Minato is simply Nagatos worse opponent

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Actually Tobi is, even when he only had his MS and no rinnegan.
 

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You need to read the manga properly im not wasting my energy on you.If you cant see Nagato flying in the manga page then thats your problem

If you cant read the manga properly showing Nagato thinking back to Jiraya and how he was back when he was a kid thats your problem

If you think Gambuta can jump as high as Nagato can fly and win like that its your problem

If you think Nagato jumped in the air and just stayed there randomly then thats your problem

Its your problem if your a Minato tard if you cant see obvious things in front of you im not wasting my energy on you.Your the ultimate fanboy the manga is wrong and your right



Read the manga...properly

Hopping of Nagatos nuts huh original

You need to read the manga properly, because if you did you would see every time that scene came up someone was reading Jiraiya's book, did you even read the scan I put up cause if you did you wouldn't have replied with that stupid answer of yours.
 

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You need to read the manga properly, because if you did you would see every time that scene came up someone was reading Jiraiya's book, did you even read the scan I put up cause if you did you wouldn't have replied with that stupid answer of yours.

Listen right you need to stop calling others stupid when you cant even read a manga page properly :rolleyes:

Ive dedicated a thread to you and your erm intelligent answers heres the link

Hope you have fun
 

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Listen right you need to stop calling others stupid when you cant even read a manga page properly :rolleyes:

Ive dedicated a thread to you and your erm intelligent answers heres the link

Hope you have fun

I feel so special, but do you read when someone replies or you blinded by your love for Nagato, that you can't see EVERYTIME someone picked up that book the same scene comes after it.
 
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Deva was in the air for at least a minute how is that not flying?
 

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How sad loool im drained at the moment so ill just post manga pages at you and see if you can understand is Nagato jumping really high here as well?

Hes being controlled as well at this point

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Where do you see Nagato flying on your pic? Can you tell me? I only see Nagato on his invisible animal then he jumps on the floor where Bee tries to land a critical hit on him
 

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I somewhat see where your coming from, but the thing is when Minato gets close after Shinra Tensei he can activate another path almost instantaneously. By the time Minato try's to get away from Nagato he can rip Minato's soul.
 

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I somewhat see where your coming from, but the thing is when Minato gets close after Shinra Tensei he can activate another path almost instantaneously. By the time Minato try's to get away from Nagato he can rip Minato's soul.
Maybe but to rip Minatos soul, he must manage to catch him by using Asura Path most likely like against Bee or a summoning jutsu like against Naruto, which would most likely never happen against Minato since capturing him is nearly impossible. Even if you grab him, he can teleport somewhere else instantly like i've shown on my pics, especially when we take into consideration the fact that Nagato can't even walk on his own very well, and he is fighting against one of the fastest if not the fastest ninjas in NV
 

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I feel so special, but do you read when someone replies or you blinded by your love for Nagato, that you can't see EVERYTIME someone picked up that book the same scene comes after it.
Right im fine now so here goes

Jirayas story was inspired by Nagato
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Now unless you have any direct evidence that Nagato did not have that experience then your just assuming.Possibly Jiraya thought of something Nagato had told him anyway direct evidence or your assuming the story didnt come from a experience of Nagato which Jiraya remembered as he was speaking to him

Direct clear evidence or your wrong
Where do you see Nagato flying on your pic? Can you tell me? I only see Nagato on his invisible animal then he jumps on the floor where Bee tries to land a critical hit on him

Ok well i think were done here the chameleon is taller then the surrounding trees by like a mile cool
 
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Right im fine now so here goes

Jirayas story was inspired by Nagato
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Now unless you have any direct evidence that Nagato did not have that experience then your just assuming.Possibly Jiraya thought of something Nagato had told him anyway direct evidence or your assuming the story didnt come from a experience of Nagato which Jiraya remembered as he was speaking to him

Direct clear evidence or your wrong

First of all that wasn't a flashback of Jiraiya's, as you can see Nagato starts talking to Jiraiya and then it shows Yahiko crying because Jiraiya left after he finished training them

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Then Nagato picks up the book and the scene from the book occurs, as you see in these two scans.

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And don't say it was a flashback because Naruto had the same exact scene when he was reading Jiraiya's book:

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How could it have been Nagato's experience when he was in his original Akatsuki cloak with his Rain headband, when they didn't don that attire till after Jiraiya went back to the Leaf, so Jiraiya couldn't have known that happened to Nagato.
 

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Nagato isn't flying around like Onoki but can still levitate very well with Deva Path. Asura Path gives him also a rocket boost.
 

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First of all that wasn't a flashback of Jiraiya's, as you can see Nagato starts talking to Jiraiya and then it shows Yahiko crying because Jiraiya left after he finished training them

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Then Nagato picks up the book and the scene from the book occurs, as you see in these two scans.

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And don't say it was a flashback because Naruto had the same exact scene when he was reading Jiraiya's book:

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How could it have been Nagato's experience when he was in his original Akatsuki cloak with his Rain headband, when they didn't don that attire till after Jiraiya went back to the Leaf, so Jiraiya couldn't have known that happened to Nagato.

