Minato is better than Itachi

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Itachi > Minato
 

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Obito was his mentor/teacher U_U So in a way their relationship was like Naruto-Kakashi or Sasuke-Kakashi to say the least.

Just saying...

Eh no, for all you know he said what he said that day to make tobi look like a villain, so that sasukie not only wouldn't trust him, but also go kill him..

Why in the world and universe would tobi teach itachi? aka the man he wanted dead?

The very fact that itachi didn't know tobi could slip into the other realm just shows that they have never fought or sparred on a level enough for him to use the ability..if they even fought at all

Something that also proves itachi was lying .. in the viz he said "comrade and mentor"
Obito is far from both to itachi
 
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Eh no, for all you know he said what he said that day to make tobi look like a villain, so that sasukie not only wouldn't trust him, but also go kill him..

Why in the world and universe would tobi teach itachi? aka the man he wanted dead?

I have heard Itachi say he was taught by Madara
 

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Eh no, for all you know he said what he said that day to make tobi look like a villain, so that sasukie not only wouldn't trust him, but also go kill him..

Why in the world and universe would tobi teach itachi? aka the man he wanted dead?

The very fact that itachi didn't know tobi could slip into the other realm just shows that they have never fought or sparred on a level enough for him to use the ability

Pure speculation on your part. There's no way they went on a S Ranked mission with zero teamwork. Fact is Tobi trained him U_U

Also there's no need for Tobi to use Intangibility and show off while training with Itachi U_U Jiraya never even mentioned SM to Naruto and their relationship was the closest.
 

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Mintao killed himself over a would-be prophecy, and Itachi became a common cog in Danzo's schemes for amassing bag full of Sharingans. Can we agree that both of them weren't that intelligent as this fanbase believes them to be? They seem quite asinine to me, especially Minato who killed himself because the prophecy could be true. What?

Anyhow, none of the fans will agree with the other and this will only escalate into a flame war. I suggest this thread should be closed.

Fail...
this is dragon rage.

Damn it...you beat me to it. :(
 

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lets be honest here

Itachi knew Tobi for years & was keeping a close eye on him ever since day one
but still even he didnt knew about Tobi's secrets & even after all the research all he came with was planting amaterasu in sasuke's eyes to kill tobi
but as we all know that plan was epic fail
Obito outsmarted itachi in a way

Now lets see minato just started to fight an unknown guy (obito)
Learns what type of jutsu he uses in 30 seconds
find weakness in his jutsu in like 1 min
beats him under 2 min without making eye contact with Obito

also other thing is Itachi admitted that he was wrong not trusting sasuke.
while on the other hand minato had faith in his new born child.

so brain & trust wise minato was better than itachi.

Minato didnt do much to beat Tobi...
they both only used essentially one jutsu...both of them....over and over...
When Itachi knew Obito he thought he was his elder Uchiha..
but Minato is capable of beating Itachi before Itachi could beat him..
but doesnt mean he is superior........
i dont think Kishi will make an episode saying through Itachi that Minato is better than himself
 

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lets be honest here

Itachi knew Tobi for years & was keeping a close eye on him ever since day one
but still even he didnt knew about Tobi's secrets & even after all the research all he came with was planting amaterasu in sasuke's eyes to kill tobi
but as we all know that plan was epic fail
Obito outsmarted itachi in a way

Now lets see minato just started to fight an unknown guy (obito)
Learns what type of jutsu he uses in 30 seconds
find weakness in his jutsu in like 1 min
beats him under 2 min without making eye contact with Obito

also other thing is Itachi admitted that he was wrong not trusting sasuke.
while on the other hand minato had faith in his new born child.

so brain & trust wise minato was better than itachi.


This is the perfect example if making something out of absolutely NOTHING.

You say that he planted an Amaterasu in sasuke to kill tobi and it was an epic fail. But he never thought tobi would go after Sasuke, as far as he was concerned he wasnt interested in him. He only planted Amaterasu in Sasuke as a contengency plan in case he did see Sasuke, also it is impossible to extinguish Amaterasu's flame, so how would Itachi have known that he would be able to do it. The only alternative would be for him to confront Tobi, reveal he is really a Konoha Spy which would have ruined his cover story and then attempt to kill Tobi... There was no reason for him to do this since 1) He didnt know Tobi would go after Sasuke and 2) He didnt know that Tobi knew his back story. I dont see how Obito outsmarted Itachi... all he did was survive. If you can call surviving outsmarting then Idk what to tell you.

Now based on 1 fight with Obito you judge that Minato is smarter than itachi? I dont even see how you logically made that jump. Itachi trusted the village to keep the secret of the Uchiha which they did so doesnt that make him even with Minato? You pick and chose 2 baised situations, one that makes Itachi look bad and the other that makes minato look good and based on that you say that minato is better than Itachi.....utter nonsense.
 

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**** this thread. Shino's bug army >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Itachi & Minato.
 

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Nah both are unrivalled geniuses and neither one is better than the other in my book
 

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Right..because itachi and obito were hanging out in ramen shops talking about old times?
Itachi didn't even know he had that kamui s/t jutsu

Because unlike with Minato, Obito didn't even try to fight Itachi, or attack Konoha.

He wasn't even around Akatsuki after Itachi joined. Only Zetsu/Nagato knew about him.

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Also the Amaterasu-trap failed because of PNJ.

It was activated and aimed at his Kamui eye.

Yet Sasuke, for some reason, averted his gaze to Obito's shoulder at the last moment.

So since Obito's face wasn't lit on fire and his eyes melted, he whipped out Izanagi and survived.
 

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Because unlike with Minato, Obito didn't even try to fight Itachi, or attack Konoha.

He wasn't even around Akatsuki after Itachi joined. Only Zetsu/Nagato knew about him.

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Also the Amaterasu-trap failed because of PNJ.

It was activated and aimed at his Kamui eye.

Yet Sasuke, for some reason, averted his gaze to Obito's shoulder at the last moment.

So since Obito's face wasn't lit on fire and his eyes melted, he whipped out Izanagi and survived.

Lol'd.
 
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