than minato's knife was closer to his head. Minato couldn't dodge anything without Flying thunder god. I gotta say he's weak despite his hype. People praise him for speed with zero speed feat. All flying thunder god BS. The only reason he was called unparalleled because he's the only one who had the flying thunder god technique which's mark don't disappear no matter what and more versatility in his use than Second's. OP taking things out of context. He wasn't that much of a genius even he's a just a decade-only shinobi Orochimaru was a decades-only shinobi. Itachi was the greatest genius ever seen in the Ninja World according to Academy teacher, Hiruzen(who's called the most intellectual fire shadow and most powerful and greatest shinobi of all time), Sasuke was greater genius than Minato from fact Orochimaru thought he paled in comparison to former when he's his age. Fake hype. Flee on sight order Lmfao. Itachi controlled 80,000 shinobi without thier knowledge so there was no one to issue flee on sight order any way. Lmfao.

 

[Oblivionx]

He's around the vicinity because he did it by mouth like I said before but I don't know who said it. Sakumo's hype was in the databook and the fact that Minato hyped up Sakumo that much validates that even he knows that Sakumo surpassed him greatly.


Tobi/Obito has six path powers, why the hell would he be scared of anybody? Tobi as a kid wasn't scared of minato and he ripped the kyubi right out of his wife while threatening his son's life right in front of his face at the age of 14. You think Minato did any better? He got the whole leaf village as back up along with prime hiruzen to take care of his summoning. So wow, there is a huge difference. Even Obito (mind controlled) fought Minato and Kakashi at the same time in the war, neither of them where able to beat him let alone touch him
Itachi saved the whole 4th war and he was asked to spy on akatsuki alone, you act like Minato could survive against a 13 year old Uchiha if he wasn't able to before?
Look, I don't want to character bash but you're comparing Minato to people that are way stronger than him. I mean Madara? Seriously? Even Hashirama fanboys will come out you for that one.

He's not going back to enemy territory to slaughter a whole family, he'd get killed inside of the village because he's out numbered and out powered.
And if you know that you are marked, all you need to do is remove it. Obito removed the mark and so did Killerbee since Minato needed to use a kunai knife to intercept a jyubi bomb that Hachibi was in front of.

You are being biased here though. Obito was strong. You are making it out like 14 year old obito was a kid. He was strong enough not to be scared of anyone. Heck he was stronger than anyone around other than minato. And he didn't know minato's full strength i.e ftg lvl 2. Neither did he know about mark never disappearing. To top it off he had intel on everything while minato didn't know anything. He even said in war if he knew tobi was obito, he would have stopped him.

2ndly you made it about strength when it is about reputation. Strength isn't everything for a ninja if we are talking about true ninjas. For example itachi and kakashi (single sharingan). They are two of the best ninjas but they are not strongest. Same is case with sukomto that you have been mentioning or sannin. But none of these guys trump minato's reputation. Only madara rivals that and may be hashirama.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I like Minato but nobody compares to Gai sensei.

A man with no ninjutsu is more powerful than 99% of the NV.

Case closed.

At the cost of dying

 

[Sof6p]

Iwagakure

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That was only an order for the rock ninja.

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There's no mention of being told to flee here, the only thing conclusive is some cloud ninja didn't want to fight.

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I don't see any mention of a flee on sight order.

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It was everyone. I did not find from the sand.

Madara's statement is being used out of context by you, he wanted to manipulate Obito.

Minato's hype isn't much past killing fodder ninja in a war utilising the FTG. The context of his reputation is in relation to fodder ninja so they would have to flee to live,not because he beat top tier ninja. That doesn't mean he wasn't a skilled ninja it would take skill to learn FTG.

Is he the best ninja to ever live? Not even close.

 

[Uverdore9]

You are being biased here though. Obito was strong. You are making it out like 14 year old obito was a kid. He was strong enough not to be scared of anyone. Heck he was stronger than anyone around other than minato. And he didn't know minato's full strength i.e ftg lvl 2. Neither did he know about mark never disappearing. To top it off he had intel on everything while minato didn't know anything. He even said in war if he knew tobi was obito, he would have stopped him.

