Minato is a Jinchuriki

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Again, Kinkaku and Ginkaku only possess Kyubi's chakra, they don't have Kyubi's soul. That's like saying that Naruto doesn't have Kyubi because Minato only sealed the yang part in him. Read man. Databook does say he sealed Kyubi in him

Nope, it's only the Chakra not its Soul:

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Chakra

 

[Booker]

Nope, it's only the Chakra not its Soul:

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Chakra

Can Reaper Death Seal only seal chakra away?

No?

Alright, looks like we have our answer.

 

[Bogard]

Nope, it's only the Chakra not its Soul:

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Chakra

He used the Shiki fujin to seal the yin(negative) part of the Kyubi. Of course the negative part of the Kyubi has chakra(i even said in OP that he probably even has more chakra than the yang part). So does the yang part that Naruto possess

 

[DrProof]

This really surprised my Bogard. I respect you as a Minato debater indeed.

 

[Bogard]

This really surprised my Bogard. I respect you as a Minato debater indeed.

Haha thanks =D

 

[RNITBmsage]

he only has the freakin chakra

 

[S A G E]

He is a pseudo Jin, this theory is pure fan fiction.

this isn't even debatable, sigh.......

Can Reaper Death Seal only seal chakra away?


No?


Alright, looks like we have our answer.

RDS sealed Minato as the price of summoning him, with the Kyubi yin chakra inside minato, not the Kyubi soul itself since minato already transferred it inside naruto. Smh

 

[End of Days]

sometimes the chakra sealed manifests itself with a consciousness, minato seals a bit of his chakra in naruto

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tailed beasts are chakra

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so its possible there are now two kyuubi, one inside minato and naruto

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[Dantee]

I disagree Bogard. Minato undoubtedly falls under the psuedo jinchuriki category.

Remember that

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inside himself, Kyubi's size reduced greatly

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And when you look at the above panel, it seems that the remaining Kyubi isn't even half as huge as his former self, so it's safe to assume that Minato infact sealed more than half of Kyubi within himself(which would mean that the yin chakra is actually not only darker but also greater than the yang part)

Here is your first mistake. You're assuming because the Kyuubi is roughly more than half it's size to you that it's safe for an assumption that Minato sealed more than half of the Kyuubi's chakra? Blasphemy considering Minato said it himself he is going to only seal half of it. Who are you to argue with this?

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Kishi does not draw to scale I think we all know this. He doesn't measure every stroke of his pencil for the sake of pleasing theories or future explanations like this. It's also arguable that the Kyuubi is half of it's size in that picture, but it would be a non-legitimate argument all together.

As a comparison lets take Kyubi when

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This is how he looks

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Like you can see, we don't observe a decrease in size at all, only a more squeletic form and it's safe to assume that the FRS he received served to weaken him to this state

This shows that if Minato only took Kyubi's chakra like some people think, Kyubi shouldn't have decrease in size at all. It leads then us to the conclusion that Minato does possess Kyubi inside(the yin and dark part of it). So Minato is a Jinchuriki

Now this part is a bit tricky, but people shouldn't buy into what you said so easily. What Minato did and what Naruto were two different things.

Minato actually sealed off half of the Kyuubi's chakra. That would explain the size decrease because tailed beast are nothing but mass beings of chakra.

What Naruto did was seperate the Kyuubi from it's chakra. Now while it sounds the same this is actually different because the Kyuubi still remains inside Naruto. Theres also two key words the manga use of seal and seperated. The Kyuubi couldn't possibly get smaller from losing it's chakra because it will eventually replenish. If that were the case every time the Kyuubi used bijuu dama it would be considerably smaller, but that is not the case.

