Minato can seperate Susanoo from his user confirmed

[Murasame]

@Bogard

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His Susanoo is gone too.. shouldn't we still see it there deactivating? Correct me if I'm wrong though..
I don't think Susanoo deactivates in an instant.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

1.The first one is wrong do to facts.....let me explain why.....

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^Here is a scan before Sasuke was teleported....you can see there is a flare coming from Sasuke Ribcage's Susanoo.

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^Here is a scan after Sasuke was teleported....you can clearly see the same flare(from the Ribcage) was still there there after Sasuke was teleported...this clearly indicates the Susanoo never disappear and that Sasuke teleported with the Susanoo since the flare was still there.

2.Now, this second is also wrong....you have to understand Naruto's Chakra are a part of his body....so, using as an example is completely invalid....the Susanoo not being a part of the user's body.

1. FTG is instant, and when Sasuke resurfaced, susanoo was gone. The only other option would be susanoo is destroyed be the user teleporting. Why? Simple. Sasuke did not have susanoo by the time he reappeared.


2. How's Naruto's chakra arms any more part of his body than susanoo? That's completely baseless.

 

[Draphsin]

Its because naruto's chakra arm was attached to sasuke. Minato cant do this himself to someone with a full susanoo surrounding them.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Its because naruto's chakra arm was attached to sasuke. Minato cant do this himself to someone with a full susanoo surrounding them.

That argument doesn't work. Naruto indeed make the connection to Sasuke, but he made his connection with Minato through a chakra arm. This means pure chakra can be made to make the connection.

 

[Draphsin]

That argument doesn't work. Naruto indeed make the connection to Sasuke, but he made his connection with Minato through a chakra arm. This means pure chakra can be made to make the connection.

Thats not the point, naruto was connecting his chakra to sasuke, not susanoo. Its already confirmed that a susanoo user can separate from susanoo but minato cant possibly reach a susanoo user without getting stopped by susanoo. Even if minato were to teleport the susanoo away it wouldnt go far & it can still be controlled while the user is outside (unless you can give a reason as to why only Itachi can do it).

 

[Bogard]

@Bogard

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His Susanoo is gone too.. shouldn't we still see it there deactivating? Correct me if I'm wrong though..
I don't think Susanoo deactivates in an instant.

No you're right. After re-reading i noticed the Susanoo was gone too, but notice that the ribcage was still activated before teleportation, said teleportation which is instant. So Sasuke had no time to deactivate it or whatever especially since he was in a difficult position(about to get crushed, why would he deactivate it?). The instant after teleportation though, we don't see the ribcage anymore

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On the same pic(bottom), notice he was even still trying to grasp how he got saved, so he was not in the mind to try to deactivate Susanoo or something at that point

So it probably means the effect of teleportation somehow made his susanoo vanish

 

[Naijakid]

It seems you are trying to prove that Minato>Itachi
Good tho

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Thats not the point, naruto was connecting his chakra to sasuke, not susanoo. Its already confirmed that a susanoo user can separate from susanoo but minato cant possibly reach a susanoo user without getting stopped by susanoo. Even if minato were to teleport the susanoo away it wouldnt go far & it can still be controlled while the user is outside (unless you can give a reason as to why only Itachi can do it).

Oh. That's what you mean. Right now, I'd say that FTG somehow destroys susanoo.

 

[Murasame]

No you're right. After re-reading i noticed the Susanoo was gone too, but notice that the ribcage was still activated before teleportation, said teleportation which is instant. So Sasuke had no time to deactivate it or whatever especially since he was in a difficult position(about to get crushed, why would he deactivate it?). The instant after teleportation though, we don't see the ribcage anymore

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On the same pic(bottom), notice he was even still trying to grasp how he got saved, so he was not in the mind to try to deactivate Susanoo or something at that point

So it probably means the effect of teleportation somehow made his susanoo vanish

Oh I see it makes all sense now Thanks for the explanation.. I'll agree with what you say until someone provides a good counter. I'll just be viewing this thread and see what people have to say about it.

 

[Brooks]

1. FTG is instant, and when Sasuke resurfaced, susanoo was gone. The only other option would be susanoo is destroyed be the user teleporting. Why? Simple. Sasuke did not have susanoo by the time he reappeared.

So, because Sasuke didn't have the Susanoo by the time he was teleported means the Susanoo was either destroyed or gone?

No, there also the possibility that Sasuke might have deactivated his ribcage Susanoo when he was telported since he had no need to worry about being in danger.

2.How's Naruto's chakra arms any more part of his body than susanoo? That's completely baseless.

Why are you acting like you don't understand what i'm saying? stop kidding yourself now.

Naruto's Chakra arms are connect to him.....in other words....when you touch him you're already touching his body....whereas Minato can't teleport Susanoo do to him not touching the user's body unlike in Naruto's case of his Chakra arms.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

So, because Sasuke didn't have the Susanoo by the time he was teleported means the Susanoo was either destroyed or gone?

No, there also the possibility that Sasuke might have deactivated his ribcage Susanoo when he was telported since he had no need to worry about being in danger.




Why are you acting like you don't understand what i'm saying? stop kidding yourself now.

Naruto's Chakra arms are connect to him.....in other words....when you touch him you're already touching body....whereas Minato can't teleport Susanoo do to him not touching the user's body unlike in Naruto's case of his Chakra arms.