2ndly you made it about strength when it is about reputation. Strength isn't everything for a ninja if we are talking about true ninjas. For example itachi and kakashi (single sharingan). They are two of the best ninjas but they are not strongest. Same is case with sukomto that you have been mentioning or sannin. But none of these guys trump minato's reputation. Only madara rivals that and may be hashirama.

Itachi being the biggest prodigy of the leaf doesn't tarnish Minato's reputation sure.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

You are being biased here though. Obito was strong. You are making it out like 14 year old obito was a kid. He was strong enough not to be scared of anyone. Heck he was stronger than anyone around other than minato. And he didn't know minato's full strength i.e ftg lvl 2. Neither did he know about mark never disappearing. To top it off he had intel on everything while minato didn't know anything. He even said in war if he knew tobi was obito, he would have stopped him.

Let’s just stop right there because you’re bias is taking this to another level. You’re missing the context of my point here, kiro beloved that Minato is the only one that puts fear into people’s hearts while disregarding that there are other shinobis out there that can do the same. I specifically said I wasn’t character bashing that this is scenario picking. He was down playing madara’s hype by using Obito while praising minato’s. The doesn’t work if Obito already killed him.
So I’m recognizing minato’s strength but he has to dignify others like killerbee or Sakumo who can do the same.

As for Tobi vs Minato I know you’re bias towards Minato but facts are facts that he was way stronger than him. Minato has help from Hiruzen that’s a fact. And even when Tobi lacked that knowledge because of premature death, Minato still lacked knowledge of his other arsenal as well. Let him use wood style, let him use Gedo arts and you’d be singing a different story now.
Also 14 years old is a kid, do you know the difference in age between a 14 year old and a 25 year old?
That’s a child fighting an adult, Naruto was around 14 years old when he fought Sasuke in part 1 and he was still called a stupid little kid by Jiraiya. Come on seriously.

2ndly you made it about strength when it is about reputation. Strength isn't everything for a ninja if we are talking about true ninjas. For example itachi and kakashi (single sharingan). They are two of the best ninjas but they are not strongest. Same is case with sukomto that you have been mentioning or sannin. But none of these guys trump minato's reputation. Only madara rivals that and may be hashirama.

Strength comes with reputation for all those people you listed there have great strength especially Itachi. Sakumo’s hype greatly surpasses Minato that it’s not even funny. Sakumo’s hype surpassed the prodigal 3 which is known everywhere to the point that even people who weren’t shinobis knew. Ask Nagato who Minato was and he wouldn’t even know.
Never compare Madara and Hashirama’s hype to Minato’s that’s just silly. I don’t even like those two and I’d never compare my favs to Hashirama or madara’s hype.

 

[Uverdore9]

Let’s just stop right there because you’re bias is taking this to another level. You’re missing the context of my point here, kiro beloved that Minato is the only one that puts fear into people’s hearts while disregarding that there are other shinobis out there that can do the same. I specifically said I wasn’t character bashing that this is scenario picking. He was down playing madara’s hype by using Obito while praising minato’s. The doesn’t work if Obito already killed him.
So I’m recognizing minato’s strength but he has to dignify others like killerbee or Sakumo who can do the same.

As for Tobi vs Minato I know you’re bias towards Minato but facts are facts that he was way stronger than him. Minato has help from Hiruzen that’s a fact. And even when Tobi lacked that knowledge because of premature death, Minato still lacked knowledge of his other arsenal as well. Let him use wood style, let him use Gedo arts and you’d be singing a different story now.
Also 14 years old is a kid, do you know the difference in age between a 14 year old and a 25 year old?
That’s a child fighting an adult, Naruto was around 14 years old when he fought Sasuke in part 1 and he was still called a stupid little kid by Jiraiya. Come on seriously.

Strength comes with reputation for all those people you listed there have great strength especially Itachi. Sakumo’s hype greatly surpasses Minato that it’s not even funny. Sakumo’s hype surpassed the prodigal 3 which is known everywhere to the point that even people who weren’t shinobis knew. Ask Nagato who Minato was and he wouldn’t even know.
Never compare Madara and Hashirama’s hype to Minato’s that’s just silly. I don’t even like those two and I’d never compare my favs to Hashirama or madara’s hype.

NB's gone too deep comparing Sakumo a legend with Minato. Gotta be kidding people.