Minato can't break Susanoo

[Bogard]

Note: In this thread i won't talk about featless KCM Minato

I've seen this argument plenty of times, but the question i always ask myself when i see this is "does he needs to?". "Is breaking Susanoo the only way to defeat a Susanoo user?" I don't think it is. For this reason i decided to create this thread to explain why i believe Minato can defeat a Susanoo user without really needing to destroy the Susanoo in question. How? With FTG/Space time barrier

1- FTG advantage

In latest chapters, we have seen Minato capable to redirect the most powerful attack we've seen in the manga so far in the sea by leaving one of his markings near a rock placed on the middle of ocean without even touching it thanks to his S/T barrier and near instantly

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So what if Minato has placed/places one of his kunais near a volcano and warps the Susanoo user(with or without his Susanoo) inside the volcano? It's GG. The Susanoo user would be desintagrated in an instant, and even if by some miracle smh he survives(jk), in the middle of a volcano, he couldn't surely live.

I've already made this argument in one of my threads, but since we've never seen Minato actually do something like this in the manga, the argument was not brought back in debates very often(even by myself):

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Keep also in mind that at that time, i didn't even know some new advantages that FTG can bring that we've seen in latest chapter. You may ask which advantage? I'll talk about it later. But anyway with the latest chapter, it makes it even more likely for Minato to proceed this way since we've actually seen Minato capable to do so in the manga

This is part of the reason why i believe that FTG(and its variations) could be one of the most anti-Susanoo technique in this manga. Other reason?

2- FTG radius

We've seen in this chapter that Minato is even capable to warp different entities(including himself) at different locations without touching them, if they stay on the range of his jutsu(even if you believe he needs to touch them it's irrelevant for my arguments anyway):

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We also know thanks to Gaara that Susanoo is a different entity than the user since the user can be seperated from it

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That's why i think that Minato with his FTG can seperate the Susanoo user from his Susanoo since he has shown the capacity to warp different entities in different locations at the same time.

This is also an argument that i already made before, but there are some people who never wanted to acknowledge the radius behind the technique. You can read this basic thread(not deeply detailed) to understand it:

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In this chapter anyway, once again, Minato talked about

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. So all Minato wanted was for them to be before him. For what reason? To be in range of the jutsu obviously, and curiously it's in a similar way like Genma's squad did with Mei

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So it's more than obvious that FTG has a range, and needs no contact whatsover within that certain range

Reason why i believe that with this FTG ability, he should be capable to warp Susanoo and his user to different locations(or just one of them depending on his intentions)

Before saying that Susanoo could instantly be created once again(for those who believe so), i'll like to point out something. It's been shown in this manga that for the creation of Susanoo, there is a chakra manifestation before

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And when Susanoo is created, it has been shown that the Susanoo user can't create another one. It's for that reason that Madara had no other choice than using Rinnengan's Gakidou ability to warp the attack

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To recreate Susanoo, he needs

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Something that was again proven when Hashirama

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. He couldn't activate it once more at that time

It's because of this that warping the Susanoo user out of his Susanoo will leave him open since at that moment(the time to deactivate the jutsu and reactivate it), he couldn't use Susanoo

What happens after? I'll let you imagine that U_U

 

[Narutohokage7]

Nice thread as usual.

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

nice thread dude. good read. this thread will upset people on the base though lol

 

[NarutoIndra]

I agree, people who believe Minato loses to Susano because he has no way of breaking Susano are fallacious.

 

[Kettei]

Bogard:The Awesome.Nice thread

 

[blazekev90]

summary pleaseeeeeeee =D

 

[Rainbow Dash]

It's a good thread.

But would it effect the Minato's results if his target is actually moving? From feats, the all the large things that Minato has teleported were staying still. The Juubi's bijuudama was slowed down and had 0 velocity when it reached Killer Bee. And Kurama's movements had to be restrained by Gamabunta. So how much would it effect Minato accuracy if his target is moving?

Also, another problem I see is that in order for an alive Minato to teleport entities that have high power levels require extensive prep time as proven when he teleported Kurama. Edo Minato has an advantage with his infinite chakra.

 

[Transcendence]

I agree.

inb4onslaughtofItachifanboys

 

[Biju Mode]

Ive thought bout that before and i agree minatos ftg can be total ownage by warping people into volcanos or off cliffs if theyre fodder an cant fly lol only counter to it would be another s/t jutsu maybe kamui or somthin might save you but i doubt it

 

[Kettei]

It's a good thread.

But would it effect the Minato's results if his target is actually moving? From feats, the all the large things that Minato has teleported were staying still. The Juubi's bijuudama was slowed down and had 0 velocity when it reached Killer Bee. And Kurama's movements had to be restrained by Gamabunta. So how much would it effect Minato accuracy if his target is moving?

Also, another problem I see is that in order for an alive Minato to teleport entities that have high power levels require extensive prep time as proven when he teleported Kurama. Edo Minato has an advantage with his infinite chakra.

The TBB that the Kyubi fired was going at max speed toward Minato.He still warped it.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Shouldnt susanno trespass the barrier for that to work?
Wouldnt itachi see the hand signs and barrier itself thus avoid it?
Wont minato get one shoted b4 he wakes up?

 

[Champ]

Genjutsu, gg Minato.

 

[Cursed Prince]

And the Susanoo user is just gunna let that happen? Also, its also been shown that Susanoo has been created pretty fast, As seen when sasuke fought Danzo

 

[MinatosCarefreeSmile]

Minato can probably use TBB

 

[Cursed Prince]

And you do realize Susanoo isnt moving towards the warping right O_O ?

 

[Rainbow Dash]

The TBB that the Kyubi fired was going at max speed toward Minato.He still warped it.

The Kyuubi's bijuudama was going in a straight line directly towards Minato. All Minato had to do was place the barrier right in front of him. Not much accuracy was not involved in that.

 

[Jarex]

Very nice thread. Susano is no match for FTG. Minato can warp it to any dimension at any time

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Minato can probably use TBB

meaningless
in fact Yata blocks everything

Very nice thread. Susano is no match for FTG. Minato can warp it to any dimension at any time

trolling or fanboying?

 

[OWanime]

I love this thread alot and I think minato has the best chance against a sharingan (dojutsu) user at the moment xd

 

[Bogard]

Nice thread as usual.

Thanks man

nice thread dude. good read. this thread will upset people on the base though lol

Bogard:The Awesome.Nice thread

Thanks guys

summary pleaseeeeeeee =D

Sorry but can't summarize a already summarized thread -_-'

It's a good thread.

But would it effect the Minato's results if his target is actually moving? From feats, the all the large things that Minato has teleported were staying still. The Juubi's bijuudama was slowed down and had 0 velocity when it reached Killer Bee. And Kurama's movements had to be restrained by Gamabunta. So how much would it effect Minato accuracy if his target is moving?

Also, another problem I see is that in order for an alive Minato to teleport entities that have high power levels require extensive prep time as proven when he teleported Kurama. Edo Minato has an advantage with his infinite chakra.

Hiraishin is instant. For someone so fast that he outspeed even the strongest characters like Hashirama or other shunshin users like Tobirama, having time to set up kunais around a large entity like the Juubi, go on a rock far away to place another, come back to redirect Juubi's Bijuudama there with people starring at the Bijuudama all the time, not even noticing a thing, all that before he actually appeared infront of Naruto and Sakura on another, had a chat with them and the Hokages finally came, i think this feat already talks about Minato's enormous and unrivalled speed in this manga. So for someone this fast, it should be easy for him to warp Susanoo or his user wherever he wants either by closing the distance with FTG or using Space time barrier which seems to have a much greater range