1. There's no way Sasuke deactivated susanoo mid FTG. Simple as that.

2. A connection is not necessary.

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The TBB wasn't touching Kurama's mouth.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Oh. That's what you mean. Right now, I'd say that FTG somehow destroys susanoo.

i hope your screwing around... cause that makes no sense at all

 

[Honord Sage]

Look very closely It was Naruto Chakra arm that grab Sasuke then Naruto use His other Chakra arm to grab Minato thus completing a connection that the Juubi was nullifying.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

1. There's no way Sasuke deactivated susanoo mid FTG. Simple as that.

2. A connection is not necessary.

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The TBB wasn't touching Kurama's mouth.

But it was still connected. Kurama was using his chakra to hold it there while forming it. Just cause you can't see the connection doesn't mean it's not there.

 

[Brooks]

1. There's no way Sasuke deactivated susanoo mid FTG. Simple as that.

1. I'm sorry, but do you have a prove of that? i didn't think so.....

2. A connection is not necessary.

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The TBB wasn't touching Kurama's mouth.

2.You just destroyed yourself by posting that....you proved that both the Bijuudama and Kurama were teleported when Minato used his FTG on them....just like i was saying how both Sasuke and his Susanoo were teleported.....and both the Bijuudama and Kurama were still connected do to Kurama still being able to hold the Bijuudama with his Chakra.

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[TheSages456]

pure idiocy if i do say so myself.


minato states that he can only warp something if he or his chakra are touching it in some sort of way.

naruto grabs sasukes actual body, therefore creating a connection between minato and sasuke. if naruto grabbed susano and minato warped it, then you would have a point but even then it still wouldnt be much to go off of.

all of this however is disregarding the fact that the ribcage was broken and susano was shown disappearing.

 

[ajpn920]

LOL at the haters bashing this thread. They can't even apply some logic. Let me set this straight.

FACT 1: The moment Obito grab Sasuke and Naruto, Susanoo is still active. It is protecting Sasuke

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At this point of time, do you fanboys think that in order to be save from Obito's attack, Sasuke needed to activate Susanoo or perhaps he needed to make his Susanoo much stronger (if he can) just to survive. Sasuke's eyes were covered by Obito's hand. Obviously Sasuke can't see who is coming to save his ass.

We all know and no one can deny that FTG is instant. Is there any proof that Sasuke knows that they are going to be save via FTG? Now, why would he deactivate Susanoo if it is his only means of protection?

How can anyone of you prove that Sasuke deactivated Susanoo when he himself did not anticipate that Minato will use FTG to save them? Does it make sense? Do you mean he deactivated Susanoo in the middle of FTG which is instant? Is there faster than instant? If he was able to deactivate it in the middle of FTG then he is faster than instant. LOL

FACT 2: The moment FTG was used, we can't see Susanoo any longer

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We can make 2 possibilities out of this:

1. Sasuke deactivated Susanoo.

problem with this speculation:

a. Why would he deactivate it when he's in danger.
b. He did not know that Minato will use FTG to save them.
c. Sasuke is not faster than instant

2. Susanoo vanishes after teleportation.

The manga shows that it did vanish. Assuming that it did vanish because of teleportation is much more logical than the 1st one because the 1st speculation defeats Sasuke's purpose of activating Susanoo. Also, Minato already did this kind of feat when he separated Kurama and the TBB

 

[The ProphecY]

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Nope, that isn't what happened.

Since this scenario is being linked with gaara and co, lets get some facts straight.
Gaara held susano down via the arms with his sand, then ripped madara out. In this case we saw clearly that susano was stationed and it was at the exact location after madara had been ripped out.

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We got the first taste of hiraishin's power but also its limitations.

Here;

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"It won't work unless there's direct contact with myself or my chakra"

What happened in this chapter is that naruto latched onto minato and sasuke and this allowed minato to teleport as there is direct contact with himself and his chakra via naruto's chakra arms or what not.

But my question is this. If minato separated susano from the user, surely it should be a similar situation like gaara's where we see the susano at whatever stage it was in, still being at the location when this occured.

Yet while in gaara's we saw this difference, in this chapter there is no susano at all to state that, he did indeed separate the two.

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Both, Susanoo and the user (sasuke), disappeared. Fact.
There is no susano near obito, if minato did indeed separate the two.


Ill show you something that is even more clear.
If you look at sasuke's susano you would note that, in the upper image it has a flare of susano

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At the bottom page, the whole of susano left along with the user, apart from the little flare outside of susano

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He teleported susano and the user

Very true, but the question remain, how Sasuke's Susanoo disappeared? Possible options are:
1. Sasuke deactivated it. If this is true then the flare outside of Susanoo will vanish as well. Not to mention, it seems Sasuke only got the idea of what happened before they were saved or teleported.
2. RS Obito totally destroyed Sasuke's ribcage Susanoo. This seem to be unlikely as we've seen it still intact or

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3. Minato teleported Sasuke & his ribcage Susanoo but removed the ribcage prior to their landing. I think this is the most logical since we all know that Minato has done it before when he teleported the Kyubi & it's TBB.

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Based from this scan Minato was able to teleport Kurama & it's TBB through the use of Gamabunta. But when reappearing we've seen that the TBB exploded in a different place where Minato & Kurama landed. This is why I believed that Minato was the one who removed Sasuke's Susanoo or how I believe FTG can counter Susanoo. Because Minato can choose what he wants to teleport or seperate the same prior to its landing.

 

[Draphsin]

Oh. That's what you mean. Right now, I'd say that FTG somehow destroys susanoo.

Just wondering why you think so.

 

[MrLukyso]

Actually I don't care. Minato can teleport Itachi and Sasuke all he wants, he still can't do it to Madaras Susanoo or PS.