Now i'd also like to explain the reason why Minato has KCM. People think it's plot. Well, it's far from being the case. Remember what Sarutobi said

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"The soul sealed together will battle for all eternity"

So the fact that Minato sealed the yin chakra of Kyubi along with him means that they were fighting for all eternity inside the God of Death's belly. The fact that Minato has KCM simply means that Minato won the battle against Kyubi

It would also explain why Kyubi was shocked and surprised after Minato turning into that mode

So like you can see it is not a plot hole. Maybe Kishi will further explain later at some point

Sir Dirp already gave an excellent explanation as to why this is wrong.

And no, Minato did not seal Kurama's "soul" with the Shiki Fuujin, only the Yin part of its chakra, the mechanics are different with regards to Orochimaru's arms, Orochimaru's arms were the arms of a real soul, Kurama's Yin Half is just chakra, that is why the former (Oro's arms) could not be assimilated with Hiruzen's own soul since no two things can occupy the same space at the same time.

Kurama's Yin Chakra is just that, chakra, capable of being assimilated inside a soul. To further cement this, take a look at the difference in effects between Kurama's sealing and Oro's sealing, in Orochimaru's case, the use of ninjutsu requiring hand seals has been completely sealed away from him because the arm part of his soul was truly lost, while in Kurama's case, he is still able to use the techniques of Bijuus like Bijuudama, that is because only his Yin Chakra was missing, the only thing that was limited is the energy output of Kurama's Bijuudama since half of his chakra was taken away but none the less he was still capable of using it.

From this we can clearly see the substantial difference between Orochimaru's and Kurama's sealing with RDS, the former truly lost a part of his soul while the latter merely lost his chakra.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Are you suggesting that Minato was capable of becoming Kurama's Jinchuuriki when he was alive? Jeebus....

And why would he not be?

His chakra levels are huge. He's no Kushina, but let's remember that while performing RDS and being paralyzed by the huge chakra he sealed inside him he was still fast enough to intercept the Kyuubi's claw.

 

[locodude]

I think End of Days has one of the best points here because the tailed beasts ARE charka. The story describes them as living forms of chakra there for it is possible for minato to have it since he took the chakra in a tug-of war way as he was pulling the ninetails charkra/soul or even both. The thing is the gin and kin both were Exposed to it, same for sora. Significantly smaller portions of the charka were obtained, however not by the method in which minato acquired it. It is possible that the pure chakra of the kuybii tht was obtained could be a yin living form of chakra because that is what the tailbeasts are in reality living chakra

 

[3 Days Grace]

The term Is Pseudo Jinchuriki

 

[Bijuu13]

Most logical Minato fanboy ever . That's a compliment lol

 

[locodude]

Lol just exactly who was that meant for?

 

[yondaimeminato]

of course he is, the tail demon beasts are chakra. Minato had to still go through the same process that naruto went through to get naruto-like kbm.

 

[iSpeak]

Nah, Yang represents vitality/life force etc so it would only make sense that the Yang half contains the Kyuubi's soul since the soul is the life force. The whole point about Yin half being greater than Yang half is not right either, they are both the same. Minato said himself he was going to seal half.
The Kyuubi was pure Yang when Naruto was fighting it. Taking chakra from him at that point was in effect sucking life from him, which is why he became skinner. The Kyuubi becoming shorter against Minato was a way of showing that the Kyuubi had lost its Yin chakra.

 

[blackstar9]

minato is not a jinnchuriki ! manga > you minato fanboys

 

[ntel]

So basically Minato butt raped the dark sided Kyubi and gained KCM

 

[TheEvilOne]

He isn't, unless Kurama is schizo...

 

[Minator93]

Nice thread as always bro

I agree completely, I mean there's clear manga evidence that supports Minato being Jinchuriki

1. Kyuubi's size was reduced to a fifth of its total size.
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3. Minato went KCM just like Naruto unlike Kin brothers.

Also there shouldn't be any debate as to why Minato cant become a jinchuriki as an adult because we know that a 15yo Rin was able to become one or the newborn half Namikaze half Uzumaki.

Funny how every member of the Namikaze family became Kyuubi's Jinchuriki Lol