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Your continently missing out the fact that Jiraya said thanks to you i have a good idea before all of this happened perhaps Jiraya was inspired by a earlier story and remember this just makes your whole theory and thats what it is a theory as there is no solid evidence simply your opinion anyway it was a trick question because you cant have solid clear evidence for it
 

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Your continently missing out the fact that Jiraya said thanks to you i have a good idea before all of this happened perhaps Jiraya was inspired by a earlier story and remember this just makes your whole theory and thats what it is a theory as there is no solid evidence simply your opinion anyway it was a trick question because you cant have solid clear evidence for it

Thats because of the conversation they had here:
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Thats the idea he got from Nagato, what Nagato said is the main idea of the book, breaking the curse.
 

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Thats because of the conversation they had here:
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Thats the idea he got from Nagato, what Nagato said is the main idea of the book, breaking the curse.

Still waiting on that solid proof that the inspiration wasn't from Nagatos experience and not your speculations

Think about it please
 

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I am too lazy to copy FizzyDrink's logic with s/t barrier. That shit is way OP and certainly beats Nagato U_U

Well thank you :blush:

But now I'm embarrassed, because I'm going to take Nagato's side on this.

To begin with, Nagato based on what we know about Minato's attacks cannot be injured by anything Minato has. All chakra based attacks (Gama's water canon, rasengan) will certainly be absorbed by preta path. All physical attacks such as kunai will not do enough damage to kill Nagato due to Asura path, which is seemingly indestructible and allows him to repair himself. We also do not know if Nagato himself has a shorter time interval between using shinra tensei, seeing as how all of the paths in 1 body were far more powerful. One can assume that the interval between using Deva path is shorter. So shinra tensei would be more efficient and more powerful. Still, Minato is fast and smart enough to shoot the gap, but that brings us back to the first point I made, namely, what does Minato have that can actually hurt Nagato? The only thing I can think of is the Frog Song, and Nagato knows all about that. All he has to do is disrupt it with by blowing away the vibrations of the song, which can easily be done by Shinra Tensei. So the Frog song isn't a problem either.

But on the other hand, Nagato himself also has very few ways to defeat Minato. Asura path can be avoided easily, and the missiles could be shot back at Nagato, only to be shinra tensei'd away. Animal path won't do much more than to keep Minato's summons occupied. Bansho Tenin and Shinra tensei wouldn't work in the form of an attack, because Minato could teleport elsewhere without harm. However, they COULD be useful in a counter (particularly shinra tensei). If Nagato allows one of Minato's kunai to get close, he can wait for Minato to teleport to it and then use Shinra tensei when Minato isn't expecting a counter. It's a possible strategy. Nagato also CAN fly, or at least levitate. He did this right before he used Chou Shinra Tensei, and if you look at the picture, there are no movement lines meaning he isn't falling. This will certianly give him an advantage, as the only way Minato could reach Nagato is through FTG lvl 2, which Nagato could Shinra Tensei away.

Now, what I think seals the deal for Nagato is his 2 major attacks. Chou Shinra tensei cannot be avoided by Minato. It's a massive gravitational push coming from all sides of Nagato, which means there's no way to get behind it. All of Minato's kunai would be blown to impossibly far distances, and so Minato himself would have nowhere to go (without forfeiting the battle). And then there's CT, which would in my opinion win it for Nagato. The argument against this is Minato using his S/T barrier to send it far away, but this would not work because the S/T barrier is in effect a shield. As far as we know, the barrier can only be summoned in front of himself, and it is stationary, so it only stops moving projectiles. This means that when Nagato throws CT's core UP, Minato's only chance to stop it is to place the barrier in front of it before it becomes stationary. And since we cannot assume that he can create a barrier anywhere, Minato wouldn't be able to send CT away unless it's thrown AT him. Also, Minato does not know about CT, so he would in fact watch to see what happens, and by the time he understands its properties, it would be stationary. He has no way of destroying the core, and he and ALL of his Kunai would be sucked into it, including himself, so he has no way to escape either. CT in effect should be the deciding factor here.

So all in all, I must side with Nagato on this one, although it would a very close battle considering Minato's genius. I say Nagato wins 55-60/100 times.

Of course, if someone comes up with a good counter, I would change my view unless I can come up with a counter-counter (that sounds funny xd)
 

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Still waiting on that solid proof that the inspiration wasn't from Nagatos experience and not your speculations

Think about it please

Jiraiya and Nagato have their conversation where Nagato talks about peace then Jiraiya says thanks to you I have a good idea.

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This shows that the idea for Jiraiya's book came from this conversation and not one of Nagato's past experiences, If it came form before why would he now just realize the idea as shown by the exclamation point after hearing Nagatos words, and he said a good idea for the story which is about breaking the curse.
 

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it goes both way (no pun intended) both minato and nagato would be anyone's worse opponent.
 

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Chibaku Tensei will suck Minato in and he will be forced to teleport away which will be no use since all his thrown Kunai with FTG tags will be brought to the center of Chibaku Tensei teleporting him to the center. There he will be crushed by rocks..
 
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