Minato is really really fast (without FTG) .. And FTG is INSTANT

[Avinash012]

We already know that, minato is fast without hiraishin though there are noticeable people faster.
However they do something extra other than the basic shunshin, which makes them faster.

Hiraishin is instant somewhat as even genma and raido along with mei got to the location of madara instantly.
However tobirama's stating the use of the kage bunshin slows it down is vague but who knows.

Finally minato used hiraishin to appear in front of obito and not shunshin

Nah it is obviously Shunshin and After Observing Speed of Obito's defence Minato and Tobirama predected that if they use thire combined attack with clone's then it wil be slow and there is a chance for Obito to escape that attack ,considering the fact that Obito escaped the attack of Tobirama's clone with his defence....that's y they used thire original Bodie's to attack since it isn't a probulem even if Obito attack them....

 

[PYROVT]

So you suggest that he just went on KCM for his clothes to match better with his hair?? Also, there's nothing that suggests that KCM isn't automatic. When Naruto gave out the cloaks the alliance's power was enhanced from the second they were surrounded by them. But somehow now, you imply that Minato's stats and skills aren't affected by the fact that he went on KCM?? I don't find any logic to that statement.


u see when other people got kyuubi chakra they mainly used it with some move or other

lee managed to improve his thaijutsu/if not speed

but we will nevr know coz there was not any proof of what u say ( though it doesnot mean that it was false - but kishi would have surely said something ) , from what we have seen minato's shunshin is quite capable of doing what minato did there , hence nothing was told at this point it is better to consider it a shunshin feat and wait to see if kcm was invlolved instead of jumping to predictions

 

[Avinash012]

So you suggest that he just went on KCM for his clothes to match better with his hair?? Also, there's nothing that suggests that KCM isn't automatic. When Naruto gave out the cloaks the alliance's power was enhanced from the second they were surrounded by them. But somehow now, you imply that Minato's stats and skills aren't affected by the fact that he went on KCM?? I don't find any logic to that statement.


As far as we've seen, Yin is related with the spiritual power.
2nd Mizukage said that Yin release, is based on the spiritual energy that governs the imagination, can be used to create form out of nothingness. Generally, Yin is related to genjutsu.
Based on the spiritual energy thingy, we can assume that Yin chakra is enhancing the chakra of the user (making it stronger, easier to manipulate more adaptable to other chakra's etc). Most ninjas use chakra to enhance their speed, so I don't see why Yin KCM wouldn't affect Minato's speed.

If so it should be Minato who got enhanced speed not Naruto since it only changes his physical strength and life force...

Having strong chakra dosen't mean that u can move faster and by ur nic explination about Yin it is obvious that thire abilities after KCM are different from each other.....

 

[kunde]

minato has not shown one feat using cloak ( other basers believe he used cloak to tank the combo ) yet u deny his natural speed and make him look like a person who needs powerups

too sad bro , u can simply not accept the truth

Since minato is using KCM, whatever he does would be by using Kurama's chakra. .it gives him massive increase in base speed. .he's using KCM right there and yet how can you say he did not use Kurama's chakra? . .

 

[Avinash012]

Minato is fast without FTG
and FTG cannot be slower than FTG seeing as some ppl in narutobase still believe so

now if you can stop trying to be ''clever'', I'd app it

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If FTG=FTG then it should be equal to normal FTG even if it is clone ...isn't it...?

 

[kunde]

So you suggest that he just went on KCM for his clothes to match better with his hair?? Also, there's nothing that suggests that KCM isn't automatic. When Naruto gave out the cloaks the alliance's power was enhanced from the second they were surrounded by them. But somehow now, you imply that Minato's stats and skills aren't affected by the fact that he went on KCM?? I don't find any logic to that statement.


u see when other people got kyuubi chakra they mainly used it with some move or other

lee managed to improve his thaijutsu/if not speed

but we will nevr know coz there was not any proof of what u say ( though it doesnot mean that it was false - but kishi would have surely said something ) , from what we have seen minato's shunshin is quite capable of doing what minato did there , hence nothing was told at this point it is better to consider it a shunshin feat and wait to see if kcm was invlolved instead of jumping to predictions

Lol, then why is he using KCM?.. .for showoff?? . .get real bro. .isn't it obvious that KCM increased his base speed. .naruto doesn't hav FTG still he surpassed Ay with the help of Kurama's chakra. .need anything more to say???

 

[Avinash012]

Since minato is using KCM, whatever he does would be by using Kurama's chakra. .it gives him massive increase in base speed. .he's using KCM right there and yet how can you say he did not use Kurama's chakra? . .

Minato's KCM is different from Naruto's

Naruto : Yang

Minato:yin

It proves that thire abilities after KCM are differs form each other....!

 

[Blaze Release]

in the last chapter he used shunshin NOT Hiraishin

The last chapter, i am not sure.
Thought you meant when he appeared in front of naru/sas

Nah it is obviously Shunshin and After Observing Speed of Obito's defence Minato and Tobirama predected that if they use thire combined attack with clone's then it wil be slow and there is a chance for Obito to escape that attack ,considering the fact that Obito escaped the attack of Tobirama's clone with his defence....that's y they used thire original Bodie's to attack since it isn't a probulem even if Obito attack them....

Yh, the use of the clone is what i am wondering.

As for appearing infront of naru/saku their expression and that of obito hints towards it being hiraishin.
It was to be the start of the Mawashi technique, where Tobirama was the first to teleport, but rather behind obito

Wiki while not acknowledging them as fool proof state something similar

"Teleporting himself in front of Naruto and Sasuke's attack and with Tobirama at Obito's location, the two Hokage use the Mutually Instantaneous Revolving Technique to switch places causing Obito to be struck by an attack that had struck Minato earlier. With this, the jinchūriki's body is set ablaze by the flames."

 

[kunde]

Minato's KCM is different from Naruto's

Naruto : Yang

Minato:yin

It proves that thire abilities after KCM are differs form each other....!

Do you hav any proof to say that Minato is using yin half of Kurama?. .no it's just an assumption in NB. .he has half of kurama's chakra thats all. .it's never stated in manga that he has Yin half of kurama's chakra. .

 

[Tobby17]

Nah see this ..

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If FTG=FTG then it should be equal to normal FTG even if it is clone ...isn't it...?

read the magastream translation. it says ''using FTG with clones won't cut it'' not ''it will be slower''

btw Tobirama used FTG with a clone at the beginning and it didn't look slow to me

 

[Avinash012]

Lol, then why is he using KCM?.. .for showoff?? . .get real bro. .isn't it obvious that KCM increased his base speed. .naruto doesn't hav FTG still he surpassed Ay with the help of Kurama's chakra. .need anything more to say???

Minato's speed is instantanious even without FTG ,Minato savng Naruto from Obito is a good example....It's speed is same as FTG but limited distence.....

If u find smthng faster than instant to enhance Minato's speed then come again...

 

[Tobby17]

The last chapter, i am not sure.
Thought you meant when he appeared in front of naru/sas

yes that's what I mean..lol. He uses shunshin not Hiraishin.. Minato had no seal there, there is no way he used Hirashin

 

[Avinash012]

read the magastream translation. it says ''using FTG with clones won't cut it'' not ''it will be slower''

btw Tobirama used FTG with a clone at the beginning and it didn't look slow to me

Tel me the meaning of won't cut it (regarding that sittuation)........!

ur denyng Manga fact....................

 

[Tobby17]

Minato's speed is instantanious even without FTG ,Minato savng Naruto from Obito is a good example....It's speed is same as FTG but limited distence.....

If u find smthng faster than instant to enhance Minato's speed then come again...

I wouldn't go as far as saying Minato's base speed is instantaneous, but it's really impressive

 

[Fireplay]

Minato being fast is already a known fact.

Like the time when he blitzed Obito and grabbed baby Naruto.

 

[Tobby17]

Tel me the meaning of won't cut it (regarding that sittuation)........!

ur denyng Manga fact....................

maybe because if a clone gets hit by the combined attack, it will ''poof''? and they won't be able to use the technique?

if you see Minato's reply, he said ''with a body like this it won't matter''..

 

[kunde]

Minato's speed is instantanious even without FTG ,Minato savng Naruto from Obito is a good example....It's speed is same as FTG but limited distence.....

If u find smthng faster than instant to enhance Minato's speed then come again...

i don't really understand y u guys are saying that minato is not using KCM to move faster. .then tel me why is he using KCM. .ever since that barrier incident he's using KCM. .saying he's not using kurama's chakra when it clearly apperas that he's using KCM is absurd

 

[Aertes]

Lol, then why is he using KCM?.. .for showoff?? . .get real bro. .isn't it obvious that KCM increased his base speed. .naruto doesn't hav FTG still he surpassed Ay with the help of Kurama's chakra. .need anything more to say???

How did you manage to screw up so much my comment and add other people comments to the quote and seem like I said that, it's a wonder

 

[Blaze Release]

yes that's what I mean..lol. He uses shunshin not Hiraishin.. Minato had no seal there, there is no way he used Hirashin

Dued it isn't shunshin.

Wiki, again explains it rather clearly.

Also you forget one unique detail when you say minato had no seal there.

Minato and Tobirama both tagged each other
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Tobirama was the first to appear behind obito because he has a tag on Obito.
But since Tobirama has now appeared at that destination he also carried the tag that minato used on him, therefore minato also had a tag there via Tobirama

 

[kunde]

How did you manage to screw up so much my comment and add other people comments to the quote and seem like I said that, it's a wonder

It wasn't me :NO:. .someone didn't clearly quote your reply it appears and i kept quoting . .hence d confusion :dunno: